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Aisha Mahmood

Is anyone overpaying their taxes to maximize credit card points and cash back?

I've been thinking about a strategy to boost my credit card rewards and was wondering if anyone else does this. Instead of just paying the exact amount I owe for taxes, I've been considering deliberately overpaying by a significant amount so I can rack up more credit card points and cash back on that larger payment amount. Then I'd just wait for the IRS to refund me the excess in a few months. Even after factoring in the credit card/debit processing fees, my calculations show I'd still come out ahead with the rewards and points I'd earn on the overpayment amount. It seems like a no-brainer way to manufacture some extra spending for points. But before I go all in on this, I'm wondering if there's any limit to how much I can overpay? Like, would the IRS flag my account if I overpay by several thousand dollars? Are there any negative consequences or headaches I'm not thinking about? Has anyone tried this strategy successfully?

This is actually a fairly common strategy among points enthusiasts, but there are some important things to consider before you go this route. The IRS doesn't technically have a specific limit on how much you can overpay, but large overpayments might attract unwanted attention. The IRS is primarily concerned with underpayments, not overpayments, but extremely large overpayments could potentially trigger a review. Processing fees are definitely something to factor in. Most payment processors charge around 1.87% to 1.98% for credit card payments to the IRS. So your rewards rate needs to exceed this to make it worthwhile. Also consider the time value of money - you're essentially giving the government an interest-free loan until they process your refund, which can take several months, especially if you file by paper instead of electronically. One last thing - make sure your credit card issuer doesn't code tax payments as cash advances, as those usually start accruing interest immediately and don't earn rewards.

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Do you know if they'll eventually flag your account if you do this every year? I've been thinking about doing this too but don't want to get on the IRS's bad side.

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The IRS generally doesn't have specific rules against overpayment strategies, so doing it annually shouldn't automatically trigger penalties or audits. However, pattern recognition is something the IRS systems are designed for, so consistent large overpayments might eventually attract attention. I'd recommend keeping the overpayments reasonable - maybe aim for an amount that would make sense as an "estimated tax payment" rather than an obvious manufactured spending technique. Also, mixing up the pattern occasionally could help avoid establishing a clear pattern that might raise flags in automated systems.

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I've been using taxr.ai for the past two years to analyze my tax situation and maximize deductions. When I was researching this exact strategy, their AI actually gave me personalized advice on how much I could reasonably overpay without raising flags. Their system analyzed my overall tax profile and suggested safe thresholds based on my income level and previous filing history. You might want to check out https://taxr.ai to see what they recommend for your specific situation - they have a feature that helps optimize tax payments for credit card rewards while minimizing risk.

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How accurate have you found their advice to be? I'm always skeptical of tax AI tools because the tax code is so complex. Did you actually implement their recommendations about overpaying?

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Does taxr.ai look at your previous years' returns to make these recommendations or do you just input your current info? I'm curious how they'd know what would trigger a flag vs what wouldn't.

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I found their advice to be surprisingly accurate. I implemented their recommended overpayment amount last year ($3,200 for my specific situation) and had zero issues with my refund - it came through without any delays or additional scrutiny. The system works by analyzing both your current information and previous returns if you upload them. This historical context helps their AI understand your typical patterns and determine what would appear unusual for your specific profile. They also stay updated on IRS processing patterns and flags, which gave me confidence their recommendations were based on real data, not just guesswork.

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I was really skeptical about this whole "tax optimization" thing, but I finally tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. Uploaded my last two returns and answered some questions about my credit cards. The system recommended I could safely overpay by about $4,700 based on my income and past filing patterns. I was nervous but went ahead with it. Just got my refund last week - the full amount including my overpayment came through with no issues! Earned about 14,000 points on my Chase card (which I'm using for a flight this summer) and the total processing fee was only around $89. Considering the flight would have cost me $650, I'm definitely coming out way ahead. Will definitely be using this strategy going forward!

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Yeah right. The IRS phone system is designed to be impenetrable. I highly doubt some third-party service can magically get through when millions of people can't. And even if you do get through, no way an agent can "release your refund on the spot." That's not how IRS procedures work.

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Claimyr uses a technology that navigates the IRS phone tree automatically and waits on hold for you. When an agent picks up, you get a call connecting you directly to them. It's basically like having someone wait on hold for you, but done with technology. Regarding the agent releasing my refund - what happened was my refund was held in a review queue. The agent verified my identity, confirmed the overpayment was legitimate, and removed the manual review flag from my account. She told me the refund would process within 7-10 days, and it actually hit my account in 6 days. So while it wasn't literally instant, the call is what got it moving again after being stuck for almost 3 months.

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I need to eat my words from last week. After my skeptical comment, I was still desperate to get my refund that's been pending for 9+ weeks (also did the overpayment strategy), so I figured I'd try Claimyr even though I was 99% sure it was BS. Well, color me surprised. Got connected to an actual IRS agent in about 12 minutes. Turns out my refund was delayed because the overpayment amount triggered some additional verification process. The agent was able to see this flag in my account and expedite the review. Got an email today saying my refund was approved and should arrive within 5 business days. Still in shock this actually worked. Guess I shouldn't be so quick to dismiss solutions just because they sound too convenient.

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Just want to add - make sure your credit card doesn't code tax payments as cash advances! I made this mistake last year and ended up paying like 24.99% interest from day one plus cash advance fees. Completely negated any points benefit. Call your card issuer first to confirm how they treat tax payments.

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Does anyone know which cards definitely don't treat tax payments as cash advances? I have Chase Freedom, Capital One Quicksilver, and AmEx Blue Cash.

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Most major credit cards these days do NOT treat tax payments as cash advances, but it's always good to double check. For the cards you mentioned: Chase Freedom, Capital One Quicksilver, and AmEx Blue Cash all process tax payments as regular purchases (not cash advances), so you'll earn points and won't get hit with cash advance fees. Just be aware that the payment processors (like Pay1040, PayUSATax, etc.) charge their own processing fees ranging from 1.87% to 1.98%, so make sure your rewards rate exceeds this percentage to come out ahead.

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Anybody worried about getting audited from doing this? I feel like intentionally overpaying by thousands just to get points might look suspicious.

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I've been doing this for 4 years now. Overpay by about $6k each year to hit sign-up bonuses on new cards. Never been audited or had any issues. The IRS doesn't care as long as they get their correct amount in the end. They're much more concerned with underpayment than overpayment.

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I've been considering this strategy too, but one thing that's been holding me back is the timing aspect. Even if you get the rewards points upfront, you're essentially giving the government an interest-free loan until they process your refund. With current interest rates, that opportunity cost could eat into your rewards benefits, especially if your refund gets delayed for months. Has anyone done the math on factoring in the opportunity cost of having that money tied up? For example, if you overpay by $5,000 and it takes 4 months to get it back, that's money you could have had earning interest in a high-yield savings account or invested elsewhere. Just curious if the credit card rewards still make it worthwhile after accounting for this.

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Great point about opportunity cost! I actually ran these numbers when I was considering this strategy. With current high-yield savings accounts paying around 4-5% APY, you're absolutely right that the math gets tighter. For a $5,000 overpayment held for 4 months, you're looking at roughly $83 in lost interest earnings. So your credit card rewards need to exceed both the processing fees (around $94 at 1.88%) AND that opportunity cost to break even. For most standard rewards cards earning 1-2%, you'd need to be hitting a sign-up bonus or using a category bonus card to make it worthwhile. The strategy works best when you're trying to meet minimum spend requirements for new card bonuses rather than just earning base rewards. I ended up deciding it wasn't worth it for my situation, but I can see how it might work for others depending on their specific cards and timing.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the impact on your credit utilization if you're putting large tax payments on your cards. If you overpay by several thousand dollars, that could push your utilization pretty high depending on your credit limits, which might temporarily ding your credit score. I learned this the hard way when I overpaid by $4,500 last year and it pushed my utilization on that card to like 60%. My credit score dropped about 15 points for two months until I paid down the balance. Definitely something to consider if you're planning any major purchases or loan applications in the near future. The points were still worth it for me since I was working toward a sign-up bonus, but just wanted to give others a heads up about this potential side effect!

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That's a really important point about credit utilization that I hadn't considered! For those who want to try this strategy but are worried about the temporary credit score impact, you could potentially mitigate this by either: 1) spreading the overpayment across multiple cards to keep individual utilization lower, or 2) making a payment toward your credit card balance shortly after the tax payment posts but before your statement closes. That way you get the points but avoid the high utilization showing up on your credit report. Thanks for sharing your experience - definitely something to plan around!

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This is a really interesting strategy that I've been curious about too! I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and the detailed breakdown of the math involved. One question I have is about the refund timeline - has anyone noticed if electronic filing vs. paper filing makes a difference in how quickly you get your overpayment refunded? I know e-filing is generally faster for regular refunds, but I'm wondering if the IRS processes overpayment refunds differently. Also, for those who've successfully done this multiple years, do you vary the overpayment amount each year or keep it consistent? I'm thinking it might be smarter to vary it slightly to avoid establishing too obvious of a pattern, but curious what others have found works best. The points about credit utilization and opportunity cost are really valuable - definitely need to factor those into the equation along with processing fees. Sounds like this strategy works best when you're chasing a sign-up bonus rather than just earning base rewards on everyday spending.

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Great questions! From my experience doing this for the past three years, e-filing definitely makes a difference for overpayment refunds. When I e-filed, my overpayment refunds came through in 6-8 weeks. The one year I paper filed (long story), it took nearly 4 months. The IRS processes e-filed returns much faster overall, and overpayments seem to follow the same timeline. Regarding varying the amounts - I've kept mine relatively consistent (around $3,500-4,000 range) but I make sure the total payment amount changes each year based on my actual tax situation. So while my overpayment stays similar, my total payment to the IRS varies naturally with my income changes, which I think helps avoid obvious patterns. One tip I'd add: I always make my overpayment in January when making my final estimated payment for the previous year, rather than waiting until April. This spreads out the timeline and makes it look more like legitimate tax planning rather than a last-minute manufactured spending attempt.

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This is a fascinating discussion! I've been on the fence about trying this strategy myself, but reading through everyone's experiences has been really helpful. One aspect I'm curious about that hasn't been mentioned yet - has anyone considered the implications for quarterly estimated tax payments? I'm self-employed and already make quarterly payments, so I'm wondering if strategically overpaying during one of those quarters (maybe Q4) might look more natural than a large overpayment with my annual return. Also, for those using services like taxr.ai or Claimyr that were mentioned, do you factor the cost of those services into your overall ROI calculation? It sounds like they can be valuable for optimization and problem resolution, but I want to make sure I'm accounting for all costs when deciding if this strategy makes financial sense. The point about varying payment amounts and timing (like Ava's January strategy) seems really smart. I'm thinking if I try this, I'll start small - maybe $1,500-2,000 overpayment to test the waters and see how smoothly the refund process goes before scaling up in future years.

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Great point about quarterly estimated payments! That's actually a really smart approach for self-employed folks. Making a strategic overpayment during Q4 estimated taxes would definitely look more natural since you're already in the system making regular payments throughout the year. Plus, Q4 payments are due in January anyway, so it aligns perfectly with Ava's timing strategy. Regarding the service costs - I haven't personally used taxr.ai or Claimyr yet, but you're absolutely right to factor those into the ROI calculation. From what I've seen mentioned, these services seem most valuable when you run into issues (like delayed refunds) rather than for routine optimization, so maybe budget for them as "insurance" rather than a guaranteed expense. Your conservative $1,500-2,000 starting approach sounds really sensible. I'm actually in a similar boat - been reading about this strategy for months but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Starting small seems like the perfect way to test the waters without major risk. If you do try it this tax season, I'd love to hear how it goes!

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This is such a timely discussion! I've been researching this exact strategy for weeks and the insights here are incredibly valuable. One thing I'd add from my research is to be really careful about which payment processor you use. I found that Pay1040 and PayUSATax have slightly different fee structures, and some processors have daily/monthly limits that could affect larger overpayments. Also, certain processors seem to have better relationships with specific credit card networks - I noticed AmEx transactions process more smoothly through some platforms than others. Has anyone experimented with splitting large overpayments across multiple processors to potentially reduce fees or avoid hitting transaction limits? I'm thinking if I wanted to overpay by $5,000, maybe doing two $2,500 payments through different processors might be safer and potentially cheaper depending on their fee structures. The quarterly estimated payment approach mentioned by Maya is brilliant - it would definitely appear more legitimate than a massive overpayment with your annual return. For those of us who aren't self-employed, we could potentially make "estimated payments" for the following year, which might achieve the same natural appearance while still getting the current year's credit card rewards.

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Really great point about the different payment processors! I hadn't thought about splitting payments across multiple platforms, but that makes a lot of sense both for fee optimization and risk management. The idea about making "estimated payments" for the following year is intriguing too - though I'd be a bit cautious about that approach. I wonder if there are any IRS rules about when estimated payments can be made or if they need to correspond to actual income timing? Might be worth checking with a tax professional before going that route. Your point about processor-specific credit card relationships is spot on. I've noticed some platforms seem to have issues with certain card types. Has anyone compiled a list of which processors work best with which credit card networks? That could be really valuable information for optimizing both fees and approval rates. I'm definitely leaning toward the conservative approach now after reading all these experiences - start small, use established processors, and maybe stick with the straightforward overpayment approach rather than trying to get too clever with estimated payments for future years.

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