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Has anyone tried just using an SSN instead of an ITIN on the W9? I'm in a similar situation and my cousin told me I could just apply for an SSN instead since the process is supposedly easier.

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NO! Please don't do this! You can only get an SSN if you're authorized to work in the US. Using incorrect information on a W9 can cause huge problems with the IRS. If you're not eligible for an SSN, you absolutely need to get an ITIN instead.

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Thanks for the warning! I definitely don't want to cause issues with the IRS. My cousin probably didn't understand the difference since he's a citizen and got his SSN automatically. I'll stick with the ITIN application process even though it seems more complicated.

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I went through this exact same situation with Chase about 6 months ago! The key thing that helped me was being proactive with communication. As soon as I submitted my W-7 form for the ITIN application, I called Chase's customer service and explained the situation. They were actually pretty understanding once I explained that I was a new resident who needed an ITIN for banking purposes but wasn't earning US income yet. The representative put a note on my account and extended my deadline to 90 days instead of 30. One tip that really helped: when you submit your ITIN application, ask the IRS (or your Certifying Acceptance Agent if you use one) for a receipt or acknowledgment letter. Chase accepted this as proof that I was actively working on getting my ITIN, which stopped the threatening letters. Also, make sure to keep detailed records of all your communications with both Chase and the IRS throughout this process. It'll save you headaches later if there are any mix-ups!

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Mei Wong

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in the exact same boat as the original poster - just moved here on a resident visa and Chase is asking for my W9. I was panicking about the 30-day deadline but your experience gives me hope that they'll be reasonable about extending it. Did you have to call multiple times to get someone who understood the situation, or was the first representative helpful? I'm worried about getting someone on the phone who doesn't know about ITIN applications and just tells me I have to provide the W9 no matter what. Also, when you got your ITIN and finally submitted the W9, did everything go smoothly with Chase or did you run into any of the processing issues that Jeremiah mentioned earlier?

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How Does Moving Between States Impact RSU Taxation? Understanding Multi-State Tax Implications for Equity Compensation

I just received this memo from my company's HR department that has me completely freaked out about my potential move plans: Starting January 2025, employees working in the United States who relocate between states can expect to be taxed in ALL states where they worked from the time their equity award was granted through each vesting date. To comply with state tax regulations, your stock compensation will be taxed based on: Your work locations recorded in the HR system at the time your grant was issued (new hire grants, promotional grants, etc.) through when your vested compensation is taxed. This doesn't apply to ESPP purchases. For example, if you received a grant while working in Washington and later moved to Texas, your future stock compensation taxes will reflect both Washington and Texas tax requirements, potentially increasing your total tax burden. Your stock compensation will be reported to each applicable state and reflected on your W2. The company recommends consulting with a tax advisor when filing your annual returns. While you'll be taxed in multiple states, you won't necessarily pay the full amount in each state. Your actual tax liability depends on each state's rules - some require tax on the full amount, others prorate based on time spent in the state, and some offer reciprocity where one tax amount is reduced based on taxes paid elsewhere. You'll likely need to file returns in all states where you've worked. I'm currently in Colorado and considering relocating to California for about 18 months. I have a 4-year RSU grant from November 2024 that starts vesting in November 2025. If I understand this correctly, even this temporary move could haunt my taxes for years? If I move to California, will my entire four-year grant be subject to California taxes even though I'll only be there temporarily? When I return to Colorado, will I be paying double taxes on everything? Has anyone dealt with this interstate RSU taxation issue? I'm completely blindsided and can't find much information online. My friends at other tech companies haven't mentioned anything similar. Is this unique to my company or a new tax regulation I'm unaware of?

Donna Cline

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Has anyone used services like Taxr.ai or Claimyr in conjunction with TurboTax or H&R Block? I'm trying to decide if I need to bite the bullet and pay for a CPA this year because of my RSU situation. I moved from Washington to Texas midway through my vesting schedule and I'm worried about messing up the allocation.

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I wouldn't try to handle multi-state RSU taxation with TurboTax. I tried last year after moving from New York to Florida and it was a disaster. The software doesn't handle the nuances of RSU sourcing rules well at all. I ended up having to file an amended return after my employer sent a corrected W-2 with different state allocations. I'd recommend using taxr.ai to get the proper allocation documentation and then taking that to a CPA who specializes in equity compensation. The peace of mind is worth the extra cost, especially when you consider the potential penalties if you get it wrong.

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Donna Cline

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Thanks for the advice. That's pretty much what I was afraid of - that TurboTax wouldn't be sophisticated enough for this situation. I'll look into finding a specialized CPA. Did you end up owing a lot more after the amended return, or was it just allocated differently?

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Sara Unger

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I went through a very similar situation when I moved from Oregon to California temporarily for work. The key thing to understand is that your company's memo is actually being conservative and accurate - this is standard practice, not something unique to your employer. Here's what I learned from my experience: California will indeed claim taxation rights on RSUs based on your work location during the vesting period, but it's proportional. Since you're only planning to be there for 18 months out of your 4-year vesting schedule, roughly 37.5% of your total RSU value would be subject to California taxation. The good news is that you won't be double-taxed on the same income. Both Colorado and California have provisions to prevent true double taxation through tax credits. You'll likely end up paying whichever state has the higher tax rate on that income, but not both rates combined. My advice: definitely consult with a tax professional before making the move. They can help you understand the exact implications and potentially time your move strategically. Also, keep meticulous records of your work locations and dates - this documentation will be crucial for proper tax allocation and could save you thousands if there are any disputes later.

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Maya Lewis

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This is really helpful context! I'm curious about the timing aspect you mentioned. Since my first vesting event is in November 2025 and I'm considering moving to California early in 2025, would it make sense to delay the move until after that first vest? Or does California's sourcing method mean they'd still claim a portion even if I move after the first vesting date? I'm trying to figure out if there's a meaningful difference between moving in February 2025 vs December 2025 from a tax perspective.

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Chloe Martin

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Just wanted to share my experience with this exact same issue! I'm an HR manager at a mid-sized company and we actually discovered we had been making this mistake for about 18 months before our payroll vendor caught it during an audit. What happened was our payroll system had HSA contributions configured as "pre-tax for income tax only" instead of "pre-tax for all taxes including FICA." It's a surprisingly common setup error because the system defaults aren't always correct, and many payroll administrators don't realize there's a distinction. When we discovered the error, we had to issue W-2c forms to about 40 employees and process refunds for the overpaid Medicare taxes. The total overpayment per employee wasn't huge (usually $30-80 depending on their HSA contribution amount), but it was definitely real money that people deserved back. If anyone is dealing with an unresponsive employer on this issue, you might mention that the employer also owes matching Medicare tax refunds to the IRS - so they actually have a financial incentive to fix it properly rather than just ignoring it. That usually gets their attention pretty quickly!

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This is such valuable insight from the employer side! It's really helpful to understand that this often comes down to a simple system configuration issue rather than intentional misreporting. The point about the employer owing matching Medicare tax refunds is brilliant - that definitely gives them skin in the game to fix it quickly rather than dragging their feet. Do you have any advice on the best way to approach HR/payroll departments about this? Like what specific language or documentation tends to get the fastest response when employees bring these issues forward?

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Sasha Reese

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As a former payroll specialist who dealt with these Section 125 configuration issues regularly, I'd recommend being very specific in your initial communication with HR/payroll. Don't just say "my W-2 is wrong" - that could mean anything and often gets put in a pile. Instead, try something like: "My HSA contributions made through payroll deduction under our Section 125 cafeteria plan are incorrectly included in Box 5 (Medicare wages) on my W-2. Per IRS Publication 969 and IRC Section 125, these contributions should be excluded from all FICA taxes including Medicare. This appears to be a payroll system configuration error that may affect other employees as well." The key phrases that usually get immediate attention are "Section 125 cafeteria plan," "IRS Publication 969," and especially "may affect other employees." That last part is crucial because it signals this could be a systemic issue requiring broader correction, which makes it a priority for the payroll department rather than a one-off employee complaint. Also, if you have access to your pay stubs, include one that shows the HSA deduction coded as pre-tax. This gives them concrete documentation to reference when they're troubleshooting their system setup.

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Avery Davis

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This is exactly the kind of detailed, actionable advice I was hoping to find! The specific language template you provided is incredibly helpful - it shows you understand the technical aspects while making it clear this could be a broader issue they need to address. I really appreciate you mentioning the pay stub documentation too, since that gives them something concrete to work with when they're trying to figure out how their system is configured. As someone who's never had to deal with payroll errors before, having this kind of step-by-step guidance makes the whole process feel much more manageable. Thank you!

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I'm dealing with code 474 on my transcript right now too, and reading through everyone's experiences here has been really reassuring. It's frustrating when you're waiting for money you need, especially for medical expenses like you mentioned. From what I've gathered from this thread and my own research, the key things to remember are: • This is specifically for Injured Spouse processing - your refund is being manually reviewed to separate what belongs to each spouse • The timeline is typically 11-14 weeks from filing, though some people have reported shorter or longer waits • The IRS won't provide much communication during this time, which is the most stressful part One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned much - if you filed jointly but didn't submit Form 8379 (Injured Spouse Allocation), definitely call the IRS to make sure this code isn't an error. Sometimes returns get flagged incorrectly. Also, since you mentioned medical expenses, you might want to contact the Taxpayer Advocate Service if you're facing financial hardship. They can sometimes help expedite processing in urgent situations, though there's no guarantee. Hang in there - the waiting is brutal but you will get your portion of the refund eventually!

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Mason Kaczka

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This is such a helpful summary of everyone's experiences! I'm also dealing with code 474 right now and it's been about 9 weeks since I filed. The lack of communication from the IRS during this process is definitely the worst part - you just have to trust that things are moving along behind the scenes. One thing I learned from calling the IRS (after waiting 2.5 hours on hold) is that they can at least confirm whether your return is still in the injured spouse queue or if it's moved to a different stage. They can't speed it up, but knowing where you stand can provide some peace of mind. @Kyle Wallace - since you re'the original poster, have you been able to get any updates on your specific situation? And thanks to everyone who shared their timelines - it really helps to know what to expect!

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Caleb Stark

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I went through code 474 last year and completely understand your frustration, especially when you're counting on that refund for medical expenses. The waiting period is really tough because there's so little communication from the IRS during the process. Here's what I learned from my experience: • Code 474 means your refund is on hold for Injured Spouse processing - the IRS is manually determining how to split the refund between spouses when there's a debt offset involved • The timeline is typically 11-14 weeks, but I've seen it vary from 8-16 weeks depending on the complexity • Your transcript will update weekly (usually overnight between Sunday-Monday), so checking daily won't show changes • The "Where's My Refund" tool won't be very helpful during this period since your return is in specialized processing A few practical tips: • If you didn't file Form 8379 with your return, call the IRS to verify this isn't an error • Keep records of which income/payments belong to which spouse in case they need documentation • Consider reaching out to the Taxpayer Advocate Service (1-877-777-4778) if your medical expenses create a financial hardship - they may be able to help The lack of updates during this process is maddening, but you will eventually receive your portion of the refund. In my case, it took 13 weeks and I received about 60% of the original refund amount. Hang in there!

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This is such a comprehensive breakdown - thank you! I'm curious about your mention of receiving 60% of the original refund. For those of us new to this process, is there a way to estimate what percentage we might receive, or does it really just depend on how the income and payments are allocated between spouses? I'm trying to plan my budget while waiting and any insight on typical splits would be helpful.

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Has anyone worked with a qualified personal residence trust (QPRT) instead of a regular irrevocable trust? I'm wondering if the basis rules are different with that structure.

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Cedric Chung

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With a QPRT, the basis rules are indeed different. When you transfer your home to a QPRT, you retain the right to live in it for a specified term of years. After that term, the home passes to your beneficiaries. The basis rules for a QPRT generally don't include a step-up. Your beneficiaries will typically receive your adjusted basis in the property (original cost plus improvements). This is one downside of QPRTs compared to other strategies - they're great for removing future appreciation from your estate, but they don't provide the step-up benefit.

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Miguel Silva

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This is such an important consideration that many people overlook when setting up irrevocable trusts! I made this mistake with my father's trust several years ago - we didn't properly structure it as a grantor trust, so when we sold his property after his passing, we ended up with a much higher capital gains tax bill than expected. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given: make sure your estate planning attorney specifically includes language in the trust that retains certain powers for your mom (like the power to substitute assets of equal value, or administrative powers) that will ensure grantor trust status under IRC Section 675. These powers don't affect the irrevocable nature for estate planning purposes but are crucial for maintaining the step-up in basis. Also, consider having the trust document reviewed periodically. Tax laws can change, and you want to make sure the trust continues to qualify for the tax treatment you're expecting. The potential tax savings from getting the step-up in basis (in your case, potentially avoiding capital gains on over $245,000 of appreciation) is definitely worth the extra planning effort upfront!

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Ella Cofer

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This is really valuable advice about the specific IRC Section 675 powers! I'm just starting to learn about trust planning and hadn't realized how important these technical details are. When you say "power to substitute assets of equal value" - does that mean your mom could potentially swap the house for other assets of similar value while she's still alive? And would that affect the stepped-up basis treatment? Also, do you have any recommendations for finding an estate planning attorney who really understands these grantor trust nuances? It seems like this is a pretty specialized area where the details really matter for the tax outcomes.

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