LLC vs Sole Proprietorship Tax Filing: Paying Taxes on Net or Gross Income?
2023 will be the first time I'm filing taxes as a legit business owner after turning my side hustle into an official operation last year. I registered as an LLC (taxed as a sole proprietorship) and have been meticulously tracking everything in QuickBooks, but I'm still confused about what exactly I'll be paying taxes on. I've kept detailed records of all my income and business expenses, so calculating my profit/loss is straightforward. But my question is: when I file my Schedule C with my personal return, will I be paying taxes based on my gross income (total revenue) or my net income (profit after expenses)? Basically, I'm wondering if purchasing additional business equipment or supplies before December 31st to reduce my net income would be beneficial for tax purposes? I'm looking at upgrading my laptop ($1,800) and some specialized equipment ($2,500) that I definitely need but could wait until January if there's no tax advantage to buying now. I made about $73,000 in revenue this year with around $26,000 in expenses so far. Any clarification would be super helpful since this is my first rodeo with business taxes!
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Chloe Harris
You'll be paying taxes on your net income (profit), not your gross income. This is definitely good news for small business owners! The way it works: On your Schedule C, you'll report all your gross income ($73,000), then you'll subtract all your legitimate business expenses ($26,000 plus any additional qualifying expenses). The resulting number is your net profit, and that's what gets added to your personal tax return as taxable income. So yes, purchasing necessary business supplies or equipment before December 31st can reduce your taxable income for this year. However, there are some important things to consider. For equipment purchases like your laptop and specialized equipment, you might need to depreciate them over several years rather than deducting the full amount immediately. There's an exception called Section 179 that might allow you to deduct the full cost in the current year, depending on your specific situation. Just make sure any purchases are legitimately needed for your business and keep good documentation. The IRS looks closely at large year-end purchases that seem designed solely to reduce taxes.
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Omar Mahmoud
•Thank you for clarifying! That makes much more sense. So if I understand correctly, I'd potentially benefit tax-wise from making those purchases this year rather than waiting until January. For the Section 179 deduction you mentioned - is there a dollar limit on that? And do I need to do anything special to claim it, or is it just part of the regular Schedule C?
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Chloe Harris
•The Section 179 deduction limit for 2023 is $1,160,000, so your purchases would easily fall under that threshold. Most small businesses can take advantage of this deduction for qualifying equipment purchases. You'll claim the Section 179 deduction by filling out Form 4562 (Depreciation and Amortization) in addition to your Schedule C. On the form, you'll list the equipment, its cost, and indicate you're electing the Section 179 deduction. Your tax software should walk you through this if you're using one, or your accountant will know exactly how to handle it.
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Diego Vargas
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NeonNinja
•Does it actually give you advice specific to your state? I'm in California and the state tax rules for LLCs are so different from federal. Their minimum tax is killing me.
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Anastasia Popov
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Diego Vargas
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Anastasia Popov
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Sean Murphy
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Zara Khan
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NeonNinja
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Sean Murphy
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NeonNinja
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Luca Ferrari
Just want to add something important that nobody mentioned yet. If your business is an LLC but you're filing as a sole proprietor (single-member LLC), don't forget you'll also owe self-employment tax (15.3%) on your net profit in addition to income tax. This catches a lot of first-time business owners by surprise because it's a significant additional tax on top of your regular income tax. You'll pay this on your net business income (profit), which is another reason why legitimate business deductions are so important. Make sure you're setting aside enough for taxes throughout the year - I recommend at least 25-30% of your profit depending on your tax bracket. You might also need to make quarterly estimated tax payments if you expect to owe more than $1,000.
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Nia Davis
•Wait, I thought LLCs didn't have to pay self-employment tax? Isn't that the advantage of having an LLC instead of just being a sole proprietor?
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Luca Ferrari
•That's a common misconception. A single-member LLC that hasn't elected to be taxed as a corporation is treated as a "disregarded entity" for federal tax purposes. This means you file Schedule C just like a sole proprietor and pay self-employment tax on your profits. The main advantages of an LLC are liability protection for your personal assets and potential state tax benefits, not federal tax savings. If you want to potentially reduce self-employment taxes, you'd need to elect S-Corporation status for your LLC, which is a more complex tax situation where you'd pay yourself a reasonable salary (subject to FICA taxes) and take the rest as distributions (not subject to self-employment tax).
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Mateo Martinez
Has anyone used QuickBooks Self-Employed for tracking expenses and calculating quarterly taxes? I just started using it this year but I'm not sure if it's calculating things correctly for my LLC.
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QuantumQueen
•I've been using it for 2 years for my consulting business. It's pretty good for basic tracking and separating business vs personal expenses. The quarterly tax estimates are decent but tend to be a bit conservative (which is better than underpaying). The one limitation I found is that it doesn't handle inventory very well if your business sells products. And if you want more detailed reports or need to track assets for depreciation, you might need to upgrade to QuickBooks Online.
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Ella Russell
Great question, Omar! As others have mentioned, you'll definitely pay taxes on your net income (profit after expenses), not your gross revenue. This is one of the key benefits of proper business expense tracking. With your numbers ($73k revenue, $26k expenses so far), you're looking at around $47k in net profit before any additional purchases. That equipment you're considering ($1,800 laptop + $2,500 specialized equipment) could potentially save you around $1,300-$1,700 in taxes depending on your tax bracket, assuming you can deduct the full amounts under Section 179. One thing to keep in mind that others touched on - don't forget about self-employment tax! As an LLC taxed as a sole prop, you'll owe 15.3% SE tax on your net profit plus your regular income tax. So if you're in the 22% tax bracket, you're really looking at about 37.3% total tax on that profit. My advice: make those equipment purchases if you genuinely need them for your business, but don't buy stuff just for the tax deduction. A $4,300 purchase to save $1,500 in taxes still costs you $2,800 out of pocket. But if you need the equipment anyway, definitely buy it before December 31st!
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Carmen Sanchez
•This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was looking for! Thank you for putting it all together with the actual numbers. I hadn't fully grasped the self-employment tax piece - that 37.3% total tax rate is definitely something I need to factor into my planning. You're absolutely right about not buying things just for the tax deduction. I do genuinely need both pieces of equipment (my current laptop is dying and the specialized equipment would help me take on higher-paying projects), so it sounds like purchasing before year-end makes financial sense. One follow-up question: you mentioned the potential tax savings of $1,300-$1,700 depending on my tax bracket. How do I figure out what bracket I'll be in? Is it based on my total income (W-2 job + business profit) or just the business income?
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