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Oliver Weber

My job isn't withholding any federal taxes - should I be worried?

I recently started a new position paying around $32/hour as a full-time single dad with two kids, putting me at roughly $66k annually. Something weird is happening with my paychecks that has me concerned about next year's taxes. For some reason, there's no federal tax being withheld from my paychecks at all. I've got my withholding status set as head of household with two dependents. When I noticed this, I immediately contacted our payroll department about it. They ran some calculations and told me that even if they removed my dependents from the calculation, I still wouldn't have any federal tax withheld based on my income level. They said the only way I'd have federal taxes taken out is if I changed my filing status to single. This has me really confused and worried about potentially owing a huge tax bill next April. If I keep things as they are (head of household with no withholdings), does that mean I won't owe any taxes when I file? Or am I setting myself up for a nasty surprise? Would it make more sense to just switch to single status if that guarantees I'll get a refund instead of possibly owing money? I'm trying to budget appropriately and don't want to get blindsided.

This actually makes sense based on your situation. As a head of household with two dependents in that income range, you likely qualify for enough tax credits and deductions that you'd owe very little or no federal income tax. The Child Tax Credit alone provides $2,000 per qualifying child, and other credits like the Earned Income Credit for lower to moderate income workers with children can significantly reduce your tax burden. The standard deduction for Head of Household ($20,800 for 2023) already removes a substantial portion of your income from taxation. What's happening is that the withholding tables used by your employer's payroll system are accurately predicting that your tax liability will be covered by these credits. If you switched to Single, you'd have money withheld because that filing status has a much lower standard deduction and doesn't account for the tax benefits of having dependents. That said, if you're concerned, you can always request additional withholding by filling out a new W-4 and specifying an extra amount to be withheld from each paycheck. This gives you peace of mind without sacrificing the tax advantages of your correct filing status.

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NebulaNinja

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But isn't there some minimum amount of taxes everyone has to pay regardless of deductions? I thought I read somewhere that even with all the credits, you still gotta pay something? Also, wouldn't switching to single status mean he'd just be getting his own money back after letting the government hold onto it interest-free for a year?

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There's no minimum amount of federal income tax that everyone must pay. If your credits and deductions reduce your tax liability to zero, you legally owe nothing in federal income tax. Many working parents with moderate incomes fall into this category because of the tax code's provisions for families with children. Regarding switching to Single status - you're right that it would essentially be giving the government an interest-free loan. Additionally, it would be filing incorrectly, which isn't recommended. The withholding system is designed to match your actual tax liability, so if you're truly head of household with two dependents, that's what you should claim on your W-4.

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Javier Gomez

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Emma Wilson

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How accurate is this tool? Does it account for state taxes too? I'm in California and my state withholdings always seem way off from what I actually end up owing.

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Malik Thomas

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Javier Gomez

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Emma Wilson

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I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and it was actually super helpful! I was in a similar situation where my employer wasn't withholding enough federal tax despite me claiming "0" on my W-4. The tool confirmed I was actually fine because of my two kids and income level. It showed me exactly how the Child Tax Credit and Earned Income Credit would offset my tax liability. It even generated a report showing my projected tax situation for the year that I could save for reference. What really helped was seeing everything broken down visually - how much of my income was covered by the standard deduction, how the credits applied, and what my final tax bill would likely be. Now I'm not stressing about a surprise tax bill, and I understand why the withholding system works the way it does for parents in our income bracket.

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Freya Larsen

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You absolutely should NOT change your filing status to single if you qualify as head of household! That's literally filing incorrectly and could cause problems down the road. Head of household has better tax rates and a higher standard deduction than single status. If you file as single when you're eligible for HOH, you'd be paying more taxes than required. If you're worried about owing taxes, there's a simple fix - just fill out a new W-4 and add an additional withholding amount on line 4(c). You can specify any extra amount you want withheld per paycheck. Even $50 per check would give you a nice cushion without having to incorrectly change your filing status.

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Omar Zaki

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How much extra should someone withhold to be safe? Is there a general percentage that makes sense?

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There's no one-size-fits-all percentage, but a good approach is to estimate your annual tax liability and divide by your number of paychecks. For someone in your situation who's concerned about under-withholding, setting aside 5% of your gross pay is often a reasonable buffer. For a more precise calculation, you can use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website. It will help you determine exactly how much additional withholding you need based on your specific situation, including income, filing status, dependents, and other factors that affect your tax liability.

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Chloe Taylor

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Has anyone actually done the math here? At $32/hr full-time, that's about $66k annually. The 2023 standard deduction for HOH is $20,800, leaving about $45k taxable. That puts some income in the 22% bracket. Child tax credits are $4k total ($2k per kid), which wouldn't completely eliminate tax liability that's well over $4k. Something doesn't add up with the employer's calculations. I'd double-check that your W-4 was processed correctly.

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Diego Flores

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Don't forget about the Earned Income Credit though. With two kids and that income level, it could be significant. Also possible OP has other deductions we don't know about.

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You're absolutely right to question those calculations, Chloe. Let me break down the math more precisely: At $66k with HOH filing status: - Standard deduction: $20,800 - Taxable income: ~$45,200 - Tax liability before credits: roughly $4,800-5,200 With two kids: - Child Tax Credit: $4,000 ($2k each) - Earned Income Credit at that income level with 2 kids: approximately $1,500-2,000 So total credits could be around $5,500-6,000, which would indeed cover or exceed the tax liability. However, I agree something seems off with the employer's system showing zero withholding. Most payroll systems are conservative and would still withhold something as a buffer. Oliver, I'd definitely verify that your W-4 information was entered correctly - especially the number of dependents and filing status. It's also worth checking if there are any other factors like pre-tax deductions (health insurance, 401k contributions) that might be reducing your taxable wages further than expected. The safest approach might be to request modest additional withholding just to avoid any surprises, even if the math suggests you'll break even.

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This breakdown really helps clarify things! I'm in a similar situation and was getting conflicting advice from different sources. One thing I'm wondering about - does the Earned Income Credit phase out quickly at higher income levels? I'm making about $58k with one kid and want to make sure I'm not overestimating my credits when planning my withholding strategy. Also, @Oliver Weber, have you considered using one of those tax projection tools mentioned earlier in the thread to double-check these calculations? It might give you more confidence in your current setup or help identify if there really is an issue with your employer's withholding system.

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