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I know this is a bit off-topic, but make sure you're also checking if you need to file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) if your US financial accounts exceeded $10,000 at any point during the year. That requirement is separate from income tax filing and applies to many non-residents with US accounts regardless of whether you owe any tax.

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Lydia Bailey

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This is important! I completely forgot about FBAR requirements when dealing with my non-resident tax situation and got hit with a warning letter. The penalties can be severe if they decide you willfully avoided filing. The $10,000 threshold is across ALL your US financial accounts combined, not just each individual account.

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I went through this exact situation two years ago and can confirm what others have said about the 183-day rule. Since you had zero days of US presence, your capital gains from stock sales are not subject to US taxation as a non-resident alien. However, I'd strongly recommend keeping detailed records of your physical presence (or lack thereof) in the US. I maintained a simple spreadsheet with dates, locations, and even flight records showing I never entered the US that tax year. This documentation proved invaluable when I later had questions about my filing position. One thing to consider: if you had any taxes withheld at source on dividends or other income during the year, filing a 1040NR might actually get you a refund. But for pure capital gains with no US presence, you're correct that filing isn't required. Just make sure you understand the distinction between different types of income from your brokerage account.

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This is really helpful advice about keeping detailed records! I'm curious - when you mention taxes withheld at source on dividends, how does that work exactly? My brokerage account shows some dividend payments this year but I'm not sure if any withholding happened. Would this show up somewhere specific on my 1099 forms, and if so, would it be worth filing just to potentially get that money back even if I don't owe anything on the capital gains?

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Logan Chiang

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just wanted to add that if ur SSN was used for work, u could end up owing taxes on income u never earned!! happened to my cousin and the IRS came after HIM for the taxes owed! took almost a year to sort out and he had to get a tax attorney. social security admin and irs actually dont talk to each other much so u need to address this with both agencies separately.

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Isla Fischer

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omg this is my nightmare. how much did the tax attorney cost? i'm dealing with something similar and worried i can't afford legal help...

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Ava Garcia

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This is such a scary situation, but you're smart to catch it now! I went through something similar when I found mystery earnings on my SSA statement from when I was deployed overseas. One thing I learned is that you should also request your IRS tax transcripts for all the years showing suspicious activity. You can get them free at irs.gov or by calling 1-800-908-9946. The transcripts will show you exactly what (if anything) was filed under your SSN for tax purposes, which is different from what shows up on your Social Security statement. Also, don't wait to file your legitimate tax return for that year if you were required to file. The IRS actually prefers when the real taxpayer files because it helps them identify the fraud. If someone else already filed using your info, your return will be rejected electronically, but that's actually good - it triggers the identity theft investigation process. Make sure to keep detailed records of everything - all your travel documents showing you were abroad, any communication with agencies, police reports, etc. This paper trail becomes really important if the situation gets complicated. The whole process is frustrating but totally manageable if you stay organized and persistent!

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Melissa Lin

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I'm really sorry this happened to you - losing $5K on what you thought was a safe long-term investment is incredibly frustrating. As others have confirmed, unfortunately you can't deduct annuity surrender losses under current tax law due to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act suspending miscellaneous itemized deductions through 2025. What might help is thinking of this as valuable (albeit expensive) financial education. At 22, you trusted what seemed like professional advice, but now you have the knowledge to make much better investment decisions going forward. Many people don't learn about the high fees and surrender charges in these products until they're much older with even larger losses. For the $23K you received back, consider putting it into low-cost index funds in a taxable account or maxing out tax-advantaged accounts like your 401k or IRA if you haven't already. These will give you much better transparency, lower fees, and the ability to use any future losses for tax purposes. Also, definitely keep all your paperwork from this surrender - the original contract, payment records, and surrender statements. While the loss isn't deductible now, tax laws can change, and having complete documentation could be valuable if deductibility rules are restored after 2025. You're not alone in this situation - the annuity industry has unfortunately caught many young investors in similar fee traps. The important thing is learning from it and making better choices going forward.

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Ravi Patel

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This is such thoughtful and comprehensive advice! I really appreciate you taking the time to lay out both the immediate reality (no deduction possible) and the long-term perspective on this situation. The point about keeping all the paperwork for potential future tax law changes is something I hadn't considered - that's really smart forward-thinking. Even if the chances are slim, having the documentation costs nothing and could potentially be valuable down the road. I'm also glad you mentioned the psychological aspect of this. I've been feeling pretty foolish about the whole thing, but you're right that learning this lesson at a younger age is actually better than discovering these fee structures decades later with much larger amounts at stake. It's still painful, but at least now I know what questions to ask and red flags to watch for. Your suggestion about redirecting the $23K into low-cost index funds or maxing out tax-advantaged accounts makes perfect sense. I've been hesitant to do anything with the money because I'm worried about making another expensive mistake, but simple, transparent, low-fee investments are clearly the way to go. Thanks for helping me see this as education rather than just a financial disaster!

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Emma Davis

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I'm really sorry to hear about your $5K loss - that's such a frustrating situation, especially after being disciplined about contributing for so many years. Unfortunately, the other commenters are correct that you can't deduct annuity surrender losses under current tax law. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act suspended the miscellaneous itemized deductions that would have previously allowed this type of loss (subject to the 2% AGI floor) through 2025. While this doesn't help with your immediate tax situation, I'd recommend using this experience as motivation to review your overall investment strategy. That $23K you received back could work much harder for you in low-cost index funds or by maxing out your 401(k)/IRA contributions. At least with traditional investments, any future losses could potentially be used for tax-loss harvesting. Also, definitely keep all your surrender paperwork - the contract, payment records, and surrender statement. Tax laws do change, and if miscellaneous itemized deductions are restored after 2025, having complete documentation could be valuable. I know it's little consolation right now, but learning about investment fees and surrender charges at your age, while painful, is actually better than many people who don't discover these costly structures until they're closer to retirement with much larger amounts at stake. Consider it expensive but valuable financial education that will serve you well going forward.

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Aaron Lee

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This is really helpful advice, especially the part about keeping all the paperwork for potential future changes in tax law. I hadn't thought about that angle at all. It's frustrating that the timing of the TCJA suspension means I'm stuck with this loss right when it happened, but I guess there's nothing to be done about that. Your point about this being better than learning the lesson later with larger amounts really helps put it in perspective. I keep oscillating between being angry at myself and being angry at the system, but you're right that at least now I know what to look for. I'm definitely going to be much more careful about fees and surrender periods before putting money into any investment product again. The idea of redirecting that $23K into index funds makes a lot of sense. I've been paralyzed about what to do with it because I'm scared of making another expensive mistake, but simple, low-cost investments seem like the safest path forward. Thanks for framing this as education rather than just a financial disaster - that mindset shift actually helps a lot.

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Harmony Love

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I wanted to add that getting an EIN is super easy these days. You can do it online at the IRS website and get your EIN immediately. It's free and takes maybe 15 minutes tops. Here's the link: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/apply-for-an-employer-identification-number-ein-online Don't waste money on those "EIN services" that charge you for something you can do yourself for free. Just make sure you have your LLC formation docs handy because they'll ask for the formation date and state.

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Rudy Cenizo

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I tried the online application last week and it wouldn't work for me for some reason. Kept getting an error when I submitted. Is there a certain time of day that's better?

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From personal experience, you absolutely want to set up proper business banking from day one. I made the mistake of using a personal account for my first few months of LLC operations and it became a nightmare during tax season - trying to separate business expenses from personal ones was incredibly time-consuming. Regarding the EIN vs SSN question: while you CAN use your SSN for a single-member LLC, I'd strongly recommend getting an EIN anyway. It's free, takes 15 minutes online, and makes everything smoother with banks. Plus, you'll need it eventually if you ever hire employees or change your tax election. Don't let the banking decision hold up getting paid! Most banks can set up a business account quickly once you have your LLC docs and EIN. Credit unions are often faster and cheaper than big banks for small business accounts. The key is keeping those business transactions completely separate from personal ones to maintain your liability protection.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about your experience with credit unions - did you find they were more flexible about the documentation requirements? I'm still waiting on some of my LLC paperwork to be finalized and wondering if I should wait or if there are banks that might work with incomplete docs. Also, when you mention it became a nightmare during tax season, was it just the time spent categorizing transactions, or were there actual compliance issues with mixing the accounts? I'm trying to understand if using a personal account temporarily could create real problems beyond just inconvenience.

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I went through this exact same process about 6 months ago and totally understand the anxiety! The good news is that it's really not as scary as it seems at first. I called the number on my 5747C letter and yes, the wait time was brutal - about 2.5 hours on hold - but once I got through, the actual verification was pretty straightforward. The agent asked me to confirm basic info like my address, filing status, and some line items from my current and prior year returns. They also asked about my employer and a few specific deductions I claimed. The whole conversation took maybe 20 minutes once I was connected. My refund was issued exactly 6 weeks after the call, which was actually faster than they initially told me to expect. Just make sure you have your tax documents handy when you call - both this year's and last year's returns. The IRS agent was actually pretty helpful and explained that my return was flagged because I had moved states and changed jobs, which created an unusual pattern in their system. Don't stress too much about it - it's really just a verification process to make sure you are who you say you are!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! It's really helpful to hear from someone who's been through this. The 2.5 hour wait time sounds absolutely brutal though - I'm dreading that part. Did you have to stay on the line the whole time or were you able to use speakerphone and do other things while waiting? I'm trying to figure out the best strategy for getting through without losing my mind on hold.

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I definitely used speakerphone and did household chores while waiting! Just make sure your phone is fully charged or plugged in. I also had all my documents organized beforehand so I wouldn't be scrambling when they finally picked up. The hold music is repetitive but at least you know you're still in the queue. Pro tip: call first thing in the morning (like 7 AM sharp when they open) - I've heard the wait times are shorter then, though I called mid-afternoon and still got through eventually.

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I got a 5747C letter about three weeks ago and finally made it through the verification process yesterday. I wanted to share what worked for me since I know how stressful this can be! I tried calling multiple times but kept getting disconnected or couldn't get through at all. Finally decided to schedule an in-person appointment at my local Taxpayer Assistance Center, which was honestly the best decision. The appointment was scheduled for about 10 days out, but the actual process was so much smoother than trying to call. The IRS representative was really professional and walked me through everything step by step. She explained that my letter was triggered because I had claimed the Earned Income Tax Credit for the first time this year after getting a new job. Apparently that's a common trigger for their fraud detection system. I brought my driver's license, Social Security card, current year tax return, last year's return, and all my W-2s. The whole appointment took about 25 minutes, and she was able to verify my identity on the spot. She told me to expect my refund within 6-9 weeks, but honestly just having it resolved felt like a huge weight off my shoulders. If you're struggling with the phone lines, I'd really recommend trying the in-person route if you have a Taxpayer Assistance Center nearby. Much less frustrating than sitting on hold for hours!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a 5747C letter right now and have been dreading the phone calls after hearing about those crazy wait times. I didn't even realize you could schedule in-person appointments - that sounds so much better than being stuck on hold for hours. How did you go about scheduling the appointment? Is there a specific website or do you have to call a different number? And did they give you a list of what documents to bring, or did you just bring everything you thought might be relevant? I want to make sure I'm fully prepared so I don't have to make a second trip.

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