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Should I file my tax return before or after setting up an IRS payment plan?

Title: Should I file my tax return before or after setting up an IRS payment plan? 1 I just finished preparing my taxes using Tax Act and nearly had a heart attack when I saw I owe over $10,500! I closed the program without filing because I definitely don't have that kind of money right now. I know I'll need to set up a payment plan with the IRS, but I'm confused about the process. Should I go ahead and file my return first and then apply for the payment plan afterward? Or should I apply for the payment plan first based on what Tax Act is showing I owe? I feel like this is probably obvious, but I'm freaking out a bit and want to make sure I do things in the right order. Thanks for any help!

9 The correct order is to file your tax return first, then set up your payment plan. Here's why this makes sense: The IRS needs to process your official tax return before they can establish a payment plan based on the actual amount you owe. When you file, your tax liability becomes "assessed" in their system, which is necessary before a formal payment arrangement can be created. Think of it this way - they need to officially know what you owe before they can help you pay it. You should file your return by the deadline (April 15, 2025) even if you can't pay the full amount. This helps you avoid the failure-to-file penalty, which is much steeper than the failure-to-pay penalty. After filing, you can immediately apply for a payment plan online through the IRS website, by phone, or by submitting Form 9465. Don't worry - this situation happens to many people and the IRS has well-established procedures to help taxpayers who need time to pay.

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15 If I file now but can't pay right away, will I start accumulating penalties and interest immediately? Or do those only kick in after the April deadline? I'm in a similar situation and trying to figure out the timing.

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9 Interest and penalties generally begin accruing from the due date of the return (April 15, 2025), regardless of when you file. Interest compounds daily on the unpaid tax amount, and the failure-to-pay penalty is typically 0.5% per month on the unpaid balance. Setting up a payment plan doesn't eliminate interest, but it does reduce the failure-to-pay penalty to 0.25% per month. That's why it's best to file on time and set up the payment plan as quickly as possible - it minimizes the penalties while giving you a structured way to resolve the debt.

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12 I went through this exact same panic last year! Found myself owing $9k and nearly passed out. I tried calling the IRS for days but couldn't get through to ask about payment plans. Then I found this AI tool called taxr.ai that was super helpful for my situation. The site (https://taxr.ai) has this feature where you can upload your tax documents and it explains everything in plain English - including options for when you can't pay. I ended up getting clarity on exactly what to do: file first, then set up the payment plan right after. What was especially helpful was understanding what payment plan options I qualified for based on my specific situation. Ended up going with a 72-month plan that kept my monthly payments manageable.

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6 How long did it take for the analysis? I'm under a time crunch here and wondering if this is something that takes days or if I can get answers quickly.

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17 Did it help you reduce what you owed at all? I'm looking at my options and wondering if there are deductions or credits I missed that could bring down my total before I set up a payment plan.

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12 The analysis was surprisingly quick - took about 10 minutes from upload to getting my detailed explanation. It's all automated so there's no waiting around for someone to review your docs. Regarding reducing what I owed - it actually did help with that too! The tool flagged a home office deduction I qualified for but had missed. I ended up amending my return before setting up the payment plan and saved about $1,200. The system checks for common oversights like missed deductions, credits, or situations where you might qualify for penalty abatement.

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17 Just wanted to update - I took the advice about taxr.ai and gave it a try. Super glad I did because I was totally stressing about my tax situation. The analysis showed that I actually missed a few deductions related to some freelance work I did last year. I amended my return before setting up my payment plan and ended up reducing what I owed by about $1,800! The guidance also walked me through exactly how to set up my payment plan after filing - there are different options depending on how much you owe and what timeframe you need. I feel way more confident now about handling this. Don't panic like I did - there are solutions!

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4 After trying everything to get through to the IRS about my payment plan last year, I finally found Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and it literally saved me hours of frustration. It's this service that gets you connected to an actual IRS agent without the endless hold times. They have a demo video here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c showing how it works. I was skeptical at first, but after waiting on hold for 3+ hours myself with no luck, I gave it a shot. They got me through to an actual IRS rep in about 15 minutes. The agent helped me set up a payment plan after I'd already filed my return. They walked me through my options based on my specific situation and helped me choose the plan with the lowest monthly payment I could qualify for.

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20 Wait, how does this actually work? Do they have some special access to the IRS or something? I've been calling for days and can't get through.

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11 Sounds like BS honestly. Nobody can magically get through the IRS phone lines. They're probably just charging people for something you can do yourself if you call at the right time of day.

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4 It works by navigating the IRS phone system and waiting on hold for you. When an agent finally picks up, you get a call connecting you directly to them. They don't have special access - they just handle the waiting part for you. It's definitely real - I was super skeptical too. I wasted almost an entire day trying to call myself, checking different times and everything. With Claimyr, I just went about my day and got a call when an agent was on the line. Saved me from having to sit there listening to that awful hold music for hours.

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11 I have to admit I was totally wrong about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I was still desperate to get through to the IRS about my payment plan, so I decided to try it anyway. I figured it couldn't be worse than what I was already doing. It actually worked exactly as described! I got a call back with an IRS agent on the line about 40 minutes after I signed up. The agent helped me set up a payment plan that worked with my budget. I was shocked because I'd literally spent hours over several days trying to reach someone. For anyone in a similar situation - file your return first, then get help setting up the payment plan. And save yourself the headache of waiting on hold.

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3 Don't forget there are different types of payment plans based on how much you owe: If you owe less than $50,000, you can set up an online payment agreement pretty easily through the IRS website. For amounts over that, you'll need to fill out more paperwork. There's also a short-term payment plan (180 days or less) which has no setup fee, or a long-term plan with monthly payments that does have a setup fee. The setup fee is cheaper if you agree to direct debit payments.

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22 What about if you can't afford the monthly payments they want? My friend got hit with a huge tax bill and the minimum monthly payment was still too high for him.

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3 If the standard monthly payment is too high, you can request a lower payment amount based on your financial situation. The IRS offers something called an "Offer in Compromise" for extreme cases where you truly cannot pay the full amount, or they can set up a plan based on what you can reasonably afford after necessary living expenses. Your friend should complete Form 433-F (Collection Information Statement) which details income, expenses, and assets. Based on this, the IRS may agree to lower monthly payments. In some cases, they might even temporarily classify the account as "Currently Not Collectible" if there's genuine financial hardship.

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8 One thing nobody's mentioned - make sure you check your state tax obligations too! I made the mistake of focusing only on my federal tax debt and completely forgot I also owed state taxes. Had to set up two separate payment plans.

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14 Good point! State tax agencies are actually sometimes harder to deal with than the IRS in my experience. My state wanted a higher monthly payment and shorter term than the feds did.

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