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Aidan Hudson

Can I earn 7% interest by intentionally overpaying taxes to the IRS?

I noticed that the IRS is currently paying 7% interest on tax overpayments, which seems pretty high compared to what banks offer. According to this table I found while researching: IRS sets and publishes current and prior years interest rates quarterly for individuals and businesses to calculate interest on underpayment and overpayment balances. 2023 Interest Rates by Category 3rd Quarter (Jul – Sep) 2nd Quarter (Apr-Jun) 1st Quarter (Jan–Mar) Non-Corporate overpayment (for example, individual) 7% 7% 7% Tax Overpayment Interest Formulas Type of Interest Applies To Formula Standard Non-Corporate Overpayments Federal short-term rate plus 3 percentage points So I'm wondering... couldn't I just massively overpay my taxes for the next few years and basically use the IRS as a high-yield savings account? It looks like I could earn 2% above market rates with this approach, and maybe the interest wouldn't even be taxable? I see there's a $10,000 limit for corporations (after which the rate drops to federal+0.5), but I don't see any similar caps for individuals. Has anyone tried this or know if there's a catch I'm missing?

This is a creative idea, but there are several reasons why this isn't a good investment strategy. First, the IRS doesn't pay interest on intentional overpayments. They only pay interest when they hold your money longer than 45 days after the filing deadline or the date you actually filed (whichever is later). Also, any interest you receive from the IRS is actually taxable income - you'll receive a 1099-INT if it's over $10. The IRS specifically designs these rates to discourage both underpayment and overpayment, not to create an investment vehicle. Additionally, if the IRS identifies that you're intentionally overpaying to generate interest, they can simply refund your money immediately (within the 45-day window) so no interest accrues, or potentially flag your account for review.

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Wait, so if I accidentally overpay by a lot, and they take 6 months to process my refund, they'll actually pay me interest on that? Does that interest start accruing from the filing deadline or from when the 45 days are up? And what's the current federal short-term rate they're using for this calculation?

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The interest starts accruing after the 45-day window expires. So if you file on April 15, 2025, they have until about June 1st to issue your refund without owing interest. After that date, interest would start accruing. The federal short-term rate changes quarterly. For current calculations it's around 4%, which is why the overpayment rate is 7% (federal short-term + 3%). You can always check the IRS website for the most current rates, as they do adjust based on market conditions.

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I tried something similar to what you're describing last year with taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and learned a lot about how the IRS handles overpayments. I originally thought I could game the system but their tool analyzed my tax documents and showed me why this strategy wouldn't work out in my favor. What the tool explained is that the IRS actually has systems in place to identify unusually large estimated payments or withholdings and can flag those accounts. Plus, the interest isn't compounded like a bank account - it's simple interest calculated on a quarterly basis. When I ran my numbers through taxr.ai, it showed me I'd actually be better off with certain tax-advantaged accounts instead.

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How exactly does this tool work? Does it actually connect to your IRS account or do you just upload your documents? I'm curious because I've had some weird tax situations recently and might need something like this.

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Sounds kinda suspicious tbh. Why would a tax tool specifically tell you not to overpay taxes? Seems like it's just trying to get you to invest elsewhere. The math is pretty simple - if IRS pays 7% and banks pay 5%, you're ahead by 2% minus whatever taxes you pay on the interest.

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The tool lets you upload your tax documents and transcripts, then it analyzes them to identify potential issues or opportunities. No, it doesn't connect to your IRS account - it just helps interpret the information you provide and simulates different scenarios. The reason it advised against the overpayment strategy isn't to push other investments, but because it calculated the actual return after factoring in the limitations. It showed how the IRS can simply issue a refund before interest kicks in, plus any interest you do receive is taxable income, effectively reducing your real return.

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So I actually tried using taxr.ai that was mentioned above and have to admit I was wrong. The tool really helped me understand why the overpayment strategy doesn't work. It analyzed my last year's tax situation and showed that even though I had a $4,800 refund that took 3 months to process, I only received about $70 in interest. The tool explained how the interest calculation works and projected what would happen if I intentionally overpaid. Turns out the IRS has mechanisms to refund suspected intentional overpayments quickly, and they can even assess penalties if they determine you're trying to abuse the system. Plus, since the interest is taxable, my effective rate wasn't anywhere near 7%. I'm actually going to use the tool to look for legitimate tax savings instead.

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Former tax preparer here. There's another important point nobody's mentioned yet. The IRS only pays interest on legitimate overpayments resulting from proper withholding or estimated payments based on your actual tax situation. If they determine you're artificially inflating your payments just to use them as a bank, they can actually assess penalties. Section 6676 of the tax code allows for a 20% penalty on "erroneous claims for refund or credit" - which would wipe out any interest advantage you might theoretically gain. Bottom line: the IRS is not a bank and doesn't want to be used as one.

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Wow, I had no idea they could actually penalize you for this! Do you know if there's any specific threshold or amount that triggers suspicion? I'm not planning to try this "strategy" anymore, but I'm curious if people who accidentally overpay by a lot ever get flagged.

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There's no published threshold that I'm aware of, as that would just give people a target to stay under. Generally, the IRS looks for patterns and unusually large payments compared to your historical tax liability. Accidental overpayments rarely trigger penalties because they're usually proportional to your income or result from legitimate misunderstandings of tax laws. The penalties typically come into play when there's evidence of intentional manipulation - like suddenly making estimated payments of $50,000 when your tax liability has historically been $5,000.

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Has anyone considered that the interest rates might change? The IRS adjusts these quarterly. If the Federal short-term rate drops, so will the overpayment interest rate. So even if this crazy scheme worked (which others have pointed out it doesn't), you'd have no guarantee of keeping that 7% rate for long.

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Good point! It's currently at 7% because interest rates are high generally. Back in 2020-2021, the overpayment interest rate was only 3% because the federal short-term rate was near zero. Definitely not a stable "investment" strategy.

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As someone who works in financial compliance, I wanted to add that the IRS also has sophisticated data analytics that can easily identify patterns inconsistent with normal taxpayer behavior. They cross-reference your payment patterns with income reported on W-2s, 1099s, and previous returns. If you suddenly start making massive estimated payments that don't align with your reported income or business activity, it will trigger automated flags in their system. They can then demand documentation justifying these payments, and if you can't provide legitimate business or income reasons, they'll process an immediate refund - often within days rather than the normal processing time. The system is specifically designed to prevent exactly what you're thinking of doing. Your best bet for earning decent returns is still traditional investment vehicles like I-Bonds, CDs, or high-yield savings accounts that are actually meant for storing money.

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This is really helpful insight from the compliance side! I'm curious - when the IRS flags these unusual payment patterns, do they notify the taxpayer that they're processing an immediate refund, or does the money just show up back in your account unexpectedly? And if someone genuinely has a business reason for large estimated payments (like a consulting contract or stock options), what kind of documentation would they typically want to see?

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@bf2606900b8c That's fascinating about the analytics they use! I had no idea the IRS was that sophisticated with pattern detection. So if I understand correctly, they're essentially looking for payments that don't make sense given your financial profile? I'm wondering - for someone who has legitimate but irregular income (like freelance work or investment gains), is there a way to document expected payments in advance to avoid triggering these flags? Or do you just have to wait and provide documentation after they ask for it? Also, when you mention I-Bonds and CDs as better alternatives - are there any tax-advantaged accounts that might give similar returns without the hassle and risk of dealing with the IRS?

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