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Natasha Orlova

When does the placed in service date start for my rental property expenses & depreciation?

I'm a new landlord and I'm super confused about when I can start claiming expenses and depreciation on my rental property. My tenants moved in on June 1st this year, and I initially thought that would be my "placed in service" date for tax purposes. Made sense to me! But then I started reading IRS publication 527 and now I'm totally lost about when the property is actually considered "placed in service." Is it when I purchased it? When I finished renovations? When the tenants moved in? Or some other date entirely? I've got quite a few expenses from before the tenants moved in (repairs, new appliances, advertising costs to find tenants, etc.) and I want to make sure I'm depreciating correctly and claiming the right expenses at the right time. This is my first rental property so I really don't want to mess up my taxes. Anyone have experience with this or know exactly what the IRS considers the "placed in service" date for a rental property? Would appreciate any advice!

The "placed in service" date is when your property is ready and available for rent, not necessarily when tenants actually move in. According to IRS guidelines, this is when the property is in a condition that would allow for occupancy under appropriate state and local laws. So if your property was ready for tenants before June 1st and you were actively trying to rent it out (advertising, showing it to prospective tenants, etc.), then your placed in service date would be earlier than the actual move-in date. If you were doing renovations that prevented the property from being rentable before that, then the placed in service date would be when those renovations were completed and the property became available to rent. For expenses, you can generally deduct ordinary and necessary expenses for managing, conserving, or maintaining rental property from the time you make it available for rent. Depreciation begins when the property is placed in service for the business or income-producing purpose.

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Wait, so if I bought a rental in February, finished some minor repairs in March, and started advertising in April but didn't get tenants until July, the "placed in service" date would be in April when I started trying to rent it out? Even though no one was actually living there and paying me yet?

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Yes, that's correct. The placed in service date would be when you started making the property available for rent in April. The fact that tenants didn't move in until July doesn't change the placed in service date. For depreciation purposes, you would start taking depreciation in April when the property was ready and available for rent. You can deduct expenses related to the rental activity from that point as well, including advertising costs, utilities while vacant but available, etc. The minor repairs you did in March might be either deductible expenses or improvements that need to be depreciated, depending on their nature.

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From my experience as a landlord for 15+ years, here's some practical advice on the "placed in service" issue: 1. Document EVERYTHING with dates - when you purchased, when renovations were completed, when you listed it for rent, and when tenants moved in. Take pictures of the property when it's ready to be rented as evidence. 2. If you're audited, the IRS will look at when the property was "ready and available" for rent, not just when tenants moved in. Having documentation of your rental listings with dates is super important. 3. For partial year depreciation in the first year, you'll use the mid-month convention - meaning if your property was placed in service in June, you'd get 6.5 months of depreciation for that first year. 4. Keep receipts for ALL expenses related to the property, even from before it was officially "placed in service." Some of these will be added to your cost basis, others might be immediately deductible.

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What about utilities and other expenses during the time when the property is ready to rent but sitting vacant? Can those be deducted? And do you use Schedule E for reporting even in the first partial year?

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Yes, utilities and other expenses during vacancy periods are deductible as long as the property is available for rent. This includes things like electricity, water, HOA fees, insurance, property management fees, and advertising costs while you're looking for tenants. You absolutely use Schedule E even for a partial first year. You'll report all rental income received and deduct all eligible expenses. For depreciation, you'll need to calculate the prorated amount based on the placed-in-service date using the mid-month convention. Most tax software will do this calculation for you once you enter the correct date.

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Can someone explain the difference between improvements vs repairs for a rental property? I'm in a similar situation as the original poster but I'm confused about which of my pre-rental expenses should be depreciated vs deducted immediately.

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Generally, repairs maintain your property in good working condition and are fully deductible in the year you pay for them. Examples include fixing leaks, repainting, replacing broken windows, etc. Improvements add value to the property, adapt it to new uses, or extend its life. These must be depreciated over time. Examples include room additions, new roof, new appliances, major renovations. The IRS has a "de minimis safe harbor election" that allows you to immediately deduct certain items costing less than $2,500 per invoice that might otherwise need to be capitalized. You need to make this election on your tax return.

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As someone who just went through this exact situation with my first rental property last year, I can confirm that the "placed in service" date is indeed when your property becomes ready and available for rent, not when tenants actually move in. In my case, I purchased the property in March, completed necessary repairs by early May, and immediately started advertising it for rent. Even though I didn't find tenants until July, my placed in service date was May when I first made it available for rent. One thing that really helped me was keeping detailed records of everything - photos of the completed repairs, screenshots of my rental listings with dates, receipts for advertising costs, etc. This documentation proved invaluable when I was calculating my depreciation and organizing my expenses for Schedule E. For your expenses before tenants moved in (repairs, appliances, advertising), you'll need to categorize them correctly. Some will be immediately deductible rental expenses (like advertising costs and minor repairs), while others might need to be added to your property's basis for depreciation (like major improvements or new appliances that increase the property's value). My advice is to start organizing all your receipts by date and category now - it will make tax time much easier and ensure you don't miss any deductions you're entitled to take.

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This is exactly the kind of confusion I had when I started with rental properties! The key thing to remember is that "placed in service" is about when the property is ready and available for rent, not when you actually start collecting rent. Based on what you've described, if your property was ready for tenants before June 1st and you were actively marketing it (even if no one moved in until June 1st), then your placed in service date would be earlier. However, if you were still doing repairs or renovations that made the property unrentable until right before June 1st, then June 1st could indeed be your placed in service date. The expenses you mentioned (repairs, appliances, advertising) will be handled differently depending on their nature: - Advertising costs and minor repairs are typically deductible as rental expenses - Major improvements and new appliances usually need to be depreciated over time - Some expenses incurred before the property was placed in service might need to be added to your cost basis I'd recommend documenting everything with dates and keeping all receipts organized. If you're still unsure about your specific situation, consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in rental properties - it's worth the investment to get it right from the start, especially since this affects your depreciation calculations for years to come.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation with my first rental property and the distinction between repairs vs improvements is still confusing me. You mentioned that major improvements and new appliances need to be depreciated - does this include things like replacing old carpet with new carpet, or painting the entire interior? I've been treating these as repairs since they're maintaining the property, but now I'm wondering if I should be depreciating them instead. Also, when you say "consider consulting with a tax professional," do you have any recommendations for finding someone who specializes specifically in rental properties rather than just general tax prep?

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Great questions @Victoria Charity! For carpet and painting, it generally depends on the scope and purpose. If you're replacing carpet with similar quality carpet or painting to maintain the property (same colors, basic paint), these are typically considered repairs and can be deducted immediately. However, if you're upgrading to significantly better carpet or doing a complete color makeover that adds value, it might be considered an improvement that needs to be depreciated. The IRS looks at whether you're restoring the property to its original condition (repair) or making it better than it was (improvement). When in doubt, the safe approach is often to treat borderline items as improvements and depreciate them. For finding a rental property specialist, I'd recommend asking local real estate investor groups or landlord associations for referrals. You can also search for CPAs or EAs who specifically mention rental properties or real estate investing on their websites. Many general tax preparers don't stay current on the nuances of rental property tax law, so it's worth finding someone who deals with landlords regularly. The cost of a good consultation upfront can save you thousands in missed deductions or incorrect depreciation over the years.

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I went through this same confusion when I started my rental property journey! One thing that really helped me understand the "placed in service" concept was realizing it's all about when the property becomes available for its intended rental use, not when you actually start earning income from it. In your case with tenants moving in June 1st, that might actually be your placed in service date IF that's when the property was first ready and available for rent. But if you had finished repairs and could have rented it earlier but just didn't find tenants until then, your placed in service date would be earlier. Here's what I learned about those pre-tenant expenses you mentioned: - Advertising costs to find tenants are typically deductible rental expenses - Repairs to get the property rent-ready are usually deductible - New appliances that add value may need to be depreciated rather than expensed immediately The key is documenting everything with dates - when repairs were completed, when you started advertising, when the property was actually ready for occupancy. I took photos of my property when it was rent-ready as evidence for my records. Since this is your first rental, I'd really recommend getting professional help for at least your first year's taxes. A CPA who specializes in rental properties can help you set up proper record-keeping systems and make sure you're classifying everything correctly from the start. It's an investment that pays off in properly maximized deductions and avoiding future headaches with the IRS.

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This is exactly the kind of thorough advice I wish I had when I started! @Sophia Nguyen you re'absolutely right about documentation being key. I made the mistake of not taking photos when my property was first rent-ready, and it caused some confusion later when I was trying to reconstruct my timeline for tax purposes. One thing I d'add for @Natasha Orlova - make sure you understand the mid-month convention for depreciation that someone mentioned earlier. Since you re starting'depreciation partway through the year, you don t get'a full year s worth'in that first year. The IRS assumes all rental property is placed in service in the middle of the month, so if your placed in service date is June 1st, you d actually'get 6.5 months of depreciation for that tax year. Also, keep track of which expenses are related to getting the property rent-ready versus ongoing maintenance once it s in'service. The pre-service expenses might be handled differently, and having them clearly separated will make your tax preparation much smoother. I learned this the hard way when I had to go back through months of receipts trying to figure out what happened when!

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I completely understand your confusion about the placed in service date - it's one of those tax concepts that seems straightforward until you actually try to apply it! As others have mentioned, the key is that it's when your property becomes ready and available for rent, not necessarily when tenants move in. For your situation, you'll need to determine exactly when your property was in a condition where it could legally be rented out. If you were still doing essential repairs or renovations that prevented tenants from moving in before June 1st, then June 1st would likely be your placed in service date. But if the property was actually ready earlier and you were just looking for the right tenants, then your placed in service date would be earlier. Here's my practical advice for sorting through your expenses: - Keep all receipts organized by date and type of expense - Repairs needed to make the property rentable are typically deductible - New appliances and major improvements usually need to be added to your basis and depreciated - Advertising costs are generally deductible rental expenses Since this is your first rental property, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who has experience with rental properties, at least for this first year. They can help you properly classify your expenses and set up good record-keeping practices that will serve you well in future years. The investment in professional guidance upfront can save you from costly mistakes and ensure you're maximizing your legitimate deductions. Don't stress too much - with proper documentation and maybe some professional help, you'll get through this!

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