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I almost messed up my tax loss harvesting by forgetting about the special rules for mutual funds! If anyone's planning to sell mutual funds (not ETFs) on December 31st, remember that mutual funds only trade once per day after market close. You have to place your order before the fund's cutoff time (usually 4pm Eastern) for it to execute on that day. Miss the cutoff and your trade gets processed on the next business day, which would be next year!
Good point! Also, some brokerages have earlier cutoffs for mutual fund orders, like 3pm Eastern instead of 4pm. Always check your specific brokerage's policies.
That's a great add! Fidelity and Schwab typically use the 4pm Eastern fund cutoff, but you're right that some brokerages impose their own earlier deadlines. TD Ameritrade used to require mutual fund orders by 3pm Eastern for same-day execution before they were acquired by Schwab. Always best to give yourself plenty of buffer time rather than trying to squeeze in orders at the last minute. I learned that lesson the hard way a few years ago when I missed tax loss harvesting a big position because my order went through 5 minutes after cutoff.
Just want to add another important timing consideration - if you're planning to do tax loss harvesting with international stocks or ADRs (American Depositary Receipts), be extra careful about the settlement timing. While US stocks typically settle T+2, some international securities can have longer settlement periods. Also, if you're holding stocks in a foreign market that trades on a different schedule (like Tokyo or London), make sure you understand when their December 31st equivalent deadline falls in your local time zone. I had a friend who missed harvesting losses on some European stocks because he didn't account for the time difference properly. The key takeaway remains the same - it's the trade date that matters, not settlement - but just wanted to flag these additional complexities for anyone with international holdings in their portfolio.
Really helpful point about international securities! I've been wondering about this exact issue with some ADRs in my portfolio. Do you know if there's a reliable way to check the settlement periods for specific international stocks, or is this something I'd need to call my broker about? Also, just to clarify on the time zone issue - if I'm holding a stock that trades on the London exchange, would I need to execute the trade by December 31st London time, or December 31st in my local US time zone? The trade date rules can get confusing when markets are in different time zones.
I'm dealing with this right now too! Got my 570 code about 10 days ago and received the dreaded "60-day review" letter yesterday. This is my first time experiencing this and it's honestly pretty stressful since I was planning to use my refund to pay down some student loans. From what I've been researching, it seems like the IRS has really ramped up their review processes this year. I filed a pretty straightforward return - just W-2 income, student loan interest deduction, and standard deduction. Nothing that should raise red flags, but here we are! One thing that's been helpful is checking my transcript every Friday to see if there are any updates. I've also been keeping a log of the dates and codes just in case I need to reference them later. The uncertainty is the worst part - not knowing if it's going to be resolved in 2 weeks or the full 60 days makes it really hard to plan anything. Hang in there! From what I'm seeing in this thread and other forums, most people are getting resolved within 30-45 days even though they say 60. Fingers crossed we're both in that faster group!
I'm going through the exact same thing! Got my 570 code about a week ago and just received my review letter today. Like you, I was counting on my refund for student loans - it's so frustrating when you budget around that money and then it gets held up. Your idea about keeping a log is really smart, I'm going to start doing that too. I've been checking my transcript obsessively but not tracking the details. It's reassuring to hear that most people seem to be getting resolved faster than the 60 days they quote. Did your letter give any specific reason for the review, or was it just the generic "accuracy" language? Mine was pretty vague which makes the waiting even harder. At least we're not alone in this - seems like half the community is dealing with 570 codes this year! Keeping my fingers crossed for both of us that we get those 571 codes soon. Thanks for sharing your timeline, it helps to know where others are in the process.
Same exact situation here! Got hit with the 570 code about 2 weeks ago and just received my review letter yesterday. This is my first time dealing with this too and it's honestly nerve-wracking. What's frustrating is that I filed the most basic return possible - just my W-2, standard deduction, nothing fancy. I'm a recent grad too so I was really counting on that refund to help with some expenses while I get settled in my new job. From everything I've been reading here and other forums, it seems like the IRS is just being extra cautious this year. Probably a combination of being understaffed and wanting to crack down on fraud. Unfortunately that means legitimate taxpayers like us get caught in the crossfire. I've been checking my transcript every few days and keeping screenshots just in case. The waiting is the worst part since there's literally nothing we can do except... wait. But it's reassuring to see so many others going through the same thing and most seem to get resolved within 30-45 days despite the scary 60-day warning. Hoping we all get our 571 codes soon! Will definitely update if I see any movement on mine.
Another option: if your spouse was from a country that has a tax treaty with the US, check if there are any special provisions that might help. My wife is from Canada and there were specific rules that applied to our situation when she got her green card.
Thanks for bringing this up! My wife is from Japan - do you know if they have a tax treaty with the US that might have special provisions?
Yes, the US has a tax treaty with Japan! Article 4 of the US-Japan tax treaty has tie-breaker rules that can help determine residency status, and there are provisions about avoiding double taxation. You might want to look into whether any treaty benefits apply to your situation, especially if your wife had income in Japan before getting her green card. The treaty could potentially provide relief from double taxation on that income. I'd recommend checking IRS Publication 519 which covers tax treaties, or consulting with a tax professional who's familiar with US-Japan treaty provisions.
I went through this exact same situation two years ago when my husband got his green card in July. The key thing to understand is that without making the 6013(h) election, your wife would be considered a "dual-status alien" for 2024 - meaning she'd be a non-resident for the months before getting her green card and a resident afterward. This creates a really complicated filing situation where you'd have to file separately, and she'd need to file a dual-status return (which is basically two tax returns stapled together). The 6013(h) election lets you treat her as a US resident for the ENTIRE year, so you can file jointly and simplify everything. A few important things to keep in mind: First, once you make this election, you can't revoke it for that tax year. Second, as others mentioned, ALL of her worldwide income for the full year becomes taxable in the US. Third, you'll need to attach a statement to your return specifically stating you're making the 6013(h) election. We found it was definitely worth it in our case because the tax savings from filing jointly more than offset the additional income inclusion. But definitely run the numbers both ways to be sure!
This is such a helpful breakdown! I'm in a similar situation where my spouse got her green card in September. One question - when you say "run the numbers both ways," do you have any recommendations for tax software or tools that can handle the dual-status calculation? I've been struggling to find something that can properly model the non-resident portion vs resident portion comparison to see if the 6013(h) election makes sense for us.
Has anybody used care.com or similar services for finding backup childcare? I'm wondering if using an agency vs hiring directly affects the tax deduction situation at all.
I use care.com and it doesn't change the deduction rules. You still need the Tax ID of whoever provided the care. In some cases the platform might be considered the provider (if they're the ones paying the caregiver), but in most cases on care.com you're paying the caregiver directly so you need their info.
One thing to keep in mind is that your irregular 1099 schedule might actually work in your favor for justifying these additional childcare expenses. Since you can't predict when you'll be called in for those 14+ hour shifts or overnight assignments, having backup childcare available becomes a legitimate necessity for maintaining your income. The key is documentation - keep a detailed log of your work calls/assignments and how they correlate with your childcare needs. This will help support your claim that the nanny/au pair expenses are directly tied to your ability to work, especially during times when regular daycare isn't available (evenings, weekends, extended hours). Also consider that with your unpredictable schedule, you might qualify for a higher percentage of the Child and Dependent Care Credit if your irregular income puts you in a lower AGI bracket. The credit percentage can be up to 35% of qualifying expenses for lower income levels.
This is really helpful advice about documentation! I'm new to this community but dealing with a very similar situation. Quick question - when you say "keep a detailed log," what specific information should I be tracking? Just the dates and times I get called in, or do I need more detail than that? I want to make sure I'm documenting everything correctly from the start rather than trying to reconstruct it later during tax season.
Paolo Conti
I'm confused about the child tax credit situation with Form 8332. If I let my ex claim our kids using this form, does that mean they get ALL the tax benefits? Or do I still get some of them?
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Sofia Ramirez
ā¢When you release the claim using Form 8332, you're allowing your ex to claim the child as a dependent, which generally means they'll receive the following benefits: - Child Tax Credit - Credit for Other Dependents - Education credits - Dependent care credit However, even if you've released these claims, the custodial parent (presumably you) can still claim: - Head of Household filing status (if you qualify) - Earned Income Credit - Child and Dependent Care Credit The IRS specifically ties some benefits to which parent the child lives with for the majority of the year, regardless of who claims them as a dependent.
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Jacob Lewis
Just want to add one more tip that saved me a lot of trouble - make sure you keep detailed records of when you give the completed Form 8332 to your ex. I take a photo of the signed form and send it via email so there's a timestamp, then also give them the original. Last year my ex lost the form right before filing and we had to scramble to get another one signed. Having that digital backup with the date stamp helped prove I had provided it on time. Also helped when the IRS had questions later - I could show exactly when the form was completed and delivered. The whole process is stressful enough without having to worry about lost paperwork!
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Debra Bai
ā¢That's such a smart tip about keeping digital records! I never would have thought to take a photo and email it. I'm just starting this process for the first time and already feeling overwhelmed by all the documentation. Do you recommend any specific way to organize all these tax-related documents? I have the feeling this won't be the last form I need to keep track of between now and when my kids are adults.
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