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Malik Johnson

Purchased investment property in 2022, made repairs, but not rented until 2023 - Can I deduct these expenses?

I've got a few rental properties already, so I'm not completely new to this game, but I've run into a timing situation I haven't dealt with before. I bought a new investment property back in August 2022. After purchase, I put about $14,000 into various repairs and improvements to get it ready for tenants (new water heater, fixing some plumbing issues, painting, replacing some damaged flooring, etc.). The problem is, I didn't actually get it rented out until March 2023. Now I'm doing my taxes in TurboTax like I usually do, and I'm confused about how to handle all those 2022 expenses when the property wasn't generating any income that year. When I started entering these expenses into TurboTax for the 2022 tax year, I got some warning message that I don't fully understand. I'm used to just deducting all my expenses and taking depreciation on my other rental properties, but this situation with repairs in one year and rental income starting the next year has me confused. Can I deduct these 2022 pre-rental expenses on my 2022 return? Do I have to wait and somehow include them in 2023? Or am I completely out of luck on these costs? Any guidance would be super helpful!

The timing of expenses and when a property is "placed in service" is important here. The IRS considers a rental property "placed in service" when it's ready and available for rent - not necessarily when you actually find a tenant. For the repairs you made in 2022, you need to determine if they were: 1. Ordinary repairs/maintenance (generally deductible in the year paid) 2. Capital improvements (must be depreciated over the property's recovery period) 3. Start-up expenses (special rules apply) If your property was "ready and available" to rent in 2022, even though you didn't get a tenant until 2023, you can likely start depreciation and deduct appropriate expenses in 2022. You would file Schedule E showing zero income but with applicable expenses. For repairs specifically: ordinary repairs are immediately deductible, while improvements that add value or extend the useful life of the property must be capitalized and depreciated. The lack of rental income doesn't prevent you from claiming legitimate expenses - you'll just show a loss.

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Ravi Sharma

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Thanks for the explanation. What exactly counts as "ready and available" though? I finished most repairs by November 2022 but didn't list it for rent until January 2023 because the market was slow in winter. Would the property still count as "placed in service" in 2022? Also, how do you determine what's a repair vs a capital improvement? Is replacing an existing water heater a repair or improvement?

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Ready and" available generally means the property is in a condition to be rented and'you re actively trying to rent it. If you deliberately waited until January 2023 to list it, the IRS would likely consider January as when it was placed in service, not November when repairs were completed. For repairs vs. improvements, it depends on the nature of the work. Replacing a water heater with a similar model is typically considered a repair and immediately deductible. However, if you upgraded to a significantly better model that increases the'property s value or extends its useful life, it would be a capital improvement that must bedepreciated.

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NebulaNomad

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Freya Thomsen

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Did they help you figure out if expenses from before renting started were deductible? My CPA is telling me I can't deduct anything until I actually have rental income, which doesn't sound right based on what others are saying.

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Omar Fawaz

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How detailed do you need to be with the documentation? I have a bunch of Home Depot receipts but didn't keep perfect records of what went to which property. Can they still help with partial information?

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NebulaNomad

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They absolutely helped me with pre-rental expenses! Your CPA is incorrect - you can definitely claim certain expenses before you have rental income, as long as the property is "placed in service" (meaning ready and available for rent). The key is properly documenting and categorizing everything. For documentation, they work with whatever you have. I wasn't super organized either - had some receipts mixed together for multiple properties. They helped me create a reasonable allocation method and documentation system so I could substantiate my deductions if audited. They can work with partial information and help you build a defendable position.

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Freya Thomsen

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Did they help you figure out if expenses from before renting started were deductible? My C

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Freya Thomsen

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Chloe Martin

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Diego Rojas

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Sorry, but this sounds like BS. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. I've worked in tax preparation for years and everyone deals with the same hold times. If this service actually exists, they're probably just calling at off-peak hours or something anyone could do themselves.

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Chloe Martin

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I need to apologize to Profile 19 regarding Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself rather than just dismiss it. I had a client with a complex rental property depreciation question that I couldn't get a clear answer on. I used the service yesterday and got connected to an IRS representative in about 18 minutes. Normally I would have been on hold for 2+ hours (if I got through at all). The agent confirmed that my client could start depreciation in the year the property was available for rent, even though they didn't secure a tenant until the following year. For the original question: the IRS agent specifically said that repair expenses made before the property is "placed in service" generally must be capitalized rather than immediately deducted, regardless of their nature. However, once the property is "available for rent" (listed, advertised, etc.), the property is considered placed in service, and normal expense rules apply. So timing of when you actually made the property available for rent is critical here.

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StarSeeker

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Another important consideration is the passive activity loss rules. Even if you can deduct these expenses in 2022, if your rental activities generate a loss, your ability to use those losses might be limited based on your income level. If your modified adjusted gross income is below $100,000, you can deduct up to $25,000 of rental losses against other income. This deduction phases out between $100,000-$150,000, and if your MAGI is above $150,000, you generally can't use rental losses against other income. Any unused losses get carried forward to future years when you either have rental income or when you sell the property.

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Malik Johnson

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Oh that's a good point I hadn't considered! My MAGI for 2022 was around $135,000, so I guess I'd be in that phaseout range. Does that mean I'd only be able to use a portion of any losses from this new property?

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StarSeeker

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You're exactly right. With a MAGI of $135,000, you're $35,000 into the $50,000 phaseout range, which means you could only deduct 30% of what would otherwise be allowed. So instead of a $25,000 maximum deduction, you'd be limited to $7,500 in rental losses that could offset other income. The remaining losses would carry forward to future tax years. You can use those carried-forward losses to offset future rental income, or claim them when you eventually sell the property. Make sure TurboTax is calculating this correctly - sometimes the software doesn't make the passive activity loss limitations obvious.

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I had a similar situation and my accountant told me to keep track of "startup" activities vs ongoing business expenses. Apparently pre-opening costs have different rules than regular business expenses. You might want to check out IRS Publication 535 (Business Expenses) which talks about the difference. I think you can elect to amortize startup costs over 15 years or something like that.

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Zara Ahmed

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Publication 535 is definitely helpful, but for rental properties specifically, also look at Publication 527 "Residential Rental Property." It covers the exact scenario of when you can start taking deductions and depreciation based on when a property is "placed in service.

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Cameron Black

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The key distinction you need to understand is between startup costs and regular business expenses. Since you already have rental properties, this new property expansion might not qualify for the same startup cost treatment as someone just entering the rental business. For your $14,000 in repairs, you'll need to categorize each expense: 1. **Repairs that restore the property to working condition** (fixing plumbing, painting) - these can typically be deducted immediately once the property is placed in service 2. **Improvements that add value or extend useful life** (upgraded flooring, better water heater) - these must be depreciated over 27.5 years 3. **Costs incurred before the property was available for rent** - these might need special treatment The critical date is when you made the property "available for rent" - not when you found a tenant. If you completed repairs in November 2022 but didn't list it until January 2023, then January 2023 is likely your "placed in service" date. This means you'd claim the deductible expenses on your 2023 return, not 2022. However, if you can demonstrate the property was ready and you were actively seeking tenants in 2022 (even informally), you might be able to claim 2022 as the placed-in-service year. I'd recommend getting professional guidance since the timing affects not just which year you claim expenses, but also how they're treated under passive activity loss rules.

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