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I've used HRB for 6 years now. My experience is they quote low, then add fees. Last year came in with quote of $329, walked out paying $687. I have 2 W2s, a small business (Schedule C), and some investments. The fees accumulate quick: - Each "complex" form (Schedules C, E, etc) +$100-150 - Each 1099 +$30-50 - State returns +$100 - Business expenses +$75 - Casualty loss will definitely be +$200 minimum
Do they still try to sell you that "audit protection" add-on? They always made me feel like I was crazy for not wanting it.
Yes, they push the audit protection hard! It was an extra $45 last year. The preparer made it sound like I was practically guaranteed to get audited without it. I've declined it every year and (knock on wood) never been audited. They also try to upsell their "tax pro review" service which is another $89. Isn't that what I'm already paying them for by going to their office instead of using their software?
Has anyone tried doing their own taxes with software for complicated situations like rental properties and casualty losses? I'm wondering if TurboTax or TaxAct could handle this without costing $700+.
I use FreeTaxUSA for my rental properties and small business. It handles Schedule E perfectly and only costs $15 for state filing (federal is free). For casualty losses, they have a pretty good walkthrough. Saved me at least $600 compared to HRB.
Thanks for the suggestion. I've never heard of FreeTaxUSA - do they offer any support if you get stuck or have questions during the process?
Has anyone tried bunching their itemized deductions? I'm thinking about doubling up on charitable donations every other year to get over the standard deduction threshold.
Don't forget to look into health savings accounts if you have a high-deductible health plan! Triple tax advantage - tax-deductible contributions, tax-free growth, and tax-free withdrawals for medical expenses. One of the few true tax freebies out there.
That's a good point! Do you know if I can open an HSA myself as a contractor? My health insurance is a high-deductible plan but it's not through an employer since I'm self-employed.
Absolutely you can! That's actually one of the great things about HSAs - you don't need an employer to open one. As a self-employed person with a qualifying high-deductible health plan (HDHP), you can open an HSA through many banks, investment companies like Fidelity or Vanguard, or specialized HSA providers. Just make sure your health plan qualifies as an HDHP under IRS guidelines. For 2025, that means a minimum deductible of $1,600 for individual coverage or $3,200 for family coverage. The maximum 2025 contribution is $4,150 for individual coverage or $8,300 for family coverage, with an extra $1,000 catch-up contribution if you're 55 or older.
You might want to consider converting your LLC to an S-corporation instead of adding a member. As an S-corp owner, you're required to pay yourself a "reasonable salary" that's subject to payroll taxes, and then you can take additional profits as distributions that aren't subject to self-employment tax. It's a bit more paperwork and you need to file Form 2553 to elect S-corp status, but many small business owners save on taxes this way. Just make sure your salary is reasonable for your industry and role to avoid IRS scrutiny.
I've heard about the S-corp option but wasn't sure if it made sense for a small business like mine. Is there a certain income threshold where it becomes worth the extra hassle and paperwork? And would this help me fix my current situation with the incorrect W2?
S-corps generally start making financial sense once your business profit is around $40,000-$50,000 annually, though this varies by industry. Below that, the savings on self-employment tax often don't outweigh the additional costs (filing separate returns, payroll processing, possibly higher accountant fees). For your current W2 situation, converting to an S-corp now wouldn't retroactively fix the issue. You'd still need to correct the reporting for 2024. However, it would provide a clean path forward for properly paying yourself starting this year. The ideal approach is to fix the past issue separately (either by amending returns or following your accountant's guidance) while setting up the proper structure for the future.
If you're making so little from the business, why even worry about being on payroll? Couldn't you just take owner's draws when needed and report everything on your Schedule C? That's what I do with my LLC and it's way simpler than dealing with payroll.
This is exactly what I do too. I have a real estate LLC and I just take draws when I need money. Pay quarterly estimated taxes and then report everything on Schedule C at tax time. No need for the whole payroll hassle unless you're making serious money.
I only did payroll to get ADP's promotional rate - they had a deal where we got a big discount if we had at least 3 people on payroll. Since I had 2 actual employees, I added myself as the third to save money. I'm fine just taking draws going forward, but now I'm stuck with this incorrect W2 situation for 2024 that I need to fix. Still learning all the LLC tax stuff as I go!
Since no one's mentioned it specifically - for W-2s, you can use the SSA's Business Services Online (BSO) at https://www.ssa.gov/bso/. It's totally free and pretty straightforward! For 940 and 941 forms, check out the IRS e-file providers: https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/e-file-for-business-and-self-employed-taxpayers If you're comfortable with the forms and just need to file them, these government portals will save you that $675 the accountant wanted to charge!
Thanks for the direct links! Have you personally used the SSA's BSO system for late W-2 filings? Was it easy to navigate for someone who isn't super tech-savvy?
Yes, I've used the SSA's BSO system for late W-2 filings twice now. It's definitely designed with the average business owner in mind, not just for tech experts. The interface walks you through each step and clearly labels what information needs to go where. For late filings, there's a specific section where you'll see the original deadline and the system acknowledges you're filing late. It doesn't prevent you from proceeding. Just make sure you have all your business information and employee details ready before you start. You can save your progress and come back if needed, but having everything prepared makes it a much smoother process.
Just a heads up - if you've missed the W-2 filing deadline, you might also want to check if your state has separate W-2 filing requirements! Many states require a separate submission even though the form is the same. Also, for your 940 and 941 forms, try using the IRS's Free File Fillable Forms for businesses. They're not as user-friendly as paid software but they'll get the job done for free.
This is super important! I completely forgot about state W-2 filing and got hit with a $200 penalty from my state last year even though I filed the federal one.
Yuki Tanaka
Just to clarify something important - there's a difference between a qualified employer annuity plan (like a 403b) and actually annuitizing your retirement savings. Many employer "annuity" plans don't automatically provide lifetime income - they're just tax-qualified retirement plans that give you the OPTION to convert to an annuity later, but you don't have to. I think people get confused about this all the time.
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Esmeralda GΓ³mez
β’Wait, so when my work says I have an annuity plan option, I might not actually get guaranteed income for life? That's literally the only reason I was considering it!
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Yuki Tanaka
β’That's exactly right. Many employer "annuity plans" are really just tax-qualified retirement savings vehicles that give you the option to convert to an income annuity when you retire, but don't require you to. When you retire, you typically have several options for what to do with the money - take a lump sum, set up systematic withdrawals, roll it over to an IRA, OR convert it to an income annuity. Unless you specifically choose the annuity option at retirement, you won't automatically get guaranteed lifetime income. I'd suggest asking your HR department for the Summary Plan Description which should clarify exactly what options will be available to you at retirement.
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Klaus Schmidt
My company added a qualified annuity option last year alongside our 401k. I did some research and ended up splitting my contributions - 10% to 401k invested in index funds for growth and 5% to the annuity for guaranteed income later. Best of both worlds! The annuity portion will give me a base of guaranteed income in retirement, and the 401k gives me growth potential and flexibility. Both are tax-deferred.
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Aisha Patel
β’That's exactly what I was thinking of doing! Did you find any downsides to splitting contributions this way?
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LilMama23
β’Can you have both a 401k and qualified annuity at the same company? I thought it was usually one or the other. Do they share the same annual contribution limit?
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