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Axel Far

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lol welcome to the wonderful world of taxes where nothing makes sense and everything is a headache 🤪

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Lucas Schmidt

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I had this exact same issue with my 2019 transcript! What worked for me was looking at my old pay stubs if you still have them - they usually have the full company name and EIN number. You can also try searching the partial name + "EIN" on Google, sometimes that pulls up the full business info. Also, if you used any tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block that year, they might have saved your employer info in your account. Worth checking!

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Zara Perez

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As a tax professional who works with many beauty industry clients, I want to emphasize something important that hasn't been fully addressed here: the documentation burden for personal appearance deductions is extremely high, and the IRS scrutinizes these claims heavily. For manicures to be deductible, you'd need to prove they're "ordinary and necessary" for your specific business AND that they exceed what's considered normal personal grooming. This means: 1. Maintaining detailed records of client feedback specifically about your nails 2. Documenting any special techniques or nail features that enhance your service 3. Showing how your nail maintenance differs from standard personal grooming 4. Potentially demonstrating measurable business impact (increased tips, client retention) Even then, the IRS might only allow a partial deduction - the portion that exceeds what you'd spend on "normal" nail care. The $2,340 annual expense would likely face significant scrutiny. My recommendation: Focus first on resolving your employment classification issue. If you're truly operating as an independent contractor but classified as W-2, that's a bigger tax impact than any individual deduction. Consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in beauty industry workers before making any major decisions. The peace of mind of proper tax compliance is worth more than pushing questionable deductions that could trigger audits.

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NeonNova

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was hoping to see! As someone just starting out in the industry, I really appreciate you breaking down the documentation requirements so clearly. I think you're absolutely right that I should focus on the employment classification issue first. After reading through all these comments, it sounds like many stylists are potentially misclassified, and that would have a much bigger impact on my overall tax situation than trying to justify the manicure deductions. Do you have any recommendations for how to approach the conversation with my salon owner about potentially switching to booth rental or independent contractor status? I'm worried about seeming like I'm challenging their business model, but if it would benefit both of us tax-wise, maybe they'd be open to it. Also, would it be worth getting a consultation even before making any changes, just to understand what my tax situation would look like under different scenarios? I'd rather invest in proper professional advice upfront than deal with audit issues down the road.

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Charlie Yang

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@NeonNova Great questions! For approaching your salon owner, frame it as a business opportunity rather than a criticism. You could say something like "I've been researching ways to potentially save both of us money on taxes and administrative costs. Have you ever considered booth rental arrangements?" Many salon owners actually prefer booth rental because it reduces their payroll taxes, workers' comp costs, and administrative burden. They get steady rental income instead of managing commission calculations and employee benefits. Before any conversation though, absolutely get that professional consultation. A good tax professional can run scenarios showing your potential tax liability under W-2 vs 1099 status, factoring in your specific income level, expenses, and local tax rates. This gives you concrete numbers to discuss rather than just theoretical benefits. Some areas to explore in the consultation: quarterly estimated tax payments (you'll need to start making these as a contractor), business insurance requirements, retirement planning options (SEP-IRA vs employer 401k), and healthcare considerations if you're currently on the salon's plan. The upfront investment in professional advice will pay for itself many times over in avoided mistakes and optimized tax planning. Plus, having a tax pro who understands beauty industry specifics is invaluable for ongoing questions like your manicure deduction dilemma.

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I've been following this thread as someone who went through a similar situation a few years ago, and I wanted to share what worked for me. I was a W-2 commission stylist trying to deduct everything under the sun, including my nail expenses, until I had a wake-up call during a tax preparation appointment. The key insight that changed everything was understanding that the employment classification issue isn't just about taxes - it affects your entire business relationship with the salon. When I switched to booth rental, not only could I deduct legitimate business expenses (including a portion of appearance-related costs that directly impacted my service), but I also gained control over my pricing, scheduling, and client relationships. For your specific manicure question - I do deduct about 60% of my nail expenses now as an independent contractor, but only because I can document that I get specific nail art that matches seasonal themes for my salon suite, and I track client comments and rebooking rates. The other 40% I consider personal grooming that I'd do anyway. The documentation piece that @d0c7f860b662 mentioned is crucial. I keep a simple spreadsheet with dates, services, costs, and any client feedback. Takes maybe 5 minutes after each appointment, but it's saved me during tax season when my accountant reviews everything. Bottom line: talk to a tax professional first, then approach your salon owner. The conversation might be easier than you think - many salon owners are dealing with rising labor costs and would welcome a booth rental arrangement that gives them predictable income without payroll headaches.

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This is such a helpful real-world perspective! I love that you actually track the percentage breakdown - that's way more practical than trying to justify 100% of the expense. The 60/40 split makes total sense since you're documenting the business-specific elements (seasonal themes, client feedback) while acknowledging the personal grooming component. Your point about the employment classification affecting the entire business relationship is spot on. I've been so focused on the tax implications that I hadn't really considered how booth rental might actually give me more control over my career growth and client relationships. The 5-minute documentation habit sounds totally manageable too. I'm already pretty good about tracking my other expenses, so adding client feedback notes shouldn't be too hard to incorporate into my routine. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really encouraging to hear from someone who successfully made this transition! Did you find that your overall income changed much when you switched to booth rental, or did the tax benefits roughly balance out the rental fees?

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Zainab Omar

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Quick tip - make sure to keep track of how many days you personally use the vacation home vs. renting it out. If you use it for more than 14 days or 10% of the total days it's rented (whichever is greater), the IRS treats it differently than a pure rental property and some of your deductions could be limited.

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@Zainab Omar This is really helpful information! I hadn t'considered the personal use limitation. Since I mentioned it s'a vacation home, I should probably track my usage carefully. Do you know if maintenance visits count toward personal use days? Like if I go there to do repairs or meet with contractors, does that count against the 14-day limit?

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@Keisha Thompson Good question! Maintenance visits generally don t'count as personal use days as long as you re'there primarily for repair, maintenance, or property management activities. The key is that the primary purpose of your visit needs to be for rental business, not personal enjoyment. So if you go there to meet contractors, do repairs, clean between tenants, or handle other rental-related tasks, those typically don t'count toward your 14-day limit. However, if you combine a maintenance visit with personal vacation time like (staying an extra day to relax ,)then it could count as personal use. I d'recommend keeping a detailed log of your visits including the purpose and what work you accomplished. This documentation will be helpful if the IRS ever questions your personal use calculation.

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As someone who's been managing multi-state rental properties for several years, I'd also recommend setting up a separate business checking account specifically for your Colorado rental property. This makes tracking income and expenses much easier when you're filing in multiple states, and it helps establish clear separation between personal and rental finances. Also, don't forget about depreciation! You can depreciate your rental property over 27.5 years, which can significantly reduce your taxable rental income in both states. Your property management fees, maintenance costs, insurance, and even travel expenses to visit the property for business purposes are all deductible. One more thing - consider making estimated quarterly tax payments to both states if your rental income is substantial. This can help you avoid underpayment penalties, especially since you won't have taxes withheld from rental income like you would from a regular paycheck.

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Harmony Love

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This is excellent advice! I'm just getting started with out-of-state rental property ownership and hadn't thought about the quarterly payments aspect. Since my rental income is about $2,800/month minus the 10% management fee, that's around $30,240 annually - definitely substantial enough to trigger underpayment penalties if I'm not careful. Quick question about the separate business account - do you recommend opening it in Colorado where the property is located, or can I keep it with my regular bank in Illinois? I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having it in the same state as the property, especially for local vendor payments and such. Also, thank you for mentioning the travel expenses! I hadn't realized business trips to check on the property could be deductible. That could add up to significant savings over time.

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Nah, the processing date is just when they finished looking at your return - not when you get paid! I made this same mistake last year and kept refreshing my bank account like crazy šŸ˜… You're usually looking at another 1-2 weeks after that processing date before you actually see the money. The key is finding code 846 on your transcript - that's when they actually issue your refund and you'll get it within a couple days after that. All those transcript codes are confusing AF when you're new to it but don't stress too much, your money is coming! Just gotta play the waiting game unfortunately šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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Monique Byrd

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Haha same here! I was literally checking my bank account every hour after seeing that processing date šŸ˜‚ Thanks for explaining about the 846 code - I had no idea that was the one to actually watch for. It's so confusing having all these different dates and codes when you're just trying to figure out when your money is coming! At least now I know I'm not alone in being totally lost by all this transcript stuff. Guess I'll stop obsessing and just wait for that magic 846 to appear šŸ¤ž

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StormChaser

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Processing date ≠ deposit date! I learned this the hard way too when I first started checking transcripts. The processing date is just when the IRS completes their review of your return - think of it as them stamping "approved" on your paperwork. After that, you're typically looking at another 1-2 weeks before you actually see the money in your account. The code you really want to watch for is 846 on your transcript - that's your actual refund issue date. Once you see that code, your deposit usually hits within 1-2 business days. I know all these codes and dates are super confusing when you're new to reading transcripts (honestly, they're confusing even when you're not new to them lol). Just try to be patient during the waiting period - I know it's easier said than done when you're expecting money! Your refund will come, it's just a matter of IRS timing šŸ¤ž

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Just wondering, has anyone e-filed Form 709? Or do you have to paper file these gift tax returns? The IRS website isn't super clear on this.

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Omar Fawzi

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You have to paper file Form 709. The IRS doesn't currently allow e-filing for gift tax returns. Make sure you send it certified mail with return receipt so you have proof of filing! I learned that lesson the hard way when the IRS claimed they never received my form and I had no proof I sent it.

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Jayden Reed

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This is exactly the kind of confusion that trips up so many people with gift splitting! Just to add some practical advice from my experience: when you're filling out both forms, make sure you use the exact same description of the gift on both returns. We described our gift slightly differently on each form and got a letter from the IRS asking for clarification. Also, don't forget that the filing deadline for Form 709 is April 15th (or October 15th if you get an extension), but you can't extend the time to pay any gift tax that might be due. In your case with the $60k gift, after splitting you'll each have $12k that counts against your lifetime exemption ($30k - $18k annual exclusion = $12k each), but no actual tax due unless you've already used up a big chunk of your $13.61M lifetime exemption. One more tip: keep detailed records of the gift (bank records, closing documents if it was for the house down payment, etc.) with your tax files. The IRS loves documentation when it comes to large gifts!

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This is really helpful advice about keeping consistent descriptions! I'm new to all this gift tax stuff and hadn't thought about how important the documentation would be. Quick question - when you say "exact same description," do you mean word-for-word identical, or just substantially similar? I'm worried about making a small typo and having it cause issues later. Also, thanks for clarifying the timeline on extensions. I was confused about whether the extension applied to filing and payment or just filing. Good to know that any tax due can't be extended, though it sounds like in most cases like the original poster's situation, there won't be actual tax owed anyway.

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