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Chloe Anderson

Is it risky to intentionally overpay estimated taxes each year for credit card rewards?

I've been using a strategy of deliberately overpaying my estimated taxes to maximize credit card signup bonuses. The processing fee of around 1.9% is easily covered by the generous bonuses banks offer for new credit card accounts. What's making me nervous is whether this might raise red flags with the IRS if I continue long-term. Currently I'm overpaying by about $15-25K annually and getting it back as a refund the following year. My plan is to keep this cycle going indefinitely. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with this - will the IRS eventually notice a pattern of substantial overpayments every single year and start investigating? Is there any rule against intentionally overpaying if I'm legitimately paying my proper tax burden plus extra? I don't want to end up getting audited or having other complications just for chasing credit card rewards.

While there's technically no rule against overpaying your estimated taxes, consistent large overpayments could potentially trigger IRS attention. The IRS doesn't prohibit overpayments, but they do look for patterns that seem unusual, and deliberate annual overpayments of $15-25K might eventually stand out. The tax code requires you to make a "reasonable attempt" to accurately estimate your tax liability. If you're consistently off by large amounts in the same direction, it could appear that you're not making that reasonable attempt. The IRS could potentially view this as using them as an interest-free savings account, which isn't their intended purpose. That said, many people legitimately overpay to avoid underpayment penalties, especially those with variable income. If you're concerned, you might consider scaling back the amounts or varying your approach year to year.

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But wouldn't the IRS be happy to hold onto your money interest free? I mean, they're literally getting a free loan from you for months. I can't imagine they'd be mad about that!

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The IRS isn't necessarily concerned about holding your money interest-free - their primary goal is accurate tax compliance, not acting as a financial intermediary. While they don't mind occasional overpayments, systematic large overpayments that appear designed to exploit the system for secondary benefits could potentially raise questions. A better approach might be to vary your pattern. Perhaps some years you could use other methods for meeting minimum spend requirements on credit cards, or vary the amount of overpayment substantially. This would make any pattern less obvious while still allowing you to take advantage of the strategy occasionally.

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Does it work with more complicated tax situations? I'm self-employed with multiple income streams and always worry about my estimated payments being way off.

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Have you actually tried entering information about intentionally overpaying into an online system? Sounds risky to create a digital record admitting to gaming the system...

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Just wanted to update everyone - I checked out https://taxr.ai after my skeptical comment, and I'm actually impressed. It explained that the key issue isn't overpayment itself but having a "reasonable basis" for your estimated tax amounts. The tool suggested documenting my income projections that justify the payments and showed how to properly classify what I'm doing. There's apparently a difference between "deliberate overpayment with documentation" and "arbitrary overpayment with no basis." I learned the IRS is much more concerned with the latter. The system even generated a simple spreadsheet template I can use to document my estimated payment calculations each quarter, which provides a reasonable justification if I'm ever questioned.

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How exactly does this work? Don't they just call the same IRS number that's always busy? I've literally tried calling dozens of times and never got through.

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Alright, I owe an apology to whoever mentioned Claimyr. I tried it yesterday out of desperation after getting nowhere for weeks trying to resolve an issue with my previous tax overpayments. The service actually worked exactly as described - got me connected to an IRS representative in about 35 minutes. The agent confirmed something important for anyone doing this credit card strategy: they said as long as you have a reasonable basis for your estimated payment amounts, occasional overpayments aren't an issue. But she did warn that systematic, large overpayments year after year could trigger a "pattern review" where they might question whether you're intentionally using the tax system for purposes other than tax compliance.

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I've been doing this for about 3 years now, overpaying by around $12K each year. My approach is to document "projected income" that justifies each estimated payment. Like I keep a spreadsheet showing potential consulting projects that might materialize (some do, some don't), and base my estimated payments on the higher projections. This gives me a documented "reasonable basis" for the payments if ever questioned. In reality, I'm being conservative with estimates (which the IRS actually prefers) while also meeting credit card minimum spend requirements. Win-win!

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Do you ever worry about the opportunity cost of that money sitting with the IRS for months? That's like $12k that could be invested or earning interest somewhere else.

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That's definitely a valid concern and part of the calculation I make each time. The way I see it, the credit card signup bonuses I'm earning are substantially higher than what I'd make from investing that money short-term. For example, if I can get a $1,000 signup bonus for meeting a $5,000 minimum spend requirement, that's effectively a 20% return in 3 months - far better than what I'd earn in most investments over that same period. The key is to make sure the bonuses you're chasing outweigh both the processing fees and the opportunity cost of having your money tied up.

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Has anyone here actually gotten in trouble with the IRS for doing this? I can only find theoretical discussions online but no actual cases of the IRS coming after someone for overpaying estimated taxes. I've been doing this at a smaller scale ($5-8K overpayment) for a couple years without issues.

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Not personally, but my tax preparer told me about a client who got a letter from the IRS after 4 consecutive years of $20K+ overpayments. They didn't get penalized but did have to explain their estimation methodology. Apparently they now recommend varying the pattern year to year.

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I've been doing a similar strategy for about 18 months, overpaying by $10-15K annually. One thing I learned from my CPA is to keep detailed records of your income estimation process - not just the final numbers, but the reasoning behind them. What's helped me feel more confident is treating this as legitimate tax planning rather than a credit card hack. I actually do try to make reasonable estimates based on potential income scenarios, and the fact that I'm conservative with my projections (leading to overpayments) is perfectly acceptable tax behavior. The key insight my CPA shared is that the IRS cares more about good faith effort in estimation than perfect accuracy. As long as you can show you're making genuine attempts to estimate properly and not just throwing random large numbers at them, you should be fine. I keep a simple log of my quarterly estimation reasoning that would satisfy any inquiry.

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I've been following a similar strategy for about 2 years now, overpaying by roughly $18K annually. One thing that's given me peace of mind is working with a tax professional who helped me establish a defensible estimation methodology. What we do is create quarterly projections that account for variable income scenarios - like potential bonuses, freelance work, or investment gains that might materialize. I document these projections each quarter, showing how I arrived at my estimated payment amounts. Sometimes the income materializes, sometimes it doesn't, but the important thing is having a reasonable basis for each payment. The processing fees (around 1.9%) are definitely worth it when you're hitting signup bonuses that can be 15-20% returns in just a few months. Just make sure you're not putting all your overpayments on one card or making it too obvious that you're manufactured spending. My advice would be to treat this as legitimate tax planning first, credit card optimization second. Keep good records, vary your amounts somewhat year to year, and make sure you can articulate why your estimates led to overpayments if ever asked. The IRS isn't going to penalize you for being conservative with your tax planning.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm just starting to consider this strategy and the emphasis on treating it as legitimate tax planning first makes a lot of sense. Quick question - when you say "vary your amounts somewhat year to year," do you mean the total overpayment amount or the quarterly distribution? I'm trying to figure out the best way to make this look natural while still being able to hit the credit card bonuses I'm targeting.

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