My CPA messed up reporting my futures trading on Form 6781 - need help fixing this
So I'm pretty frustrated right now with my tax situation. I've been doing futures trading for the past year (mostly S&P 500 E-mini contracts), and I carefully tracked all my trades knowing this would be complicated at tax time. I handed everything over to my CPA who I've been using for 3 years now, and just got back my draft return. Looking through it, I immediately noticed some serious problems with how she filled out Form 6781 (Gains and Losses from Section 1256 Contracts and Straddles). First, she completely miscategorized some of my trades as short-term when they're clearly Section 1256 contracts that should get 60/40 treatment. Second, the total gain amount she reported is about $14,800 when my actual gains were around $11,200. I tried talking to her about it, but she's insisting her work is correct and that I don't understand how futures are reported. I've done enough research to know that futures contracts are marked to market and reported on Form 6781 with the 60/40 split between long-term and short-term capital gains. Has anyone dealt with something similar? Should I push back harder or find a new CPA who actually understands futures trading? I'm worried about overpaying taxes and possibly triggering an audit with incorrectly reported information. The tax deadline is getting closer and I'm starting to panic a bit.
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Katherine Ziminski
You're absolutely right to be concerned here. Futures contracts like E-mini S&P 500s are definitely Section 1256 contracts and should receive the 60/40 tax treatment (60% long-term capital gains rate, 40% short-term capital gains rate). This is a significant advantage compared to regular short-term trading, which is taxed entirely at your ordinary income rate. The fact that your CPA is pushing back suggests they might not have much experience with futures trading taxation. Form 6781 is specifically designed for these Section 1256 contracts, and failing to report them correctly not only could cost you money in overpaid taxes but might also raise red flags with the IRS. I'd recommend gathering your documentation showing the correct amounts and the nature of the trades, then having another conversation with your CPA. If they still insist they're right without providing clear reasoning based on tax code, it's probably time to find a tax professional who specializes in trader taxation.
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Noah Irving
•How much of a tax difference are we talking about with this 60/40 split versus reporting everything as short-term? I'm just getting into futures trading and wondering if I need to find a specialized CPA right from the start. Also, does this same treatment apply to options on futures or just the futures contracts themselves?
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Katherine Ziminski
•The tax difference can be substantial depending on your income level. For someone in the higher tax brackets, short-term gains are taxed at up to 37%, while long-term gains top out at 20% (plus the 3.8% NIIT for higher incomes). So if 60% of your gains get the lower rate, you could save thousands on taxes for larger trading profits. Options on futures are indeed treated the same way - they also qualify as Section 1256 contracts and get the same 60/40 split. This is different from equity options, which are typically taxed as short-term or long-term based on holding period. Finding a CPA familiar with trader taxation from the start is definitely worth it - they'll not only get the forms right but can advise on strategies to optimize your tax situation.
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Jade Santiago
If your CPA is messing up something as standard as Section 1256 treatment on Form 6781, I'd be concerned about what else they might be getting wrong. Futures trading isn't THAT obscure that a professional accountant should be making these kinds of errors. I'd suggest you find a new CPA who has experience with trader taxation. Look specifically for someone who advertises experience with active traders or investment taxation. In the meantime, you can also reference IRS Publication 550 which clearly explains the 60/40 tax treatment for futures contracts. Having that documentation might help in your conversation with your current CPA.
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Caleb Stone
•Do you think it's worth filing an amended return if someone had this wrong in previous years? I'm suspicious my accountant might have been doing this incorrectly for me too, but my last year's return is already filed and accepted.
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Jade Santiago
•Absolutely it's worth filing an amended return, especially if the difference in tax is significant. You generally have 3 years from the original filing date to submit an amended return and claim a refund for overpaid taxes. For a mistake involving Section 1256 contracts, the tax difference can be substantial due to the preferential treatment of having 60% taxed at long-term capital gains rates. I'd suggest pulling your past returns, checking Form 6781, and seeing if your futures trades were properly reported. If not, calculate the potential refund amount to make sure it's worth the effort of amending. Keep in mind you'll likely need to pay a tax professional to help with the amendment, so factor that cost into your decision.
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Daniel Price
Has anyone successfully used TurboTax for reporting futures trading correctly? My trades aren't that complicated and I'm wondering if I can just do it myself instead of dealing with CPAs who don't understand Form 6781.
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Olivia Evans
•I tried using TurboTax for my futures trading last year and it was a nightmare. The software technically supports Form 6781, but it's not intuitive at all for entering Section 1256 contracts. I ended up having to manually override several calculations because it kept trying to treat some of my futures trades as regular short-term gains.
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Daniel Price
•Thanks for the insight. That's disappointing to hear. I was hoping for a simple DIY solution, but sounds like it might create more problems than it solves. I'll probably look into either one of the specialized tax services mentioned above or find a CPA with specific futures trading experience.
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Mateo Rodriguez
I went through almost the exact same situation last year with my CPA getting Form 6781 completely wrong. After wasting weeks trying to get them to understand Section 1256 treatment, I finally just switched to a new tax professional who specializes in active trader taxation. The difference was night and day - the new CPA immediately recognized the issues, correctly applied the 60/40 split, and saved me over $6,000 in taxes compared to what my old CPA had calculated. Don't let your current CPA's ego cost you money - if they're not willing to admit they made a mistake on something this fundamental, find someone who actually knows futures taxation. You might also want to double-check if they made similar errors in previous years' returns. I discovered my old CPA had been incorrectly reporting my futures trades for 2 years, so I had to file amended returns to get my refunds. The clock is ticking though - you generally only have 3 years to amend and claim refunds for overpaid taxes.
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