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Ruby Garcia

Family loan for house down payment with 0% interest from relatives outside US - Tax implications?

My parents-in-law are helping my husband and I with about $120,000 for a down payment on our first home. They live in Europe and are willing to lend us the money without charging any interest, and we don't have any formal loan agreement or repayment schedule worked out yet. Since they're not US residents, I'm pretty sure they don't have to worry about US taxes on their end. But I'm concerned about whether this would be considered a gift for tax purposes on our side, and if we'd end up owing taxes on it. We plan to pay them back over time, but nothing is officially documented. If it does count as a gift with tax implications, would it make sense to split it between tax years (maybe $60k in 2024 and $60k in 2025) to reduce any potential tax impact? Just trying to understand what we're getting into before we accept their generous offer. We're planning to close on the house in the next couple months.

That's a generous offer from your in-laws! To clarify, money received as a gift isn't taxable income to you as the recipient. The gift tax is actually the responsibility of the person giving the gift (your in-laws in this case). For 2024, each person can give up to $18,000 per year to any individual without having to report it ($36,000 total if both in-laws give to both you and your husband). Anything above that would need to be reported on a gift tax return, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll owe taxes. Non-US citizens who are not US residents generally only have gift tax liability on gifts of US property (like US real estate or securities) - not on cash gifts. Since this is meant to be a loan that you'll repay, you might want to create a simple written loan agreement. Without one, the IRS might view it as a gift. If it's a loan, the IRS expects interest to be charged at a minimum rate (the Applicable Federal Rate or AFR). If no interest is charged, the IRS might consider the "imputed interest" as a gift from your in-laws to you each year.

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Ruby Garcia

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Thanks for the detailed response! So if we do make a formal loan agreement, would we need to include interest to avoid gift tax issues? And what's this "Applicable Federal Rate" - is it much higher than what a bank would charge?

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The Applicable Federal Rate (AFR) is actually quite low compared to commercial loan rates. It's set monthly by the IRS and varies based on the loan term. For example, the AFR for long-term loans might be around 3-4% currently, which is generally lower than mortgage rates. If you create a formal loan agreement with an interest rate at or above the applicable AFR, then the transaction is treated as a straightforward loan. If the interest rate is below the AFR (or zero as in your case), then the IRS considers the "forgone interest" as a gift each year from your in-laws to you. The gift would be the difference between what interest would have been at the AFR and what was actually charged (zero in your case).

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Did you end up setting an interest rate on your family loan? I'm trying to avoid the whole "imputed interest" thing but don't want to charge my parents interest either. Feels weird.

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Maya Lewis

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I did set up a minimal interest rate at the Applicable Federal Rate (was like 2.5% when we did it). What we actually did was make the interest official on paper, but then my parents just gifted us back the interest payment amount each year within the annual gift exclusion limits. It worked perfectly and kept everything by the book. For international situations, the tool was actually really good because it has specific sections for non-US citizens. It walked me through the specific requirements for documenting loans from foreign relatives and explained how the gift tax rules apply differently to non-resident aliens. It even flagged some FBAR considerations I hadn't thought about when money is coming from foreign accounts.

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KhalilStar

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you and your spouse each keep the loan amounts under the annual gift exclusion per person if possible. Remember, each of your in-laws can give each of you $18,000 in 2024 without any reporting requirements. So that means: - Father-in-law to you: $18,000 - Father-in-law to your spouse: $18,000 - Mother-in-law to you: $18,000 - Mother-in-law to your spouse: $18,000 That's $72,000 total without any gift tax implications at all. Then you could do the same next year for the remaining amount. Just make sure each transfer is properly documented as coming from the specific in-law to the specific spouse.

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But doesn't this only work if it's truly a gift and not a loan they expect to be repaid? I thought the whole point was they want to repay it eventually?

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KhalilStar

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You're absolutely right, and that's an important distinction I should have clarified. If it's genuinely a loan that will be repaid, then structuring it as separate gifts doesn't make sense. My suggestion would apply if they decide to go the gift route instead of the loan route. Some families find it simpler to just make it a gift (perhaps with the understanding that the children will support the parents later if needed) rather than dealing with loan documentation and imputed interest calculations every year.

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Kaiya Rivera

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Just a warning from someone who's been through this - document EVERYTHING regardless of which route you choose! My wife and I borrowed $90k from her parents in Brazil for our down payment, had a verbal agreement to repay, but never formalized anything. Years later during an audit for an unrelated issue, the IRS questioned the source of our down payment. Since we had no documentation showing it was a loan, they treated the entire amount as unreported income and we got hit with a massive tax bill plus penalties. It was a nightmare to sort out. Whether you go with a formal loan with interest or decide to structure it as separate gifts, make sure you have crystal clear documentation for everything. International money transfers especially get scrutiny.

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Yikes that sounds awful! Did you end up getting it resolved or did you have to pay the taxes on it?

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Kaiya Rivera

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We eventually got it partially resolved by retroactively creating a loan document and having my in-laws sign affidavits confirming the nature of the transaction. We still had to pay some penalties for not having the proper documentation at the time, plus we had to start officially charging interest going forward. The worst part was having to hire a specialized tax attorney who understood both US and Brazilian tax law, which cost almost $8,000. The entire experience could have been avoided with a simple loan document from the beginning.

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This is exactly the kind of situation where getting proper documentation upfront can save you from major headaches later. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you have a few solid options: 1. **Formal loan route**: Create a written loan agreement with interest at the Applicable Federal Rate (currently around 3-4% for long-term loans). This keeps it clearly as a loan and avoids any gift tax complications. 2. **Gift route**: Structure it as separate gifts using the annual exclusion limits ($18,000 per person per recipient in 2024), which would let you receive $72,000 gift-tax-free this year and the remainder next year. 3. **Hybrid approach**: Set up the loan with AFR interest but have your in-laws gift you back the interest payments each year within the annual exclusion limits. Given that your in-laws are in Europe (non-US residents), they generally won't have US gift tax obligations on cash gifts to you. However, since you're receiving over $10,000 from foreign accounts, you'll likely need to file FBAR reports. I'd strongly recommend getting this documented properly from the start - either as a legitimate loan with proper terms or as clearly structured gifts. The horror stories about IRS audits treating undocumented family money transfers as unreported income are real and expensive to fix after the fact.

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Monique Byrd

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm leaning toward the formal loan route since we do genuinely intend to repay them. A couple follow-up questions: 1. Do you know where I can find the current AFR rates? I want to make sure we use the right rate for our loan term. 2. For the FBAR reporting you mentioned - is that something we file separately from our regular tax return, and when is it due? I really don't want to end up in the situation that @Kaiya Rivera described with the audit nightmare. Better to get all the paperwork right from the beginning!

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