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Ravi Gupta

Need help with rental property depreciation catch-up - Form 3115 for previously unclaimed years?

My spouse joined the military back in 2014, and we had to relocate from our home in North Carolina when they got stationed in another state. We initially tried to sell our house, but the market was terrible at the time, so we ended up turning it into a rental property. I've got a few questions about this situation that I'm confused about. 1. We moved out in September 2014, but the house sat vacant until June 2015 when we finally found tenants. Which date would be considered the official "conversion" from personal to rental property for tax purposes? 2. I've been using TurboTax to file our returns for years, and I've never claimed depreciation on this rental house. For the 2023 tax return, the software suddenly flagged this and gave me an error message telling me to go back and check. I ended up skipping the depreciation again because I wasn't sure if I needed to amend all our previous returns or file Form 3115 to catch up. Now I'm preparing for our 2024 taxes and want to make sure I'm doing this correctly. Should I file Form 3115? Do I need to amend previous returns? 3. If I do catch up on depreciation now, will the IRS refund anything we should have received in previous years, or is that money just lost and the catch-up only helps for future returns? For context, it's a single-family home that's been continuously rented since June 2015. We haven't done any major renovations or improvements since we started renting it. The property value has gone up a bit but nothing dramatic - it's in a rural area in Tennessee. I'd estimate the value of just the building (not including the land) was around $135,000 when we converted it to a rental.

The short answer is you should file Form 3115 to correct this, and no, you won't get refunds for prior years. When you convert a personal residence to a rental property, the "placed in service" date is when you first make it available for rent. Based on what you described, that would be June 2015 when tenants actually moved in (though some could argue it was when you first listed it for rent). Regarding depreciation, this is a common situation. The IRS requires you to depreciate rental property whether you actually claim it or not. This is called "allowed or allowable" depreciation. When you sell the property, the IRS will assume you took all the depreciation you were entitled to, even if you didn't claim it on your returns. Form 3115 (Application for Change in Accounting Method) is exactly what you need. This allows you to start claiming depreciation correctly going forward without amending prior returns. You'll calculate a "catch-up" adjustment that gets spread over several years. It's what's called a Section 481(a) adjustment. Unfortunately, you can't get refunds for the depreciation you should have claimed in previous years. Those tax benefits are essentially lost, but at least filing Form 3115 will get you on the right track going forward.

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Ravi Gupta

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Thanks for the explanation! I had a feeling the prior year benefits were lost, but wanted to confirm. For the "placed in service" date - would it make any difference if we had actually listed the property for rent in October 2014, even though we didn't find tenants until June 2015? We were actively trying to rent it out during those months. Also, does Form 3115 require professional help? I usually do my own taxes with software, but this sounds complicated.

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The placed in service date would be when you first made it available for rent, which sounds like October 2014 based on your clarification. The fact that it took until June 2015 to find tenants doesn't change that - what matters is when you first held it out for rental. Form 3115 is fairly complex, and many tax software programs for individuals don't handle it well. I'd recommend getting professional help, at least for the year you file the 3115. You'll need to calculate the correct depreciation from the placed-in-service date, determine how much "catch-up" depreciation you're entitled to, and properly report it. A tax professional who specializes in real estate can help ensure it's done correctly and maximize your deduction.

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Omar Hassan

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Did they help you figure out the adjusted basis too? My situation is complicated because we did a bunch of improvements before renting our place out, and I'm not sure what can be included in the basis for depreciation.

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Diego Vargas

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I'm skeptical about these online services - how do you know they're calculating everything correctly? Form 3115 seems like something you'd want a real CPA to handle, not some algorithm.

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Omar Hassan

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Diego Vargas

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Sean Doyle

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Sean Doyle

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Zara Rashid

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - the depreciation period for residential rental property is 27.5 years. So when you calculate your "catch-up" depreciation, you'll use that period with the straight-line method. Also, don't forget that you can only depreciate the building value, not the land. If you don't have a breakdown from when you purchased it, you might need to look at your property tax assessment to see how they allocate value between land and improvements, or you might need to get an appraisal to determine the building value at the time of conversion.

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Ravi Gupta

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Thank you! Do you know if I would use the original purchase price from when we bought it as a primary residence, or the fair market value when we converted it to a rental in 2014?

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Zara Rashid

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For a conversion from personal residence to rental property, you use the lower of: 1) The adjusted basis on the date of conversion (original purchase price plus improvements, minus any casualty losses) 2) The fair market value on the date of conversion This is an important distinction because in many cases, properties decline in value between purchase and conversion (especially if you converted during a down market like 2008-2012). If your property was worth less when you converted it than what you paid, you would use the lower fair market value as your basis for depreciation.

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Luca Romano

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Just want to add that it's really important to fix this. When you eventually sell the rental property, the IRS will assume you took all allowable depreciation WHETHER YOU ACTUALLY DID OR NOT. So you'll be taxed as if you received the benefit even if you didn't claim it on your returns!

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Nia Jackson

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That's exactly what happened to my parents! They never claimed depreciation on their rental for 12 years, then when they sold it, they got hit with depreciation recapture tax on depreciation they never benefited from. Huge tax bill they weren't expecting.

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NebulaNova

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Has anyone used IRS Form 8949 to adjust the basis when selling a property where depreciation wasn't claimed? I've heard conflicting advice about whether that's an alternative to Form 3115.

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Form 8949 isn't the right approach here. That form is used when you're reporting the sale of a capital asset, not for catching up on missed depreciation. Form 3115 is specifically designed for changing an accounting method, which is exactly what you're doing when you start claiming depreciation that you previously failed to claim. The 3115 allows you to make this correction without amending prior returns. If you waited until sale to try to address unclaimed depreciation, it would be too late - the IRS would still reduce your basis by the depreciation you should have claimed, essentially taxing you on benefits you never received.

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