Is Section 179 deduction based on GVW or GVWR for business vehicles?
Hey everyone, I'm currently in the market for some vehicles for my landscaping business, and I'm totally confused about this Section 179 tax deduction. I know there's the 6000lb weight requirement, but I can't figure out if this is referring to the GVW (actual weight of vehicle as it sits) or the GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating including cargo, passengers, etc.). I've been eyeing a few mid-size trucks, particularly the Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro which has a GVWR right at 6001lbs according to the dealer, but the actual weight without anything in it is definitely under 6000lbs. Does anyone know which measurement the IRS is looking at when determining Section 179 eligibility? This makes a huge difference in what I purchase since I need to maximize my tax deductions this year. Thanks for any help you can provide!
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Sara Hellquiem
The IRS is specifically referring to the GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) when determining Section 179 eligibility, not the actual weight (GVW) of the vehicle. This is clearly stated in IRS publications on Section 179 property. For trucks and SUVs to qualify for the full Section 179 deduction, they must have a GVWR above 6,000 pounds. The GVWR is determined by the manufacturer and represents the maximum operating weight of a vehicle including the base vehicle, accessories, driver, passengers, and cargo. You'll find this information on a sticker typically located on the driver's side door jamb. If your Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro truly has a GVWR of 6,001 pounds (I'd verify this with official documentation), then it would qualify. Just make sure you're getting this information from the manufacturer's specifications and not just the dealer's word.
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Charlee Coleman
•Thanks for clarifying, but I'm still a bit confused. If I buy a truck with a 6,100 GVWR but then make modifications that bring the actual weight over 6,000 lbs (like adding a heavy aftermarket bumper), does that affect anything? Also, does the vehicle need to be brand new or can it be used?
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Sara Hellquiem
•Modifications you make to the vehicle don't impact the GVWR - that's a manufacturer-specified rating that doesn't change regardless of aftermarket modifications you might add. The GVWR is about what the vehicle is rated to safely handle, not how much it actually weighs after modifications. Regarding new vs. used vehicles, Section 179 applies to both new and used business vehicles, as long as the used vehicle is "new to you" (meaning you haven't used it previously). This changed with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, making used equipment eligible for Section 179 as long as you're purchasing it from an unrelated party.
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Liv Park
I was in the exact same situation last year when buying a truck for my construction business. I ended up using https://taxr.ai which was incredibly helpful for sorting out Section 179 deductions. I uploaded my vehicle specs and potential purchase documents, and they analyzed everything and confirmed that GVWR is definitely what matters, not the actual weight. The tool highlighted that I needed to use the vehicle more than 50% for business purposes to claim the deduction, which I hadn't realized was so important. It also helped me calculate exactly how much of a deduction I could take based on my business use percentage. Made a huge difference in my final vehicle selection.
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Leeann Blackstein
•That sounds super helpful. Did it give you any insight on the $27,200 limitation for SUVs? I'm looking at a Jeep Grand Cherokee L with GVWR just over 6,000lbs but heard there's some limitation on the deduction amount even if it qualifies?
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Ryder Greene
•How accurate was it? I've been burned by tax tools before that gave me general advice but missed some important details for my specific situation. Did it actually look at the specific vehicle models you were considering?
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Liv Park
•The tool absolutely covered the SUV limitation. It specifically flagged that SUVs between 6,000-14,000 GVWR are subject to the $27,200 limitation (for 2023 tax year, might be slightly different for 2024). This limitation applies to vehicles considered SUVs, including many larger crossovers and some trucks with certain cab configurations. Regarding accuracy, it was much more detailed than other tax tools I've used. It didn't just give general advice - it analyzed my specific vehicle models and business situation. It even flagged potential audit triggers related to vehicle deductions and provided documentation recommendations for each vehicle I was considering. The advice was specific enough that I changed my purchase decision based on their analysis.
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Ryder Greene
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Carmella Fromis
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Theodore Nelson
•How does this actually work? Seems sketchy that some service could get you through to the IRS faster than calling directly. Doesn't everyone have to wait in the same queue?
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AaliyahAli
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Carmella Fromis
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AaliyahAli
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Ellie Simpson
Just to add some practical advice from my experience as a small business owner: Make sure you're keeping VERY detailed records of your business use for any vehicle you're claiming Section 179 on. The IRS looks closely at vehicle deductions. I recommend keeping a mileage log (there are good apps for this) and documentation of business activities conducted using the vehicle. This is especially important if you're using the vehicle for both business and personal purposes, as you'll need to calculate the percentage of business use. Also, if you're on the border with the 6,000 lb GVWR requirement, it might be worth looking for a slightly heavier vehicle just to be safe. My accountant advised me to avoid vehicles that are exactly at 6,000 since there's no wiggle room if the IRS questions it.
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Arjun Kurti
•Do you know if there's any specific app that the IRS prefers for tracking mileage? I've been using MileIQ but wondering if there's something better that would hold up better in case of an audit.
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Ellie Simpson
•The IRS doesn't endorse any specific mileage tracking app. What matters is that whatever method you use records all the required information: date of travel, starting and ending points, business purpose, and mileage. MileIQ does a good job with this, but so do other apps like Everlance, TripLog, or Hurdlr. What makes a tracking method hold up in an audit is consistency and completeness. The IRS wants to see that you're tracking all trips (not just randomly logging some), recording them contemporaneously (not backfilling months later), and including all required information for each entry. Manual logs work too if you're diligent, but apps make it much easier to be consistent.
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Raúl Mora
Just to throw a wrench in things - has anyone looked into the electric vehicle tax credits instead of Section 179? I was originally going for a heavy SUV for the Section 179 deduction but ended up with an EV truck because the tax credit structure was more beneficial for my situation. With some commercial EVs, you can get up to $7,500 tax credit as a business AND still take depreciation. Haven't seen this mentioned yet but might be worth considering alongside the GVWR discussion.
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Oscar O'Neil
•I actually did look at EVs initially, but the charging infrastructure in my rural area isn't great yet for the kind of driving my landscaping business requires. But you make a good point - there are multiple tax incentives to consider beyond just Section 179. Did you find that the EV credits had fewer restrictions than Section 179 deductions?
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