Can I deduct up to $5000 in startup costs on my tax return the year after I actually spent the money?
I'm in a bit of a tax pickle here and could use some clarification. I started putting together my business in late 2024 - bought equipment, paid for some consulting, created an LLC, all that fun stuff. Total startup expenses were about $4700. But I didn't actually launch operations or make any income until January 2025. So here's my question - for these startup costs of $4700 that I paid in 2024, do I need to file a Schedule C for 2024 tax year with zero income and claim these expenses? Or can I just include all of these startup costs on my 2025 Schedule C when I actually have business income to report? I've heard something about being able to deduct up to $5000 in startup costs but I'm confused about WHEN I can take this deduction. Any guidance would be super appreciated since I'm trying to get my tax situation sorted out correctly!
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Anderson Prospero
You actually have a couple of options here for your startup costs. The IRS allows business owners to deduct up to $5,000 in startup costs in the year your business begins "active trade or business" - which sounds like 2025 in your case, not 2024. Since your business wasn't operational (no income, no customers, no active trade) in 2024, you wouldn't file a Schedule C for 2024. Instead, those expenses would be considered startup costs that you can deduct on your 2025 Schedule C when your business actually launched. The key here is that startup expenses are tied to when your business begins operating, not necessarily when you paid those expenses. So your $4,700 in startup costs from 2024 would be deductible on your 2025 return as first-year startup expenses.
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Tyrone Hill
•What if your startup costs exceed the $5000 limit? I had about $8000 in startup costs before launching. Can I still claim those or am I just out of luck for the extra $3000?
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Anderson Prospero
•If your startup costs exceed $5,000, you don't lose the deduction for the excess amount - you just have to handle it differently. You can deduct the first $5,000 immediately in your first year of business (subject to a phase-out if costs exceed $50,000), and then the remaining amount gets amortized (deducted gradually) over 15 years. For your $8,000 in startup costs, you could deduct $5,000 in the first year, and then amortize the remaining $3,000 over 15 years (about $200 per year for 15 years). This applies to the typical organizational and startup costs a business incurs before opening its doors.
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Toot-n-Mighty
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Lena Kowalski
•How exactly does the document analysis work? I have a pile of receipts and bank statements from getting my business ready. Would it be able to tell which ones count as startup costs vs regular business expenses?
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DeShawn Washington
•Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. How accurate is it really with the timing rules? My CPA told me startup costs are super complicated and the IRS scrutinizes them closely during audits.
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Toot-n-Mighty
•The document analysis works by uploading your receipts, bank statements, and formation documents. It uses AI to categorize each expense as startup costs, Section 179 property, or regular business expenses. It's really good at distinguishing between them based on the expense timing and nature - like recognizing that legal fees for forming an LLC are different from inventory purchases. The timing rules calculation is actually one of its strongest features. It identifies when your business officially began operations and applies the appropriate rules for each expense type. My CPA was also initially skeptical but ended up being impressed with how it handled the nuances of amortization for costs over $5,000 and properly applied Section 195 timing rules. It'll actually flag expenses that have higher audit risk too.
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DeShawn Washington
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Sofía Rodríguez
•How does this actually work? I've literally never been able to reach anyone at the IRS no matter what time of day I call.
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Aiden O'Connor
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Aiden O'Connor
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Zoe Papadopoulos
Another approach worth considering is that some of your "startup costs" might actually qualify as different types of deductions. For example, equipment purchases might qualify for Section 179 depreciation rather than startup costs. This matters because Section 179 property has different rules and limits than the $5,000 startup cost deduction. Business assets like computers, tools, furniture, etc. could be deducted differently than organizational costs like legal fees, market research, etc. Might be worth categorizing your expenses correctly to maximize deductions.
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Jamal Brown
•So if I bought a $2,500 computer to use for my business before launching, would that count against the $5,000 startup cost limit or could it be handled separately under Section 179?
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Zoe Papadopoulos
•That $2,500 computer would typically qualify for Section 179 depreciation rather than being considered a startup cost. This is beneficial because it wouldn't count against your $5,000 startup cost limit. Instead, it would fall under the much higher Section 179 limit (which is $1,220,000 for 2025). The key requirement is that the computer must be used more than 50% for business purposes after your business begins operations. You'd report this on Form 4562 rather than as a startup cost, which preserves more of your $5,000 startup cost allowance for things like legal fees, marketing research, and other non-equipment expenses.
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Fatima Al-Rashid
dont forget about state taxes too! My state (california) has different rules about startup expenses than federal. I deducted my startup costs correctly on federal but messed up on state and got a nasty letter from the franchise tax board. Make sure you check your state tax rules too!
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Giovanni Rossi
•Oh yikes I didn't even think about state rules being different! What happened with California? I'm in NY and now worried about this.
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