Converted my principal residence to rental property at the end of 2024, no rental income yet. Can I deduct expenses on my taxes?
So this part of taxes is completely new territory for me, and I'm hoping someone can help clear things up. We listed our primary home as a rental property on December 13th, 2024. We continued living in the house until January 7th, 2025 since we knew finding tenants would take some time, plus that's when our movers were available (military relocation). We didn't actually secure a tenant until January, and they didn't move in until February 7th, 2025. Between December 13th and February 7th, I made several purchases (around $1,300 total) for minor repairs and improvements to the property as suggested by our property manager. I initially thought I could claim these expenses, but when trying to work through the H&R Block software, their flowchart was confusing and unclear. I read through Publication 527 and even tried asking ChatGPT, which made me doubt if I could claim anything. I scheduled a quick 15-minute consultation with a CPA who said I could claim the expenses in my situation, but they didn't help me navigate the H&R Block questions. The only somewhat relevant information I've found discusses similar scenarios but with different timing. Some questions I have: * For tax purposes, would December 13-31 count as Fair Rental Days or Personal Use Days? Publication 527, "Placed in Service," Example 3 mentions it's once the property is listed, but doesn't address us still living in the home. * Does Publication 527, Chapter 5 apply to my situation? At the beginning of the publication, it describes Chapter 5 for properties not used for personal purposes at all during the year, which doesn't seem to fit my case.
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Jamal Brown
The key question here is when your property was "placed in service" for rental purposes. Based on your timeline, even though you listed the property on December 13, 2024, you were still using it as your personal residence until January 7, 2025. For tax purposes, a property is generally considered "placed in service" when it's ready and available for rent - not necessarily when you list it. Since you were still living there through January 7th, the property wasn't truly "available" for rent during December. The expenses you incurred between December 13th and February 7th would be considered startup expenses for your rental business. These expenses can be deducted, but only once the property was actually placed in service (when you moved out on January 7th). The expenses from January 7th onward would be deductible on your 2025 tax return, not your 2024 return. The December expenses are in a gray area - technically the property wasn't available for rent while you lived there, but you were taking steps to prepare it for rental. You could potentially capitalize these costs and depreciate them, but they wouldn't be immediate 2024 deductions.
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Fatima Al-Rashid
•What if they had moved out in December but didn't find a tenant until January? Would the expenses from December be deductible on 2024 taxes even without any rental income that year?
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Jamal Brown
•If they had moved out in December, then the property would have been "placed in service" in 2024, even without a tenant. In that case, yes, December expenses would be deductible on 2024 taxes. The key factor isn't when you find a tenant or start generating income - it's when the property is ready and available for rent. Once you've moved out and the property is available to rent, expenses from that point forward are deductible rental expenses, even during vacancy periods.
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Giovanni Rossi
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Aaliyah Jackson
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Amara Okafor
I think everyone's missing something important here - Publication 527 distinguishes between "operating expenses" and "improvement costs." Those repairs you made might be capital improvements that need to be depreciated over the property's life rather than deducted immediately, regardless of when the property was placed in service. The property manager-recommended updates sound like they might be improvements rather than repairs. Things like painting, fixing leaks, or replacing broken fixtures are repairs (deductible), but upgrades or renovations are improvements (must be depreciated).
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CaptainAwesome
•What's the dollar threshold that separates a repair from an improvement? Is there a specific amount where the IRS says "anything above $X must be depreciated"?
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Amara Okafor
•There's no specific dollar threshold that automatically makes something an improvement versus a repair. It's more about the nature of the work and its impact on the property. The general rule is that repairs maintain your property in good working condition without adding value or extending its life, while improvements add value, prolong useful life, or adapt the property to new uses. For example, fixing a broken toilet is a repair, but upgrading all bathroom fixtures would be an improvement.
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Yuki Tanaka
Anyone else catch that the OP mentioned they're military? You need to check if you're within 50 miles of your new duty station. If your old home is more than 50 miles from your new assignment, there are special rules that might help you with those expenses under the Military Spouses Residency Relief Act.
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Esmeralda Gómez
•Also, military members often have timing issues with rental conversions due to PCS orders. The IRS sometimes gives more flexibility for military-related moves. My tax guy told me there's special guidance for military families converting homes because of official orders.
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Sadie Benitez
I'm also military and went through this exact situation two years ago during our PCS. The timing issue you're dealing with is tricky, but here's what I learned from my experience and tax preparer: Since you were still living in the home through January 7th, 2025, that's likely when your property was actually "placed in service" for rental purposes, not December 13th when you listed it. The IRS considers a property available for rent when it's truly ready and available - not when you're still using it personally. For your December expenses while still living there, these would typically be considered startup costs that get deducted starting in 2025 (when the property was placed in service), not on your 2024 return. However, as military, you might have some additional considerations due to your PCS orders. I'd recommend documenting everything carefully - keep receipts separated by month and note what work was done. Also check if your expenses qualify as repairs (immediately deductible) versus improvements (must be depreciated). Simple fixes like patching holes or touching up paint are repairs, but things like new flooring or major upgrades are improvements. The military angle is important here - there are sometimes special provisions for service members dealing with rental property conversions due to official orders. You might want to specifically ask about military-related timing considerations when you file.
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