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Sophia Nguyen

What's needed for proving a large cash deposit is a gift?

So I'm trying to figure out what documentation I need for my taxes. My grandmother gave me $15,000 as a gift to help with a down payment on my first house. I deposited it into my account last month, and I know large deposits can raise flags with the IRS. I asked my grandmother for a gift letter, which she provided, but I'm wondering if that's enough proof if I get audited. She mentioned she's under the annual gift tax exclusion amount so she doesn't need to file anything, but I want to make sure I'm covered on my end. Does anyone know what kind of documentation I need to keep? Do I need to declare this on my taxes somehow? I don't want to mess this up and end up with penalties. I've heard horror stories about people getting in trouble for not documenting large deposits properly.

You're on the right track! A gift letter from your grandmother is exactly what you need. Since the gift is under the annual exclusion amount ($17,000 for 2023), your grandmother doesn't need to file a gift tax return, and you don't need to report the gift as income on your tax return. For your own records, keep the gift letter that includes: the amount, date of transfer, statement that it's a gift with no expectation of repayment, and both your signatures. Also save any transfer documentation like bank statements showing the deposit. While the IRS doesn't typically question gifts under the annual exclusion, having this documentation protects you if there are questions during a mortgage application or an audit. The bank might actually be more interested in this documentation than the IRS, as they want to ensure down payment funds aren't actually loans.

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Thanks for the info! Would it matter if the money came from overseas? My uncle wants to gift me money for similar reasons but he lives in Australia. Does that change anything tax-wise?

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Foreign gifts follow mostly the same rules, but there are some additional considerations. For gifts from foreign individuals, the same $17,000 annual exclusion applies. However, if the total of gifts from foreign sources exceeds $100,000 in a year, you would need to report it on Form 3520 (Annual Return to Report Transactions with Foreign Trusts and Receipt of Certain Foreign Gifts). As for documentation, you'd want the same gift letter elements, but I'd recommend keeping additional proof of the transfer, including currency conversion documentation if applicable. Your uncle might want to consult with a tax professional in Australia to understand any reporting requirements on his end.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - if you're using this gift for a home purchase, your mortgage lender will almost certainly require gift documentation regardless of what the IRS requires. When I bought my house last year, my lender needed: 1. A formal gift letter (they had their own template) 2. Bank statements showing the money leaving the gifter's account 3. Bank statements showing the money entering my account 4. A signed statement that the gift was not a loan requiring repayment The lender was WAY more concerned about this documentation than the IRS ever would be. Just something to keep in mind if this is for a home purchase!

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Is there a time limit on how long the gift needs to be in your account before applying for a mortgage? My parents want to gift me money but I won't be house hunting for another 6 months.

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Most lenders like to see the gift funds "seasoned" in your account for at least two months before you apply for a mortgage. After that time, the funds are generally considered part of your own assets. If the funds are newer than two months when you apply, that's when all the gift documentation becomes critical. If you'll have the money for 6+ months before applying, you may face fewer documentation requirements, but I'd still keep all the gift documentation just in case. Different lenders have different policies, so this can vary somewhat.

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Not to add more worry, but make sure you're also thinking about your state's tax laws! I had a similar gift situation, and while the federal gift tax rules were straightforward, my state (Minnesota) has different thresholds and requirements.

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Good point! Which states actually have gift taxes? I thought it was just federal.

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Great question about state gift taxes! Only a handful of states actually have their own gift tax laws separate from federal. Connecticut and Minnesota are the main ones that come to mind, though the rules and thresholds can be different from federal. Most states don't have gift taxes at all - they just follow federal rules. But it's definitely worth checking your specific state's tax code or consulting with a local tax professional if you're dealing with larger gifts. For a $15,000 gift like the original poster mentioned, it would likely be under most state thresholds anyway, but always good to double-check! The state tax implications are usually much less of a concern than getting the federal documentation right.

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Thanks for clarifying the state tax situation! I was getting worried there might be additional complications I hadn't considered. It's reassuring to know that most states just follow federal rules. Since I'm in California, I'm assuming we don't have separate gift tax requirements, but I'll double-check just to be safe. The $15,000 gift should be well under any thresholds anyway, but better to verify than assume. Has anyone here dealt with California specifically? I'd rather not have any surprises when I file my taxes next year!

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California doesn't have a separate gift tax - you're good there! California follows federal gift tax rules, so as long as you're compliant federally (which you are with the $15,000 gift), there are no additional state requirements. I just went through this exact situation in California last year with a $20,000 gift from my parents for my house down payment. The only documentation I needed was the gift letter and bank statements showing the transfer, just like others have mentioned here. One tip specific to California home buyers - if you're planning to use this gift for a down payment, some of the state's first-time homebuyer programs have their own gift documentation requirements that can be slightly different from standard lender requirements. But for tax purposes, you're all set with just following federal guidelines. Keep that gift letter and your bank statements, and you'll be fine come tax time!

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That's super helpful to know about California! I'm actually looking into some of the state's first-time homebuyer programs, so I appreciate the heads up about potentially different documentation requirements. Do you happen to remember which programs had different requirements? I'm specifically looking at the CalHFA MyHome Assistance Program and want to make sure I'm prepared with the right paperwork when the time comes. It's such a relief to know that at least the tax side is straightforward - one less thing to stress about in an already complicated home buying process!

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