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Is Hurricane Ian considered a qualified disaster loss? IRS guidance still unclear

So I'm trying to figure out if Hurricane Ian is considered a qualified disaster loss for tax purposes. I've been looking through all the IRS publications and guidelines, and I'm totally confused. Everything I find only specifically mentions Hurricane Maria but nothing updated about Ian. My beach house in Fort Myers took significant damage last year - lost about $42,000 worth of property and repairs after insurance payouts. My tax person is telling me different things each time we talk about how to claim it. The latest IRS stuff I found still only references Maria specifically. Has anyone successfully claimed Hurricane Ian losses? What documentation did you need? Did you have to use specific forms or was it just part of your regular itemized deductions? I'm hesitant to claim it as a qualified disaster without clear guidance from the IRS, but that's a significant amount I could potentially deduct if it qualifies.

CyberNinja

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Hurricane Ian is absolutely considered a qualified disaster for tax purposes. The IRS issued FEMA declarations that designated Hurricane Ian as a federally declared disaster, which makes losses attributable to it eligible for disaster tax relief provisions. The reason you're seeing Hurricane Maria in older publications is because the IRS doesn't always update all their publications immediately. What matters is the FEMA disaster declaration number, which for Hurricane Ian was DR-4673-FL declared on September 29, 2022. For claiming your loss, you'll need to file Form 4684 (Casualties and Thefts) and potentially Form 4506 if you're amending a previous year's return. Make sure you have documentation showing: 1) Proof of ownership 2) Evidence of the loss amount 3) Insurance claim details including reimbursements 4) Photos/documentation of damage. The $42,000 loss after insurance sounds like it would qualify, assuming it meets the other requirements.

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Mateo Lopez

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What if my hurricane loss was to my rental property, not my primary residence? Does it still qualify in the same way? Also, are there any income limitations to claiming these losses?

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CyberNinja

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Rental properties absolutely qualify for disaster loss treatment. The process is slightly different since rental property losses are reported on Form 4684 Section B (for business/income-producing property) rather than Section A (for personal-use property). The loss will ultimately flow to Schedule E rather than as an itemized deduction. There are no income limitations specifically for claiming qualified disaster losses. This is actually one advantage of the qualified disaster designation - normally casualty losses are subject to both a $100 floor per event and a 10% of AGI limitation, but qualified disaster losses have special rules that may allow you to deduct more of your actual loss. Just make sure you're keeping all documentation related to the damage, insurance claims, and repairs.

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Ethan Davis

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Did they help with figuring out whether to claim the loss in the disaster year or the prior year? I heard you can choose which is more beneficial but I'm confused about how to decide.

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Yuki Tanaka

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They absolutely helped with the year-of-claim decision. They ran the numbers both ways (claiming on 2021 vs 2022 returns) and showed me which would give the better tax benefit. In my case, claiming it on 2021 saved me about $3,800 more because my income was higher that year. No, they don't have IRS agents - they have tax professionals and specialized software that references the actual FEMA disaster declarations. Their system has all the qualified disaster declarations built in, and Hurricane Ian is definitely included with all the proper dates and affected counties. The documentation they provided referenced the specific FEMA disaster number which is what matters to the IRS.

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Carmen Ortiz

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MidnightRider

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Andre Laurent

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Carmen Ortiz

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Andre Laurent

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Just wanted to share my experience - I claimed Hurricane Ian as a qualified disaster loss on my 2022 return. I'm in Lee County Florida and had significant damage to my home. The key is getting the right forms. Use Form 4684 and make sure you check the correct disaster designation. I also included a statement with my return that specifically referenced the FEMA disaster declaration number for Hurricane Ian (DR-4673-FL) and included copies of my insurance claim documentation and contractor estimates. I received my refund without any issues or follow-up questions from the IRS. Just make sure your documentation is solid - photos before/after, all receipts, insurance claim paperwork, etc.

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Did you have to itemize deductions to claim this loss? I usually take the standard deduction but my Hurricane Ian damages were around $15,000 after insurance.

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That's actually one of the benefits of qualified disaster losses - they're not subject to the typical requirement that you itemize. You can take the standard deduction AND still claim the qualified disaster loss as an additional deduction. For your $15,000 loss, you should absolutely claim it even if you're taking the standard deduction. Use Form 4684 and make sure you reference the specific FEMA disaster declaration for Hurricane Ian (DR-4673-FL). The IRS instructions can be confusing on this point, but qualified disaster losses have special treatment compared to regular casualty losses.

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Mei Wong

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Has anyone worked with their tax software on this? I use TurboTax and I can't figure out where to enter Hurricane Ian as a qualified disaster. The casualty loss section keeps asking me if it's from a federally declared disaster but doesn't have a specific option for Ian.

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I used H&R Block software and had the same issue. The key is to select "Yes" when it asks if the loss was from a federally declared disaster, then you need to manually enter "Hurricane Ian - FEMA DR-4673-FL" in the description field. Don't look for a specific dropdown option for Ian - you need to provide the information yourself. Also make sure you have documentation showing you were in the affected area (Lee, Collier, Charlotte counties, etc.) as defined by the FEMA declaration.

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Mei Wong

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Thanks! That makes sense. I was expecting there to be a specific option for Ian in the dropdown menu. I'll manually enter the FEMA disaster declaration info as you suggested. Appreciate the help!

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I went through this exact same situation last year and can confirm Hurricane Ian absolutely qualifies as a federally declared disaster. The confusion about IRS guidance is understandable because they don't always update every publication immediately, but the official FEMA designation is what matters. For your $42,000 loss, you'll want to use Form 4684 (Casualties and Thefts). Since this is a qualified disaster, you have some advantages - you can choose to claim the loss on either your 2021 or 2022 tax return (whichever gives you a better tax benefit). You'll also avoid some of the usual limitations that apply to regular casualty losses. Make sure you have all your documentation organized: insurance claim details, receipts for repairs, photos of damage, and any contractor estimates. The key is showing the loss amount after insurance reimbursements. Given the amount of your loss, I'd strongly recommend getting professional help to make sure you're maximizing your deduction and following all the proper procedures.

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QuantumQueen

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I've been through this exact situation and can add some clarity. Hurricane Ian is definitely a qualified disaster - FEMA disaster declaration DR-4673-FL covers it completely. The IRS publications you're seeing that only mention Hurricane Maria are just outdated - they don't update every single publication immediately after each disaster. For your $42,000 loss, here's what you need to do: File Form 4684 and make sure you reference the FEMA disaster number. Keep all your documentation organized - insurance claims, repair receipts, photos, contractor estimates. The good news is that as a qualified disaster, you can choose to claim this loss on either your 2021 or 2022 return depending on which gives you better tax benefits. One tip that saved me money: run the numbers both ways. In my case, claiming on the prior year (2021) gave me a much better refund because my income was higher that year. With a $42,000 loss, this decision could make a significant difference in your tax benefit. Don't let your tax preparer's confusion cost you money - the guidance is clear once you know where to look.

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Lucas Bey

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This is really helpful information! As someone new to dealing with disaster losses, I'm curious about the timing aspect you mentioned. When you say you can choose to claim the loss on either 2021 or 2022 returns, how do you actually make that choice? Do you need to file an amended return if you want to claim it on the prior year, or can you just decide when you're filing your current return? And is there a deadline for making this decision? I want to make sure I don't miss any opportunities to maximize the tax benefit from my Hurricane Ian losses.

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Mei Liu

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Great question! For the timing choice, you have a few options depending on your situation. If you haven't filed your 2022 return yet, you can choose to claim the Hurricane Ian loss on either your 2021 return (by filing an amended return using Form 1040X) or include it on your 2022 return when you file. If you've already filed your 2022 return, you can still amend either your 2021 or 2022 return to claim the loss - just run the numbers both ways to see which year gives you the better benefit. The general rule is you have 3 years from the original due date of the return to file an amendment. The key is calculating your marginal tax rate for each year and seeing where the deduction provides more value. Higher income years typically mean more tax savings from the same deduction amount. I'd recommend using tax software or working with a professional to run both scenarios - with a $42k loss like the original poster mentioned, this decision could easily be worth thousands in additional refund. Just make sure when you claim it as a qualified disaster loss that you reference the FEMA declaration number (DR-4673-FL) regardless of which year you choose to claim it on.

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Amina Bah

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I went through this exact same confusion with Hurricane Ian losses for my property in Bonita Springs. The IRS guidance online is definitely outdated - they still reference Hurricane Maria in most publications because they don't update every document immediately after each disaster. Hurricane Ian is absolutely a qualified disaster under FEMA declaration DR-4673-FL from September 29, 2022. I successfully claimed my losses using Form 4684 and received my refund without any issues from the IRS. The key documentation you'll need: detailed photos of damage, all insurance correspondence and claim settlements, contractor estimates for repairs, receipts for any out-of-pocket expenses, and proof you were in an affected county. For your $42,000 loss, make sure you're clear about what portion was covered by insurance versus your actual out-of-pocket loss. One thing I wish I'd known earlier - you can choose to claim the loss on either your 2021 or 2022 tax return, whichever gives you better tax savings. With a loss that size, it's worth running the calculations both ways. In my case, claiming it on 2021 saved me about $4,200 more because my income was higher that year and the deduction was worth more. Don't let outdated IRS publications confuse you - Hurricane Ian definitely qualifies and you should claim that deduction if you have proper documentation.

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Savannah Vin

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm also in Southwest Florida and have been so confused by all the conflicting information I was finding online. Your point about choosing between tax years is really important - I hadn't realized that was an option. With my Hurricane Ian damages being around $35,000 after insurance, it sounds like it would definitely be worth having someone run those calculations to see which year would give me the better tax benefit. Did you use any specific tax software or professional to help you figure out the optimal year to claim it on? I want to make sure I don't leave money on the table with such a significant loss.

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Kaiya Rivera

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I can definitely help clarify this confusion about Hurricane Ian! You're absolutely right that the IRS guidance online is frustratingly outdated - they still reference Hurricane Maria in most of their publications because they don't update every single document after each new disaster. Hurricane Ian is 100% a qualified disaster under FEMA declaration DR-4673-FL (declared September 29, 2022). I work in tax preparation and have successfully processed dozens of Hurricane Ian claims using Form 4684 without any issues from the IRS. For your $42,000 loss, here's what you need to know: 1) Use Form 4684 (Casualties and Thefts) and specifically reference FEMA DR-4673-FL 2) Document everything: photos of damage, insurance claim details, contractor estimates, repair receipts 3) Calculate your loss as the lesser of: decrease in fair market value OR your adjusted basis, minus any insurance reimbursements One crucial tip that could save you thousands: you can elect to claim this loss on either your 2021 OR 2022 tax return - whichever gives you better tax savings. With a $42K loss, this decision could easily be worth $3,000+ in additional refund depending on your income in each year. Don't let your tax preparer's uncertainty cost you money. The guidance is crystal clear once you know the FEMA declaration number. Hurricane Ian absolutely qualifies and you should claim every penny you're entitled to.

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Thank you so much for this comprehensive breakdown! As someone who's been struggling with this exact issue for weeks, this is incredibly helpful. I had no idea about the option to choose between tax years - that could make a huge difference with my loss amount. One quick question: when you mention calculating the loss as the "decrease in fair market value OR adjusted basis," how do you typically determine the decrease in fair market value? Do you need a formal appraisal, or are contractor estimates sufficient? I have detailed contractor estimates for repairs but wasn't sure if I needed something more official for the IRS. Also, is there a specific deadline for making the election between claiming it on 2021 vs 2022? I want to make sure I don't miss any time limits while I'm running the numbers both ways.

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