Need tax advice on $170k loan from overseas relatives for real estate investment
I'm reaching out for some tax guidance about a situation with my family overseas. We recently received about $220k as a loan from my in-laws who live in Singapore to help us purchase an investment property here in the US. Our plan is to buy a small multi-unit building and use the rental income to gradually pay back this family loan. The property looks promising with good cash flow potential. I work full-time as a project manager (W-2 employee), and my husband runs a residential construction business as a single-member LLC. We file our taxes jointly. What would be the most tax-efficient way to structure this loan and property purchase? Do we need to report this money as income? Should we formalize the loan with paperwork? I'm concerned about avoiding unnecessary tax burdens while doing everything by the book. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.
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Malia Ponder
This is a great question! First, let me clarify: family loans aren't taxable income to you as the borrower, but there are some important considerations to make this work correctly. You should absolutely formalize this with a written loan agreement that includes the loan amount, repayment schedule, and an interest rate. The IRS requires that family loans charge at least the Applicable Federal Rate (AFR) - otherwise, they may consider it a gift and potentially subject your relatives to gift tax reporting. Since this is international, your overseas relatives may need to report interest income in their country. You may be able to deduct the interest payments on your US taxes if the property is an investment, but not if it's your primary residence. Also, make sure you're documenting the flow of funds carefully. Large international transfers will generate bank reports, and you'll want clear records showing this was a legitimate loan, not income.
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Kyle Wallace
•Thanks for the info! Quick question - what happens if we don't charge interest on family loans? My parents want to give me an interest-free loan too but now I'm worried about tax implications.
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Malia Ponder
•If you don't charge at least the minimum interest rate (the Applicable Federal Rate), the IRS may recharacterize the loan. They could consider the "missing" interest as a gift from the lender to the borrower. For international transfers, this gets more complicated. If your overseas relatives don't charge interest, the IRS might impute (assign) interest income to them anyway, and they could face tax reporting requirements in the US even though they live abroad. Additionally, the foreign country may have its own rules about loans to family members residing abroad.
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Ryder Ross
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Henry Delgado
•Did it actually help with the loan paperwork itself or just review what you already had? I need to actually create proper documents from scratch for my situation.
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Ryder Ross
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Edison Estevez
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - you'll need to consider currency exchange rates for repayment. We had a family loan from relatives in Europe, and the fluctuating exchange rates caused headaches for tax purposes. If you're repaying in USD but the loan was mentally calculated in their home currency, you might have gains or losses for tax purposes as the exchange rates move. Our accountant had us establish the loan in a single currency with a fixed exchange rate at the time of the loan to avoid this complication.
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
•Did you have to file any additional forms because of the international transfer? I've heard horror stories about people getting penalized for not filing FBAR forms.
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Edison Estevez
•You don't need to file an FBAR for money you borrowed - that's only for foreign accounts you own or have signature authority over. However, depending on the size of the loan and your specific situation, you might need to file Form 3520 (Annual Return To Report Transactions With Foreign Trusts and Receipt of Certain Foreign Gifts). In our case, we did need to file this form because the loan exceeded $100,000. It's not a tax form per se, but an information return. The penalties for not filing can be steep though - up to 35% of the amount! Our loan was properly documented as a loan with market interest rates, so there were no gift tax implications, but we still needed to report it.
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James Johnson
Has anyone tried just structuring this as a gift instead of a loan? I know there are annual limits but doesn't each person get a lifetime exemption that's pretty high?
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Sophia Rodriguez
•Yes, there's a lifetime gift tax exemption (over $12 million per person in 2023), but for non-US citizens/residents giving to US persons, the rules get complicated. Foreign individuals can't use the full lifetime exemption - they're limited to the annual exclusion amount (around $17,000 per recipient). If your family members aren't US citizens/residents, the gift route could create a tax liability for them or reporting requirements you might not expect.
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GalaxyGlider
Just to add another perspective - don't forget about state tax implications too! Some states have different rules for reporting large cash transactions or loans, especially from foreign sources. In California, for example, they sometimes require additional documentation for large deposits that don't match your reported income, even if it's properly documented as a loan at the federal level. Also, since you mentioned your husband has an LLC, consider which entity should actually take the loan - personal vs business. If the LLC is buying the investment property, having the loan go directly to the LLC might simplify things, but you'll want to make sure the foreign relatives are comfortable lending to a business entity rather than individuals. The rental income and loan repayment structure could also affect your business vs personal tax situation depending on how you set it up.
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Yuki Sato
•Great point about the state implications! I hadn't even considered that different states might have their own reporting requirements. For someone like me who's new to dealing with international family loans, this is exactly the kind of detail that could trip you up. The LLC vs personal loan structure is also really interesting - I'm curious if there are any advantages to having the business entity take the loan directly? Would that potentially simplify the tax treatment of the rental income since it would all flow through the same entity? Also, @ad525049ee79, do you know if there's a way to research state-specific requirements easily, or is this something you really need a local tax professional for?
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