No federal taxes on my paychecks - does social security and Medicare count as federal withholding or is this a separate line item?
So I've been looking at my paychecks recently and noticed something weird. I don't see any federal taxes being withheld at all. There's social security and Medicare deductions, but nothing specifically labeled as "federal taxes" or "federal withholding". I'm trying to use the tax refund estimator on TurboTax right now and it's asking for my federal withholdings amount. I'm completely confused about what to put here. Do social security and Medicare contributions count toward this federal withholding number, or should federal taxes be showing up as a completely separate line item on my paystub? My situation is that I support my boyfriend who stays home with our two children. On my W4, I filled out the section where you multiply dependents under 17 by $2,000 and ones above 17 by $500. I claimed $5,500 in total to have some buffer for my situation. But now I'm worried my withholding is messed up completely if there's no federal tax being taken out. If anyone could help me figure out if I'm missing something or if I need to update my W4 immediately, I'd really appreciate it!
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Connor Gallagher
The short answer is no - Social Security and Medicare taxes (often called FICA taxes) are completely separate from federal income tax withholding. They should appear as separate line items on your pay stub. Federal income tax withholding is based on your W-4 information and should definitely be listed separately from FICA taxes. If you don't see any federal income tax being withheld, that's a problem that needs immediate attention. Your employer might be using incorrect withholding information, or there might be an issue with how your W-4 was processed. Take a closer look at your pay stub - sometimes federal withholding might be labeled as "FIT" (Federal Income Tax), "Fed W/H," or something similar. If it's truly not there, I'd recommend speaking with your payroll department right away.
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Yara Sayegh
•What if I'm exempt from federal withholding because my income is too low? Would I still see a federal withholding line on my pay stub but with $0, or would the line not appear at all?
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Connor Gallagher
•If you're exempt from federal withholding due to low income, you would typically still see the line item on your pay stub, but it would show $0 or be blank. The line itself usually still appears on the pay stub format. If you claimed exempt status on your W-4, that would explain why no federal income tax is being withheld. However, claiming exempt is only appropriate if you had no tax liability last year AND expect none this year. With two dependents under 17, you might qualify for refundable credits like the Child Tax Credit, which could actually give you money back even with no withholding.
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Keisha Johnson
After struggling with a similar withholding issue last year, I stumbled across taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it was a complete lifesaver! I uploaded a picture of my paystub and it immediately identified that my federal withholding was missing while my FICA taxes were correct. The tool actually explained that these are completely different taxes - FICA funds Social Security and Medicare specifically, while federal withholding is for your income tax obligation. Their system also analyzed my W-4 settings and showed me exactly where the error was. In my case, I had accidentally checked the wrong box that made me exempt from withholding. Might be worth checking your W-4 settings through their analyzer to see what's happening with yours.
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Paolo Longo
•How accurate is this tool? I'm having a similar issue but with state withholding instead of federal. Would it catch that too or is it just for federal taxes?
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CosmicCowboy
•I'm suspicious of any service like this. How do they access your W-4 information if that's between you and your employer? Sounds like they're just telling you general information anyone could figure out.
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Keisha Johnson
•For state withholding issues, yes it actually handles those too. The tool analyzes your complete pay stub including all state withholdings, local taxes, and other deductions. I was surprised at how comprehensive it was - it even flagged that my state disability insurance deduction seemed off compared to the standard rates. Regarding accessing W-4 information, they don't directly access your W-4 from your employer. You can upload your completed W-4 form if you have a copy, or the system can reverse-engineer your likely W-4 settings based on your pay stub details. In my case, I uploaded both my pay stub and my W-4 copy, and it spotted the discrepancy between what should be happening and what was actually showing on my check.
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Paolo Longo
Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai from the suggestion above. I was seriously confused about my withholdings but didn't want to look stupid asking HR. I uploaded my last paystub and the system immediately pointed out that I was missing federal withholding entirely despite having FICA taxes properly withheld. Turns out I had accidentally checked the "Exempt" box on my W-4 when I started this job six months ago! No wonder I wasn't seeing any federal tax withholding. The tool gave me step-by-step instructions for filling out a new W-4, which I submitted to HR yesterday. They were actually really nice about fixing it right away. Now I'm a bit worried about owing a bunch at tax time, but at least it's fixed going forward.
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Amina Diallo
If you're having trouble getting answers about your withholding situation, I'd recommend calling the IRS directly. I know, I know - everyone says it's impossible to get through, but I used this service called Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and got connected to an actual IRS agent in under 20 minutes! You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was in a similar situation where my withholding seemed off, and I needed official clarification. The IRS agent I spoke with explained exactly how federal withholding is separate from FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) and helped me understand how my W-4 settings were affecting my withholding. They even sent me forms to correct the issue.
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Oliver Schulz
•Wait, does this actually work? I thought getting through to the IRS was basically impossible unless you call at like 7am and wait for 3 hours.
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CosmicCowboy
•This sounds like a scam. Why would I pay a third party when I can just call the IRS directly? And how do they get you through faster than anyone else? Makes no sense.
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Amina Diallo
•Yes, it absolutely works! The normal IRS wait times can be ridiculous - I tried calling on my own multiple times and kept getting the "due to high call volume" message before being disconnected. With Claimyr, they use technology that continuously redials and navigates the IRS phone tree until they secure a place in line, then they call you when they've reached an agent. I'm not saying you can't eventually get through on your own, but if your time is valuable, it's worth considering. I spent literally days trying to get through before using their service. As for being a scam, they don't actually handle any of your tax information - they just connect you directly with the IRS. You're still speaking directly with an official IRS representative, not with Claimyr. Think of it like having someone wait in line for you rather than standing in line yourself.
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CosmicCowboy
OK I need to apologize for my skepticism earlier. After being frustrated with trying to figure out my withholding situation for weeks, I finally broke down and tried the Claimyr service mentioned above. I was connected to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes, which honestly shocked me. The agent confirmed that federal income tax withholding is completely separate from Social Security and Medicare taxes. She explained that I needed to submit a new W-4 form to my employer ASAP since having zero federal withholding would likely result in a large tax bill next year. She even walked me through how to properly fill out the form based on my specific situation with dependents. I'm usually the last person to recommend paying for something you can technically do yourself for free, but in this case, it saved me hours of frustration and probably a big tax headache later.
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Natasha Orlova
Have you checked if you're actually listed as an employee (W-2) or if they've classified you as an independent contractor (1099)? If you're a 1099 worker, they wouldn't withhold any taxes at all - you'd be responsible for paying quarterly estimated taxes yourself.
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Zainab Omar
•Thanks for bringing this up - I just double-checked and I'm definitely a W-2 employee. My pay stub shows the typical employee deductions like Social Security and Medicare, just nothing for federal tax withholding. I spoke with HR yesterday after reading all these helpful comments and apparently I had somehow selected "Exempt" on my W-4 when I started. I've submitted a corrected form now!
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Javier Cruz
I had this exact problem last year and ended up owing over $3,000 at tax time! Check your W-4 immediately - specifically box 7. If you checked "exempt" there (even by accident), no federal income tax will be withheld. Social Security and Medicare (FICA) are totally separate taxes and will still be withheld regardless of your W-4 settings.
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Emma Wilson
•The W-4 form was totally redesigned in 2020 and doesn't have a box 7 anymore. The new form doesn't even have boxes to check, it's completely different now.
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NebulaNinja
This is a really important issue to address quickly! As others have mentioned, Social Security and Medicare taxes (FICA) are completely separate from federal income tax withholding - they should never be counted as part of your federal withholding amount when using tax software. Since you mentioned claiming $5,500 in dependents on your W-4, it's possible that this amount was high enough to reduce your federal withholding to zero or near zero, especially if your income falls within certain brackets. However, you should still see a line item on your paystub for federal taxes, even if it shows $0. I'd recommend taking a photo of your most recent paystub and checking with your HR department to confirm your W-4 was processed correctly. With two children under 17, you'll likely qualify for significant tax credits, but it's still better to have some federal tax withheld throughout the year rather than owing a large amount at tax time. Also, make sure you're not accidentally classified as exempt from withholding - this is a common mistake that can lead to big tax bills later!
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Joshua Hellan
•This is really helpful advice! I just wanted to add that even if your withholding calculations result in zero federal tax being taken out, most payroll systems will still show the federal tax line on your paystub - it'll just display $0.00 or be blank. If the line isn't there at all, that's usually a sign of a processing error or incorrect W-4 setup. One thing I learned the hard way is that while the Child Tax Credit can significantly reduce your tax liability, it's still smart to have at least some federal tax withheld throughout the year. Even with credits, you might end up owing if your income is higher than expected or if there are changes to tax laws. Better safe than sorry when it comes to avoiding that big tax bill in April!
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Toot-n-Mighty
I just went through something very similar! After reading through all these responses, I realized I made the same mistake as several others here - I had accidentally marked myself as exempt on my W-4 when I started my job. What really helped me understand the difference was looking at my pay stub more carefully. FICA taxes (Social Security at 6.2% and Medicare at 1.45%) come out automatically regardless of your W-4 settings, but federal income tax withholding is completely separate and based on your W-4 information. Since you mentioned claiming $5,500 for your dependents, that's actually a significant amount that could legitimately reduce your federal withholding to zero or very low amounts. However, you should still see a line item for federal taxes on your pay stub, even if it shows $0. I'd definitely recommend speaking with your payroll department ASAP to verify your W-4 was processed correctly. With two kids under 17, you'll get substantial Child Tax Credits, but it's usually better to have some federal tax withheld throughout the year rather than potentially owing a large amount at filing time. You can always adjust your W-4 again if too much is being withheld once you get it sorted out.
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Emily Thompson
•This is exactly what happened to me too! I was so confused when I started my current job and didn't see any federal withholding on my paystub. I kept thinking maybe my employer was making a mistake, but it turned out I had filled out my W-4 incorrectly. One thing that really helped me was using the IRS withholding calculator on their website (irs.gov) to double-check what my federal withholding should actually be. It takes into account your income, filing status, and dependents to give you a better idea of whether you're on track or if you need to adjust your W-4. Since you have two kids under 17, you're definitely going to benefit from the Child Tax Credit, but like you mentioned, it's still smart to have some federal tax withheld to avoid a big bill later. The IRS calculator can help you find that sweet spot where you're not getting a huge refund but you're also not owing thousands.
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Kiara Fisherman
Just to add another perspective here - I work in payroll and see this confusion all the time! You're absolutely right to be concerned about not seeing federal tax withholding on your paystub. Here's what might be happening: When you filled out your W-4 and claimed $5,500 in dependents, that amount gets factored into a formula that determines how much federal tax should be withheld from each paycheck. With two kids under 17 and that amount claimed, it's entirely possible that the calculation resulted in $0 federal withholding - especially if your income falls within certain brackets. However, even when the calculated withholding is $0, most payroll systems will still show a line item for "Federal Tax" or "FIT" on your paystub - it'll just display $0.00. If you're not seeing that line at all, that's usually a red flag that something went wrong with processing your W-4. I'd suggest bringing your most recent paystub to HR and asking them to verify that your W-4 information was entered correctly into their system. They should be able to show you exactly what withholding elections they have on file for you. Better to catch this now than get hit with a surprise tax bill next April!
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Noah Torres
•This is such valuable insight from someone who actually works in payroll! I've been wondering about this exact scenario. Just to clarify - when you say the line item should still show even with $0 withholding, does that apply to all payroll systems? I'm asking because I'm in a similar situation and my paystub literally has no federal tax line at all, which based on what you're saying sounds like a processing error rather than legitimately zero withholding. Should I be asking HR specifically to show me my W-4 entries in their system, or is there a particular way I should phrase this request to get the best response?
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GalaxyGuardian
•Great question! While most modern payroll systems do show the federal tax line even when it's $0, there are some older or simpler systems that might omit lines with zero values. However, this is becoming less common. When you speak with HR, I'd suggest saying something like: "I'd like to verify that my W-4 information was entered correctly into your payroll system. Could you please show me what withholding elections you have on file for me, particularly for federal income tax?" This approach is professional and gets straight to the point. You can also ask them to confirm whether your federal withholding calculation is actually resulting in $0 due to your W-4 settings, or if there might be a processing issue. They should be able to pull up your employee record and show you exactly what's in their system versus what should be there based on your W-4 form. If it turns out to be a legitimate $0 withholding due to your dependent claims, you'll want to consider whether that's actually the best strategy for your tax situation going into next year.
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