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Lucas Parker

Questions About IRS Payment Plan Setup Before Filing Taxes

I've been helping my grandparents with their tax situation and I'm a bit confused about the order of operations here. They can't afford to pay their tax bill in full this year, so I went ahead and set up a monthly installment plan for them directly through the IRS website. I completed all the verification steps and got them enrolled in the payment plan where they can make monthly payments on a specific date. The problem is that I haven't actually filed their tax return yet. I've completed everything in FreeTaxUSA but I'm at the final payment screen. I expected there would be an option to set up a payment plan right in the tax software, but it only gives options to pay in full. I had assumed the software would have a direct link to the IRS payment plan section, but it doesn't. What I'm worried about is whether there will be any issues since I set up the payment plan BEFORE officially submitting their tax return. Did I do this in the wrong order? Also, if their financial situation improves, can they pay off the tax debt earlier than the installment schedule we set up? The IRS site let me choose both the monthly amount and which day of the month the payment would be automatically withdrawn from their checking account. I'm really anxious about having messed something up. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Donna Cline

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You don't need to worry too much about the order of operations here. The IRS payment plan you set up is connected to your grandparents' tax account, not specifically to their 2024 return. When you file their return through FreeTaxUSA, it will essentially "confirm" the amount owed that you established in the payment plan. Just make sure you complete the filing process soon. The payment plan you set up is based on the amount you estimated they owe, but the official filing will confirm the exact amount. If there's a discrepancy, you may need to adjust the payment plan later. Regarding paying off the balance early - absolutely! The IRS is always happy to receive money sooner rather than later. The payment plan is the minimum required, but your grandparents can make additional payments at any time without penalty. They can either make extra payments through the IRS Direct Pay system or just pay it off in a lump sum if their situation improves. The most important thing is to actually file the return ASAP. Don't leave that part hanging, as failure-to-file penalties are much steeper than failure-to-pay penalties.

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Lucas Parker

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Thanks for the quick response! That's a huge relief. I'll make sure to file their return right away then. I was worried that there might be some kind of system conflict if the payment plan was created before the official filing. Do I need to mention anywhere in the filing process that we've already set up a payment plan? Or will the systems just link up automatically once I submit?

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Donna Cline

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You don't need to mention the payment plan anywhere during the filing process. The systems will link up automatically based on your grandparents' Social Security numbers and tax ID information. The IRS computers will recognize that the newly filed return belongs to the same taxpayers who already have a payment plan. Just complete the filing as normal. At the payment screen in FreeTaxUSA, you can select that you'll pay separately (not through the software). This won't affect the payment plan you already established. The IRS will simply apply the installment agreement to the final amount determined by the official filing.

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How does this service actually work? Do they just give advice or do they help with the actual payment plan setup? I'm in a similar situation but with my own taxes, not helping family members.

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Dylan Fisher

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Gianna Scott

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Wait, how does this actually work? I've been trying to reach the IRS for 3 weeks about my payment plan. Are you saying there's a way to not sit on hold forever?

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Alfredo Lugo

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Sydney Torres

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure your grandparents' bank account info is entered correctly in the payment plan. I had a situation where I transposed two digits in my account number, and it caused a "payment not honored" scenario which triggered penalties and a payment plan default. Double-check all those details before finalizing the filing! Also, remember that there's usually a setup fee for payment plans unless you're setting up a direct debit agreement. The fee is lower if you set everything up online vs. by phone or mail. I think it's around $31 for online setup with direct debit last time I checked.

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Lucas Parker

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Thanks for the heads up! I did double-check the bank details, but I'll verify them one more time. And yes, there was a fee that was added to the total balance. I opted for the direct debit option to keep things simple for my grandparents - they won't have to remember to make the payment each month.

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Sydney Torres

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Sounds like you've got it covered then! The direct debit option is definitely the way to go - not only is the setup fee lower, but it also ensures they won't accidentally miss a payment. One last tip: if your grandparents ever need to change the bank account information for the direct debits, do it at least 7-10 business days before the next scheduled payment to make sure it processes correctly.

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Just an FYI - when you file through FreeTaxUSA or any other tax software, on the payment screen you can just select "I'll mail a check" or similar option. Then just don't mail a check. Your installment plan will take over and handle the payments. I do this every year since I'm always on a payment plan. The key is making sure that you've entered the EXACT same information on both systems. Same name spelling, same address format, etc. That helps the IRS computer systems match everything up correctly.

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Caleb Bell

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This is actually bad advice. You should select a payment option that indicates you're not paying with the return, but don't select "mail a check" if you're not going to mail one. There are specific options for "I'll pay directly to the IRS" or similar that are more appropriate and won't potentially flag your account for a missed check payment.

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