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This is a great question that many parents face when helping their adult children with better banking options. Based on the discussion here, it sounds like the cleanest solution is to contact Marcus directly and have yourself removed as a joint owner, making your kids the sole owners of their respective accounts. Since they're adults (23 and 24) and have been filing their own taxes independently, this makes the most sense. The 1099-INT will then be issued directly to them with their SSNs, and they can report the interest income on their own returns without any complications. If for some reason you need to stay on as a joint owner for backup purposes, then whoever's SSN is primary on each account needs to report the interest income. But honestly, given that they're responsible adults managing their own finances, removing yourself as a joint owner seems like the simplest path forward that avoids all the tax reporting complexities.
This is exactly the advice I was looking for! I think removing myself as joint owner is definitely the way to go. My kids are both financially responsible and have been handling their own banking for years now - I was really just there as a safety net "just in case" but it's creating unnecessary tax complications. Quick question though - if I remove myself now (let's say in the next month or two), will the 1099-INT for this tax year still come to me since my SSN was on the account when the interest was earned? Or does it depend on whose SSN is on the account when the 1099 gets generated at year-end?
Great question! The 1099-INT is typically generated based on whose SSN is associated with the account at the time the form is issued (usually in January). So if you remove yourself as joint owner before the end of the tax year, the 1099-INT should be issued to your kids with their SSNs for the full year's interest. However, I'd recommend calling Marcus to confirm their specific policy on this. Some financial institutions have different cutoff dates for when account changes affect tax document generation. You want to make sure the change happens early enough that the 1099-INT goes to the right person for this tax year. If you're too close to year-end and the 1099-INT still comes to you, then you'd need to handle it as nominee interest for this year, but at least going forward it would be clean and simple with your kids reporting their own interest directly.
I went through this exact situation with my daughter last year. The key thing to remember is that the IRS follows the "whose SSN is on the account" rule, not the "whose money is it" rule for 1099-INT reporting. Since you mentioned you're just there as a backup and your kids are using the funds 100%, I'd strongly recommend calling Marcus and having yourself removed as joint owner on both accounts. Your kids are adults and have been filing independently - they don't really need you as a joint owner for backup purposes, and it's just creating tax complications. If you do this soon (like within the next month), the 1099-INT forms should be issued to your kids directly for this tax year. Just make sure to confirm with Marcus about their cutoff dates for tax document generation. This is definitely the cleanest solution and avoids all the nominee interest reporting headaches that others have mentioned.
This makes total sense and aligns with what others have said. I'm definitely going to call Marcus this week to get myself removed from both accounts. My kids are financially responsible adults and honestly don't need me as a safety net anymore - I was probably being overly cautious. One thing I'm wondering about though - should I wait until after the new year to make this change, or is it better to do it now? I'm a bit confused about the timing since we're already partway through the tax year. Don't want to accidentally create more complications by changing things mid-year.
I went through this nightmare last filing season and it turned out to be a timing issue with the IRS databases. Since you mentioned your child's SSN worked fine for business paperwork and school registrations, but this is happening during tax filing, there's likely a lag between when the Social Security Administration updates their records and when the IRS system syncs up. The fact that you filed successfully in April 2023 but are having issues now in March suggests the IRS might be running validation checks against an outdated database snapshot. Try calling the IRS Practitioner Priority Service line early morning (7 AM EST) - they can manually verify the SSN status in real-time and tell you if there's a systemic issue. Don't keep resubmitting electronically as it may flag your return for additional review.
This is really helpful insight about the database sync timing! I'm curious - what's the Practitioner Priority Service line? Is that different from the regular taxpayer hotline? I've been dreading calling because I've heard horror stories about waiting on hold for hours, but if there's a specific line that might actually get me through to someone quickly, that would be a game changer.
I experienced this exact same issue in February with my daughter's SSN. After spending two frustrating weeks trying different approaches, I discovered the problem was that her name in the IRS system still had her hyphenated last name from when we first got her SSN, but we had legally changed it to a single surname in 2022. Even though all other government agencies (schools, state benefits, etc.) accepted the new name format, the IRS database hadn't been updated. I ended up having to file a paper return with Form SS-5 documentation attached to prove the name change. The key insight here is that the IRS validation system is incredibly strict about exact matches - not just the SSN digits, but also the associated name and birth date must match their internal records perfectly. Since you mentioned this worked fine last year but not now, I'd suggest calling the SSA first to verify what name format they have on file, then cross-reference that with what the IRS expects. Sometimes state vital records updates don't automatically flow to federal databases.
This is such valuable information about the name matching issue! I'm wondering - when you filed the paper return with Form SS-5 documentation, how long did it take for the IRS to process everything? And did you have to send certified copies of the legal name change documents, or were regular photocopies sufficient? I'm asking because we actually did update our son's last name through the courts last year after remarriage, and while we updated it with Social Security, it's possible the IRS still has the old name format in their system. This could definitely explain why the electronic filing is being rejected even though the SSN itself is correct.
I went through this exact same situation when I refinanced in August! The key thing that tripped me up initially was making sure I understood the timing correctly. When you have two 1098 forms from the same year due to refinancing, you want to make sure you're not double-counting any interest or missing any deductions. Here's what I learned: 1. The original lender's 1098 will show interest paid from January through the payoff date 2. The new lender's 1098 will show interest from the loan start date through December 3. Any prepaid interest or points from the refinance may be partially deductible in the current year Ryan's advice about using the "Add another mortgage interest statement" feature is spot on. But also double-check that the total interest amounts make sense when you add them up - it should roughly match what you'd expect to pay for the full year on your mortgage amount. One thing to watch out for: if you paid any loan origination fees or discount points on the refinance, those might be spread over the life of the loan for tax purposes rather than fully deductible in year one. FreeTaxUSA should handle this automatically, but it's worth verifying the calculation matches IRS rules.
This is really helpful information! I'm actually in a similar situation but with a twist - I refinanced twice in the same year (once in March and again in September to take advantage of dropping rates). So now I have THREE different 1098 forms. I'm assuming the same principle applies and I just keep adding additional mortgage interest statements in FreeTaxUSA? Also, you mentioned prepaid interest - where exactly does that show up on the 1098 form? I think I might have paid some when I closed on the September refi but I'm not sure how to identify it on the form or if it's automatically included in the interest amount reported.
Yes, exactly! With three 1098 forms you'll just keep using that "Add another mortgage interest statement" option for each one. FreeTaxUSA can handle multiple entries - I've seen people with even more complex situations get it to work properly. For prepaid interest, it typically shows up in Box 6 of the 1098 form as "Points paid on purchase of principal residence." However, if you paid prepaid interest at closing that isn't points, it might just be included in the total interest amount in Box 1, or your lender might have sent you a separate statement. Check your closing disclosure (CD) from the September refinance - prepaid interest is usually itemized there under "Prepaids" or "Initial Escrow Payment." The tricky part with prepaid interest on a refinance is that it's usually deductible in the year paid (unlike points which get spread out), but make sure FreeTaxUSA isn't double-counting it if it's already included in Box 1 of your 1098.
I just went through this exact situation last month! One thing I wanted to add that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you keep all your closing documents from both the original mortgage payoff and the new loan. When you refinance mid-year, sometimes there can be timing differences between when interest was actually paid versus what gets reported on the 1098 forms. I had a situation where my original lender's 1098 showed interest through the payoff date, but there was actually a small gap of a few days where I had paid interest that didn't get reported on either form due to the timing of when the new loan funded versus when the old loan was officially paid off. Also, if you paid any mortgage insurance premiums (PMI) to either lender during the year, those are also deductible (subject to income limits) and you'll want to make sure you're capturing those from both loans as well. FreeTaxUSA has a separate section for mortgage insurance premiums that you can access after entering your mortgage interest information. The software does a pretty good job of walking you through everything once you know about the "add another" feature, but definitely review your final tax calculation to make sure the total mortgage interest deduction looks reasonable compared to what you actually paid out during the year.
This is such great advice about keeping all the closing documents! I'm going through my first refinance situation and hadn't thought about potential timing gaps between lenders. Quick question - if there is a gap like you mentioned where interest was paid but not reported on either 1098, how do you handle that in FreeTaxUSA? Do you manually add that amount to one of the 1098 entries, or is there a separate place to enter additional mortgage interest that wasn't reported on a 1098 form? Also, thanks for the tip about PMI - I definitely paid that to both lenders this year and would have completely forgotten about it being deductible!
Great question about S-Corp retirement contributions! I went through this exact same analysis last year with my single-member S-Corp. Here's what I learned that might help: You're absolutely right that you can contribute much more than 10%. With your $85,000 salary, you could max out at about $21,250 with the SEP-IRA (25% of compensation). However, I'd strongly recommend looking into a Solo 401(k) instead - it would let you contribute around $44,250 total ($23,000 employee deferral + ~$21,250 employer contribution). One thing to consider: since you're generating $120K in profits but only taking $85K salary, you might want to evaluate if increasing your salary slightly could boost your retirement contributions. Yes, you'll pay more payroll taxes, but the additional tax-deferred savings often outweigh the extra FICA costs. Also, at 42, you're actually in a good position to catch up! You'll get catch-up contributions starting at 50 (additional $7,500 for 401k), and with your strong business income, you have time to build substantial retirement savings. The key is making sure your salary remains "reasonable compensation" for your industry. Since you mentioned graphic design, $85K sounds reasonable, but you might have room to optimize the salary/distribution split for maximum retirement contributions.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm curious about the salary optimization part you mentioned. When you say "evaluate if increasing your salary slightly could boost retirement contributions," how do you calculate the break-even point? For example, if I increased my salary from $85K to $95K, I'd pay an extra $1,530 in FICA taxes (15.3% on the additional $10K). But I could then contribute an extra $2,500 to retirement (25% of the additional $10K). At my tax bracket, that $2,500 deduction would save me about $925 in income taxes. So net effect would be paying $605 more in taxes ($1,530 - $925) to put away $2,500 more for retirement. Is that the right way to think about it? And how do you make sure the higher salary still passes the "reasonable compensation" test?
I've been following this discussion and wanted to add some perspective as someone who's helped several S-Corp owners optimize their retirement strategies. One aspect that hasn't been fully addressed is the timing consideration for your situation. Since you're 42 and feeling behind on retirement savings, you might want to consider a hybrid approach for the next few years: 1. **Immediate action**: Switch to a Solo 401(k) to maximize current year contributions (as others mentioned, you could go from your current ~$8,500 to potentially $44,250) 2. **Medium-term strategy**: Once you've built up some retirement savings momentum, evaluate whether a defined benefit plan makes sense (as Emma Davis suggested). At your income level and age, you could potentially defer $75,000-$100,000+ annually. 3. **Salary optimization**: Your calculation approach is generally correct, but don't forget that higher salary also increases your Social Security benefits calculation base. At 42, those future benefits have value too. Also consider that as a graphic designer, your "reasonable compensation" could potentially support a salary higher than $85K depending on your specific role, client base, and geographic market. The IRS looks at what you'd pay someone else to do your job - if you're doing business development, client management, creative direction, AND the actual design work, $85K might be conservative. The key is documenting your rationale and comparing to industry standards in your area. Services like salary.com or PayScale can provide supporting documentation for whatever salary level you choose.
This is incredibly comprehensive advice - thank you! The hybrid approach makes a lot of sense, especially starting with the Solo 401(k) for immediate impact. I'm particularly intrigued by your point about reasonable compensation potentially being higher than $85K. You're right that I wear multiple hats - I do everything from initial client consultations and project scoping to the actual design work, client revisions, and even some basic project management. When I think about it that way, $85K might indeed be conservative for someone doing the equivalent of 3-4 different roles. The documentation aspect is something I hadn't fully considered. I've been somewhat conservative with my salary specifically because I was worried about IRS scrutiny, but it sounds like having proper documentation and industry comparisons could give me more confidence to optimize upward. Quick question on the defined benefit plan timeline - you mentioned evaluating it once I build up "retirement savings momentum." Is there a specific asset threshold or timeframe you'd recommend before making that leap? I want to make sure I'm not jumping into something too complex too quickly, but I also don't want to miss out on years of higher contribution potential if it makes sense for my situation.
Luca Ferrari
I appreciate all the detailed responses here! As someone who's navigated this exact situation, I want to emphasize that the 1095-A filing requirement is really important to get right. I made the mistake of not filing one year when I had zero income but received advance premium tax credits, and it caused major headaches when I tried to renew my marketplace coverage the following year. The key thing to understand is that if you received ANY advance premium tax credits (shown in Column C of your 1095-A), you absolutely must file Form 8962 to reconcile those payments. The IRS treats this as mandatory regardless of your income level. If you don't file, they can block your eligibility for future premium tax credits, which could make marketplace insurance unaffordable. For Drake's specific situation with zeros in Column C - you're likely not required to file just because of the 1095-A, but I'd still recommend filing if you think you might be eligible for any refundable credits. Sometimes people with very low income can claim things like the Earned Income Tax Credit or other credits that result in refunds even with no tax liability. The peace of mind from filing and starting that statute of limitations clock is worth it in my opinion, especially since free filing options are widely available for simple returns.
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Gianna Scott
ā¢This is really helpful information! I'm in a similar boat with zero income but I'm wondering about one thing - you mentioned free filing options for simple returns. Do you have any specific recommendations? I've been putting off filing because I was worried about the cost, but if there are truly free options that would handle the 1095-A situation properly, that would be a game changer for me.
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Hattie Carson
ā¢For free filing options, the IRS Free File program is your best bet! If your adjusted gross income was $79,000 or less last year (which sounds like it applies to your situation), you can use brand-name tax software completely free through the IRS website. Most of these handle Form 8962 for 1095-A reconciliation automatically. Alternatively, if you're comfortable with a more basic approach, you can use the IRS Free File Fillable Forms, which are essentially electronic versions of the paper forms. These work for any income level and are completely free, though they require a bit more tax knowledge. Many local libraries and community centers also offer free tax prep assistance through the VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) program, especially helpful if you want someone to walk you through the 1095-A situation in person. Just search "VITA near me" to find locations. The key is making sure whatever option you choose can handle Form 8962 if you had any advance premium tax credits. Don't let cost concerns stop you from filing when you need to!
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LongPeri
Just want to add another perspective on this - I work as a tax preparer and see this situation frequently. The confusion around 1095-A filing requirements is super common, so don't feel bad about being unsure! One thing I always tell clients is to look at Box 33 on their 1095-A form. If there are dollar amounts there (advance premium tax credits), filing is absolutely mandatory regardless of income. But even if those boxes show zero, you might still benefit from filing to claim the premium tax credit for the first time, which could result in a refund. Also, for future planning - if you expect to have low or zero income again, consider applying for Medicaid instead of marketplace insurance if you qualify. This would eliminate the 1095-A complexity entirely while still providing coverage. Eligibility varies by state, but it's worth checking since many states expanded Medicaid under the ACA. The bottom line is that when in doubt, it's almost always safer to file than not to file, especially with marketplace insurance involved. The penalties for not filing when required (particularly losing future premium tax credits) are much worse than the minor inconvenience of filing an unnecessary return.
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Jade Lopez
ā¢This is really valuable insight from a professional perspective! I had no idea about the Box 33 detail - that's such a clear way to determine if filing is mandatory. The Medicaid suggestion is also brilliant for future planning. Quick question - when you mention that people might benefit from filing to claim the premium tax credit "for the first time" even with zeros in the advance payment boxes, how does that work exactly? I thought the premium tax credit was only for people who already received advance payments that needed reconciliation. Can you actually claim it retroactively if you didn't get advance payments during the year? Also, do you know if there's a deadline for claiming these credits, or can someone go back and amend returns from previous years if they missed out on credits they were eligible for?
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