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If your partners are pushing for you to put YOUR name on the W-9, I'd be suspicious tbh. Why aren't they willing to put THEIR names on it? Maybe they have tax liens or back taxes they're trying to avoid? Or maybe they're trying to keep income off their tax returns for some reason? Even if you trust them, this arrangement makes YOU the responsible party for all the taxes. You'd have to track down your partners later to get them to pay their share of the taxes, which could get messy if the friendship/partnership goes south.
That's a fair point I hadn't considered. They mentioned they'd "already issued too many W-9s" this year, but I'm not sure what that really means from a tax perspective. Is there some limit to how many W-9s someone can issue in a year? Or are they trying to keep their reported income under some threshold?
There's no limit to how many W-9s someone can issue - that excuse doesn't make any sense. A W-9 is just a form that collects your tax ID information so someone can properly report payments made to you. What they might be concerned about is total reported income. If they're receiving certain benefits (healthcare subsidies, income-based loan repayments, etc.) or if they're close to a higher tax bracket, they might be trying to keep additional income off their returns. Another possibility is they're collecting unemployment or other benefits that would be reduced if they report more income.
Just wanted to add that if this business arrangement continues, you guys should really consider formalizing your partnership with an actual partnership agreement and getting an EIN. I made the mistake of having an informal partnership years ago and it was a NIGHTMARE come tax time. For now, each partner should issue their own W-9 for their portion of the income. It's cleaner that way and ensures everyone is properly reporting their share.
But how would that work if they're being paid by a single client? Would the client have to cut separate checks to each partner? My band runs into this issue with gigs sometimes.
Quick tip - if you're filing past returns, check if you qualify for free file options for those previous years too. I used FreeTaxUSA for some back returns and it was way cheaper than going to a tax preparer. Just make sure you're selecting the correct tax year when you start your return!
Do they have the 2023 forms available still? And would they calculate if that forwarded refund from 2022 applies correctly? Thanks for this suggestion!
Yes, they definitely still have the 2023 forms available! Tax preparation websites typically keep forms for several years back for exactly this kind of situation. As for the forwarded refund from 2022, you'll need to enter that as a payment already made on your 2023 return. Most tax software has a section specifically for "payments and credits from prior years" or something similar. It should then calculate everything correctly, taking that forwarded amount into account when determining if you're owed a refund or still owe additional tax for 2023.
Cant stress this enough - DO NOT try to combine tax years! I made this mistake after missing a filing year and it created such a mess. Each tax year is completely separate in the IRS system. File your 2023 return now, and then do your 2024 taxes normally next year.
Totally agree! I did the same thing years ago and ended up with notices from the IRS for the next two years trying to straighten everything out. Just do each year separately and clearly mark the tax year on each return.
The IRS is absolutely SWAMPED this year. I've been working as a tax preparer for 15 years and this is one of the worst delay seasons I've seen. A few things to know: 1) Name changes are a major trigger for manual review, especially if the SSA records and previous tax filing names don't match perfectly. 2) Large refunds (you mentioned it's substantial) also tend to get additional scrutiny. 3) The "Where's My Refund" tool is notoriously unreliable for complicated situations. It often shows just "received" right up until the day they issue the refund. My professional advice: document every call you make (date, time, agent ID if possible, what they told you). Also, contact your congressional representative's office - they have dedicated staff who can initiate a congressional inquiry with the IRS, which often speeds things up.
Is there any downside to contacting your congressional rep? Like could it trigger an audit or flag your account in some way?
There's absolutely no downside to contacting your congressional representative. It won't trigger an audit or flag your account negatively in any way. Congressional inquiries are a normal process, and IRS has dedicated staff just to handle these inquiries. In fact, it often has the opposite effect - it tends to get your return prioritized because the IRS has mandated response times for congressional inquiries. Many taxpayers don't realize this resource is available, but congressional offices help constituents with federal agency issues all the time. It's literally part of their job, and they're often much more effective than you trying to navigate the system alone.
Has anyone tried using the Taxpayer Advocate Service? My refund was delayed for similar reasons last year and I heard they can help with hardship situations.
This might be a weird question, but does anyone know how to actually calculate the right withholding amount? Like is there a formula? My accountant just says "claim 0 if you want a refund, claim more if you don't" but that seems super simplistic.
It's actually pretty complicated. The 2020 W4 form eliminated allowances entirely. Now it's about additional income, tax credits, and extra withholding. The IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website that walks through your full tax situation and calculates the right W4 settings. I'd start there - it's much better than the "claim 0" oversimplification.
Just want to point out that your tax RETURN is the form you file. Your tax REFUND is the money you get back. Sorry to be that person, but the terminology confusion makes tax discussions so much harder!
Harmony Love
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure your S-corp election (Form 2553) was properly filed and accepted. If the IRS didn't process your S-corp election correctly, you could technically still be taxed as a C-corp or disregarded entity, which would completely change how distributions are treated. I learned this the hard way after thinking I was an S-corp for 2 years but then finding out my accountant never confirmed the election was accepted. Had to go back and fix everything. The IRS should send a confirmation letter - if you don't have that, double-check your status before making any distribution plans.
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Lydia Santiago
ā¢That's a really good point I hadn't considered. I do have the confirmation letter from the IRS acknowledging my S-corp election, so I should be good on that front. But it's definitely something important to verify. Do you know if there's any specific form I should use to document the distributions to myself when I file my taxes? Or does it just flow through automatically on the K-1?
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Harmony Love
ā¢Good to hear you have your confirmation letter! For documenting distributions, they'll show up on your Schedule K-1 (Form 1120-S) in Box 16, Code D. There's no separate form you need to file specifically for the distributions. The K-1 will flow to your personal tax return. Just make sure you maintain good corporate records with minutes documenting the distribution approval. Also keep a running basis worksheet so you can track your basis from year to year - this becomes really important if you ever put additional money into the business or take distributions larger than a single year's profit.
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Rudy Cenizo
Quick note on reasonable salary since that's often related to this question - the IRS doesn't have a specific formula for what counts as "reasonable" but your $102k sounds pretty solid assuming it's comparable to what others in your industry/position would make. I've seen the rule of thumb that distributions shouldn't exceed salary, but that's not an actual IRS rule.
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Natalie Khan
ā¢Yep and industry matters a lot! For example, if you're in a service business where YOU are the primary value (consultant, lawyer, doctor), you generally need a higher salary percentage compared to someone in a capital-intensive business. I've seen the IRS successfully challenge cases where professionals tried to take 30% as salary and 70% as distributions.
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