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What specifically can I deduct as casualty losses from hurricane damage in a FEMA disaster area?

I'm trying to wrap up my 2024 taxes after getting an extension due to our cross-country move earlier this year. We were in the disaster zone when Hurricane Elena hit, and our garage got completely flooded with about 15 inches of water. The whole neighborhood was underwater with a mix of storm surge and backed-up sewage. FEMA gave us $1,350, but our homeowner's insurance and flood insurance both denied our claims. The garage was basically our storage unit while we were transitioning between homes, and everything in there was destroyed - furniture, clothing, mattresses, artwork, and some family antiques. My big question is about claiming these casualty losses. For items like antique furniture, clothing, and artwork that were ruined, how do I calculate the value when I don't have the original receipts anymore? I took tons of photos of the damage for documentation purposes, but I have no way to prove what these things originally cost. Can I just estimate what I paid and note that on the form? I'm worried about getting audited if I just make up numbers, but I also don't want to miss out on deductions I'm entitled to.

Dylan Evans

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As someone who's helped clients with disaster-related casualty losses, I can tell you that the IRS actually expects you to make reasonable estimates in these situations. You don't need the original receipts for everything. For your furniture, clothing, and other personal items, you'll need to create an itemized list with: 1) Description of each item lost 2) Approximate date acquired 3) Cost or basis (what you paid) 4) Fair market value before the hurricane 5) Fair market value after the hurricane (probably zero) 6) Amount of insurance or other reimbursement received For the antiques specifically, try to find comparable items online to establish a reasonable value. Take screenshots of similar items for sale to support your estimates. For regular items like clothing, you can use thrift store values as a baseline - the IRS understands you're making good-faith estimates. Remember to use Form 4684 to report your losses, and since this was in a federally declared disaster area, you have some additional benefits. The $1,350 from FEMA will reduce your total loss. After that, you'll subtract $100 per event, and then only the amount exceeding 10% of your AGI will be deductible.

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Thanks for this detailed explanation! So if I understand correctly, I need to make a comprehensive list of everything lost. For the antiques, would you recommend going to antique sites to find similar items, or should I try to get a written estimate from a local dealer? Some of these were family heirlooms so I'm struggling to determine a fair value. Also, does the $100 deductible apply to the entire hurricane event or to each individual item? I'm a bit confused about how to apply that 10% AGI threshold.

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Dylan Evans

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For antiques, online comparisons are a good start, but if any items were particularly valuable, getting a written opinion from an appraiser would strengthen your case. Many appraisers can work from photos if you have good pictures from before the damage. For family heirlooms, look for the closest comparable items on auction sites or specialized antique marketplaces. The $100 deductible applies to the entire hurricane event, not each item. So you'd subtract $100 from your total loss after any reimbursements. Then, you calculate 10% of your AGI and only the portion of your loss that exceeds that amount is deductible. For example, if your AGI is $70,000, you'd need losses exceeding $7,000 (after the $100 and FEMA payment) to get any deduction.

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Don't forget that for federally declared disaster areas, you can choose to claim the casualty loss on either the current year return OR the previous year by filing an amended return. Sometimes it makes more sense to claim it on the previous year if your income was higher then (making the 10% AGI threshold easier to overcome). Also, make sure to document EVERYTHING. I went through Hurricane Harvey and took videos walking through each room showing the damage. For valuation, I used Amazon and Walmart receipts in my email history to establish values of similar items I had purchased. Even if they weren't the exact items, it gave me a reasonable basis for my estimates.

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LunarEclipse

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Can you explain the advantage of filing for the previous year a bit more? My tax person mentioned this but I didn't really understand why it would be better. Also, do you need to file an amended return to do this or is there a special form?

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The advantage of claiming on the previous year is all about that 10% AGI threshold. Since you can only deduct casualty losses that exceed 10% of your AGI (after subtracting $100), it makes the most sense to claim it in whichever year your AGI was higher. For example, if your AGI was $80,000 in 2023 but only $60,000 in 2024, you'd need losses exceeding $8,000 in 2023 versus only $6,000 in 2024. So if your actual loss was $7,000, you'd get no deduction if claimed in 2023, but would get a $900 deduction if claimed in 2024. You would need to file Form 1040-X (amended return) for the previous tax year if you choose to claim it there. You'll include Form 4684 and Schedule A with the amended return to document the casualty loss.

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Yara Khalil

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Make sure you understand the timing of when you can claim the loss. The IRS says you claim it in the year the loss actually happened, but as someone mentioned, for federally declared disasters you have the option to take it in the previous year. Also check your state's tax rules! My state gave additional casualty loss deductions beyond what the federal government allowed when we had flooding. The state didn't have the 10% AGI limitation so we got a much bigger deduction on our state taxes even though the federal deduction was minimal.

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Keisha Brown

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Did you use the same IRS Form 4684 for your state taxes or did they have a separate form? I'm in Florida so no state income tax for me, but my parents in Georgia had hurricane damage and might benefit from this info.

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Ethan Wilson

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is keeping detailed records of your cleanup and restoration costs too. After Hurricane Michael, I learned that reasonable costs for cleaning, repairs, and even temporary storage while dealing with the damage can sometimes be included in your casualty loss calculation. Also, if you're dealing with contaminated floodwater like you mentioned (sewage backup), make sure to document any health-related expenses from exposure. While medical costs aren't part of the casualty loss itself, they might be deductible as medical expenses if they exceed the threshold. For your antique valuation issue, consider reaching out to local auction houses or estate sale companies. Many of them can provide informal estimates based on photos, and having that professional opinion documented in writing adds credibility to your claim. Even if it's not a formal appraisal, it shows you made a reasonable effort to establish fair market value. The key is showing the IRS that you acted in good faith and used reasonable methods to determine values. Your photos of the damage are actually really valuable evidence that many people forget to take, so you're ahead of the game there.

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Eli Wang

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This is really helpful advice about cleanup costs! I hadn't thought about including those expenses. After Hurricane Elena, we had to rent a storage unit for three months while dealing with the garage cleanup, plus we paid for professional mold remediation because of the sewage contamination. Can you clarify what types of cleanup costs are actually deductible? We spent about $2,500 on the storage unit and another $3,800 on professional cleanup services. I'm assuming the storage costs would count since we needed it because of the disaster damage, but I'm not sure about the cleanup services - would those be considered repairs or part of the casualty loss? Also, great point about reaching out to auction houses for the antiques. There's a well-known estate sale company in our area that specializes in vintage furniture, so I'll contact them with my photos. Having some professional backing for those values would definitely make me feel more confident about the numbers I'm putting on the forms.

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I want to add something important about the sewage contamination aspect that hasn't been fully addressed. When floodwater contains sewage (which you mentioned), the IRS actually allows you to claim the full replacement cost for certain contaminated items rather than just fair market value, since they're considered a health hazard that can't be properly cleaned. This is particularly relevant for your clothing, mattresses, and upholstered furniture that were soaked in contaminated water. For these items, you can often claim what it would cost to replace them with similar items today, not just their depreciated value before the hurricane. This can significantly increase your deductible loss. You'll want to clearly document which items were exposed to sewage contamination versus clean floodwater. Take photos that show the water line and any visible contamination, and keep records of any professional recommendations you received about disposal of contaminated items. Also, regarding your FEMA payment - make sure you understand exactly what it covered. If FEMA designated some of that $1,350 for specific items (like temporary housing assistance), those amounts might not reduce your casualty loss for different categories of property. You should have received documentation from FEMA breaking down what the payment was intended to cover. Have you considered consulting with a tax professional who specializes in disaster losses? Given the complexity with the sewage contamination and the mix of antiques and regular household items, it might be worth the cost to ensure you're maximizing your legitimate deductions while staying compliant.

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