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Income test for Qualifying Relative - Schedule C Gross Receipts vs. 1040 Total Income?

I think I'm overthinking this but honestly I'm so confused after trying to figure it out (even called a tax person and they just made it more confusing)... So I've been off work for the last couple years because of family stuff, and my fiancée has been claiming me as a dependent (qualifying relative). In the last half of 2024, I started doing some gig work that I need to report on Schedule C as a sole proprietor. I know that as a sole proprietor the income goes onto my personal taxes, but I'm confused about which number counts for the qualifying relative income test. After working through my tax prep (all done but not submitted yet), the net profit/loss from Schedule C shows up as my personal income. But here's where I'm confused - for the qualifying relative income test, is it my gross receipts from Schedule C that matter (which were about $4,850) or is it the net profit after expenses (which is only about $2,700)? Does anyone know which number the IRS looks at to determine if I meet the income test to be claimed as a dependent? Everything I read online seems to contradict each other!

The income test for a qualifying relative looks at the person's gross income, but in the case of self-employment income, it's not the gross receipts but rather the net earnings from self-employment (your profit after business expenses). So it would be the $2,700 net profit figure that matters for the income test, not your gross receipts of $4,850. For 2024 tax year (filing in 2025), the income threshold for the qualifying relative test is $4,800. Since your net profit is below that threshold, you would still meet the income test part of being a qualifying relative. Remember though that for someone to claim you as a qualifying relative, several tests must be met: the income test (which you pass), the support test (they must provide more than half your total support for the year), relationship test, and you can't be a qualifying child of anyone.

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Thanks so much for clearing that up! So just to double check - the $2,700 profit on my Schedule C is what counts toward the $4,800 limit, not the total receipts before expenses. That makes sense since business expenses aren't really "income" I have available. What about other income though? I also had about $300 in interest from my savings account. Does that get added to the $2,700 when checking against the $4,800 threshold?

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Yes, you've got it right about the Schedule C income - it's the $2,700 profit that counts, not the gross receipts. For your question about the interest income, yes, that $300 in interest would also count toward the income test. So your total income for the qualifying relative test would be $3,000 ($2,700 Schedule C profit + $300 interest income), which is still below the $4,800 threshold. Any taxable income you receive would count toward this test, including interest, dividends, capital gains, etc.

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How accurate is this taxr thing? I'm dealing with a similar situation but with rental income for my mother who lives with me. The IRS pub language is so confusing about what counts toward gross income for the qualifying relative test.

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Does it work for more complicated situations? I have a dependent who has both W-2 and 1099 income plus some social security benefits. I'm confused about which parts count toward the income test.

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I found this directly from IRS Publication 501: "Gross income means all income you received in the form of money, goods, property, and services that isn't exempt from tax... Gross income includes net income from self-employment." So yes, for Schedule C income, it's the NET profit after expenses that counts toward the qualifying relative test, not your gross receipts. This is important because you could have high gross receipts but low net profit after all your business expenses.

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Thank you for finding that exact quote from the IRS publication! That makes it super clear. So in my case with $2,700 net profit from Schedule C plus $300 interest income, I'm at $3,000 total which is well under the $4,800 limit. That's such a relief - I was worried I'd mess up my fiancée's tax return if I got this wrong.

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You're welcome! And yes, your total of $3,000 is well under the $4,800 limit for 2024 (filing in 2025). Just make sure your fiancée also meets the support test - they need to have provided more than half of your total support for the year. Support includes housing, food, medical expenses, clothing, etc.

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Are you and your fiancée filing taxes together? Because if so, I think there might be a different issue - you can't claim someone as a dependent if you're filing a joint return with them.

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That's correct - you can't be claimed as a dependent if you're filing a joint return (with very limited exceptions). The original poster mentioned their fiancée claims them as a dependent, so they would need to file separately.

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We're not married yet so we aren't filing jointly. My fiancée claims me as a qualifying relative since I've lived with her the whole year, had almost no income until recently, and she provides over half my support. We're planning to get married next year, so I guess that'll change our tax situation again!

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Just to add another perspective - I work as a tax preparer and see this confusion all the time! You're absolutely right that it's the net profit from Schedule C that counts toward the qualifying relative income test, not gross receipts. One thing to also keep in mind is that if you had any estimated tax payments or self-employment tax throughout the year, those don't reduce your "gross income" for dependency purposes - it's still the $2,700 net profit that counts. The self-employment tax is calculated separately and doesn't affect whether you meet the income test. Also, since you mentioned you're getting married next year, just be aware that once you're married, you'll need to decide whether to file jointly (which would be more beneficial in most cases) or separately if one of you wants to continue being claimed as a dependent by someone else. But that's a problem for next year's taxes!

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