Requirements for 168 Bonus Depreciation on Vehicles - Does GVWR and Bed Size Matter?
I'm hoping someone here can clarify something quickly about Section 168 bonus depreciation for vehicles. My CPA has advised that we can take advantage of the 80% bonus depreciation under Section 168 for a new vehicle purchase this year, and mentioned we need a GVWR of at least 6,000 lbs. Here's where I'm confused - I know that for Section 179 deductions, to get the full 100% writeoff on a pickup truck, it needs both: 1. GVWR of 6,000+ lbs 2. A bed length of at least 6 feet If the bed is under 6 feet, I believe it falls under the $28,900 SUV deduction limitation instead. My question is: Does this same 6-foot bed requirement apply for the Section 168 bonus depreciation? We're planning to buy a truck tomorrow and would prefer a smaller one if possible, but want to maximize the depreciation benefit. Our CPA is away for the Thanksgiving holiday so I can't ask her directly. Any insights would be super helpful as we're heading to the dealership tomorrow!
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Nia Wilson
The bed length requirement only applies to Section 179 deductions, not to bonus depreciation under Section 168. For bonus depreciation, you just need to meet the 6,000+ lbs GVWR requirement to get the 80% bonus depreciation on the full purchase price. The 6-foot bed rule is specifically part of the "work vehicle" definition that applies to Section 179. Section 168 bonus depreciation doesn't have this same restriction - it's broader in that sense. You'll still need to use the vehicle primarily for business purposes though. Just make sure you have documentation showing the GVWR is over 6,000 lbs, as this is the primary qualification for the heavier vehicle exception that allows the full bonus depreciation.
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Luca Russo
•Thank you for clarifying! So if I understand correctly, for Section 168 bonus depreciation, I just need the GVWR over 6,000 lbs, but there's no bed length requirement. Does that mean I could even choose an SUV instead of a pickup as long as it meets the weight requirement? Also, do you know if there are any other requirements I should be aware of for Section 168 that might be different from Section 179?
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Nia Wilson
•That's correct - for Section 168 bonus depreciation, you only need the vehicle to exceed 6,000 lbs GVWR. You could absolutely choose an SUV instead of a pickup, as long as it meets that weight threshold. Many luxury SUVs and larger crossovers qualify. For other requirements, remember that bonus depreciation applies to new or used property, while Section 179 has some limitations on used property. Also, make sure you're using the vehicle more than 50% for business purposes - you'll need to track your business vs. personal use and may have to recapture some depreciation if business use drops below 50% in future years.
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Mateo Sanchez
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Aisha Mahmood
•How accurate is it really? I've had tax software give me wrong information before and I ended up paying penalties. Does it actually know the difference between all these vehicle classifications and GVWR requirements?
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Ethan Clark
•I'm wondering if this would work for my situation too. I bought a heavy SUV last year but my accountant wasn't sure about claiming bonus depreciation. Does the system check if you're using it for business enough or is it just about the vehicle specs?
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Mateo Sanchez
•It's actually surprisingly accurate. I was skeptical at first too, but they use actual tax code references for every determination they make. They specifically addressed the GVWR requirements and explained why the bed length only matters for Section 179 but not for bonus depreciation. I double-checked their info with my accountant who confirmed it was all correct. For business use questions, the system asks for your estimated business use percentage and explains the requirements for the >50% business use test. It also warns you about recapture rules if your business use percentage drops in future years. It's pretty comprehensive.
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Ethan Clark
I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and it was super helpful! I uploaded my SUV purchase documents and it immediately identified that my vehicle qualified for bonus depreciation under Section 168 because it had a GVWR of 6,800 lbs. The analysis clearly explained why I didn't need to worry about the bed length requirement that applies to Section 179. The service also created a PDF with all the relevant tax code citations that I could give to my accountant. My tax guy was impressed with how thorough it was and agreed with the assessment. Saved me a ton of stress wondering if I was filing correctly!
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AstroAce
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Yuki Kobayashi
•How does that even work? I thought the IRS phone lines were completely jammed. I've tried calling them like 5 times about a different issue and always get the "too many calls" message.
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Carmen Vega
•Sounds too good to be true. The IRS literally hangs up on people because they're too busy. How could some service possibly get through when nobody else can? And even if you do get through, do the agents even know about these specific vehicle depreciation rules?
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AstroAce
•The service uses some kind of technology that navigates the IRS phone system and waits on hold for you. It works because they're essentially queuing up in line on your behalf, and they only call you once they've actually reached a human. Yes, the IRS agents I spoke with were knowledgeable about vehicle depreciation questions. You need to ask for the business tax department, not just any random agent. They deal with these Section 168 and Section 179 questions regularly and could clearly explain the GVWR requirements for bonus depreciation versus the additional requirements for Section 179.
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Carmen Vega
I was super skeptical about Claimyr but gave it a shot after getting nowhere with the IRS for weeks. Surprisingly, it actually worked! Got connected to a business tax specialist who confirmed that for Section 168 bonus depreciation, only the 6,000 lb GVWR test applies - no bed length requirement. The agent explained that the confusion happens because people mix up the Section 179 requirements (which has the bed length rule) with bonus depreciation requirements. Saved me from buying a bigger truck than I needed. Worth every penny just for the time saved and getting an authoritative answer directly from the IRS.
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Andre Rousseau
Keep in mind that the 80% bonus depreciation rate is only for 2023. It drops to 60% for 2024, 40% for 2025, and 20% for 2026 before disappearing completely in 2027 (unless Congress extends it again). So if you're on the fence about making this purchase, the tax benefit is better this year than it will be next year. I accelerated my vehicle purchase to take advantage of the higher percentage.
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Zoe Stavros
•Is that reduction schedule still accurate after all the recent tax changes? I thought I heard something about them possibly extending the 80% rate.
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Andre Rousseau
•Yes, the reduction schedule is still accurate as of now. There have been proposals to extend the higher rates, but nothing has been passed into law yet. The current law has it stepping down each year as I mentioned. If you're making business decisions based on tax benefits, it's always best to work with what's currently in the tax code rather than what might change. Congress could always extend it later, but there's no guarantee they will.
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Jamal Harris
Just to add my experience - I bought a midsize SUV (GVWR 6,200 lbs) last year and was able to take the 100% bonus depreciation (it was 2022). My tax guy confirmed I didn't need the 6-foot bed since that's only for Section 179. Don't forget you'll still need to maintain a mileage log to prove business use percentage! The IRS is pretty strict about that part during audits. I use an app to track all my business trips which makes it much easier.
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GalaxyGlider
•What app do you use for tracking mileage? I'm terrible at keeping records and nearly got in trouble during my last audit.
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Zoe Wang
Great question about the GVWR requirements! I went through this exact same confusion last year when purchasing a business vehicle. The key difference is that Section 168 bonus depreciation only requires the 6,000+ lb GVWR - there's no bed length requirement like there is for Section 179. This means you can absolutely go with a smaller truck or even an SUV as long as it meets the weight threshold. Many mid-size trucks and SUVs qualify, which gives you more flexibility in your choice. One thing to double-check at the dealership is to get the exact GVWR from the manufacturer's specifications or the door placard - sometimes the curb weight and GVWR can be confused. Make sure you're looking at the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating, not just the vehicle's actual weight. Good luck with your purchase tomorrow! The 80% bonus depreciation for 2023 is a solid tax benefit to take advantage of while it's still at this level.
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Evan Kalinowski
•Thanks for the clear explanation! I'm new to business vehicle purchases and this whole depreciation thing is pretty confusing. When you mention checking the door placard for GVWR, where exactly should I look? Is it on the driver's side door frame? Also, I'm curious - if I buy a vehicle that's right at the 6,000 lb threshold, like exactly 6,000 lbs GVWR, does that still qualify or does it need to be over 6,000? Want to make sure I don't miss out on a technicality!
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