When can a business claim startup costs deduction - year of expense or income?
I'm completely lost on how to handle my business startup costs for tax purposes. I spent about $7,200 getting my photography business off the ground back in 2023, but I didn't actually make any money until 2024. Now I'm working on my taxes and I'm confused - should I be amending my 2023 return to claim the $5,000 startup cost deduction when I actually spent the money? Or do I need to claim the deduction in 2024 when I first started generating income? I've looked through IRS publications but they're not super clear on timing when there's a gap between expenses and income. Any advice would be really appreciated since I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly!
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Isabella Oliveira
You actually have options here. Per IRS rules, you can deduct up to $5,000 in startup costs, but the key timing element is that these deductions are taken in the tax year when your business officially begins "operating." The IRS considers a business to be operating when it starts providing goods or services and generating income. Since you incurred the costs in 2023 but didn't generate income until 2024, your business technically wasn't "operating" until 2024 according to IRS definitions. So you would take the deduction on your 2024 return, not by amending 2023. Any startup costs beyond the $5,000 limit would need to be amortized (spread out) over 15 years, starting with the month your business began operating. So the remaining $2,200 would be amortized starting in 2024.
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Ravi Patel
•What if they had a small amount of income in 2023? Like if they did one paid photo shoot in December 2023 but most business didn't start until 2024? Would that make 2023 the startup year instead?
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Isabella Oliveira
•If they had even one paid photo shoot in 2023, that would generally qualify as the business beginning operations in 2023. The IRS doesn't have a specific income threshold - it's about when you first begin providing goods or services for payment. In that scenario, 2023 would be considered the first year of business operation, and the $5,000 deduction could be taken on the 2023 return. In situations where there's a gray area, it's sometimes better to use the later year (2024) if that's more advantageous tax-wise. But technically, even minimal income-generating activity can establish the business as "operating" for tax purposes.
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Freya Andersen
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Sean Flanagan
My accountant told me that you amortize startup costs over 15 years, starting with the first year your business begins operating. You can deduct up to $5k immediately, but anything over that gets spread out. And "begins operating" means when you start offering goods/services, not necessarily when you spend the money.
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Zara Mirza
•Does this apply to all kinds of startup costs? I have legal fees, website design, initial inventory, and some marketing expenses. Can I lump all of these together for the $5k deduction?
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Sean Flanagan
•Not all business costs are considered "startup costs" for this purpose. The IRS is pretty specific about what qualifies. Costs to actually set up the business structure (like legal fees for forming an LLC) and investigative costs definitely count as startup expenses. Initial inventory is actually not a startup cost - it's treated as a cost of goods sold when you sell those items. Website design and marketing can qualify as startup costs if they were incurred before you officially opened for business. Once you're operational, these become regular business expenses, not startup costs.
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NebulaNinja
Does anyone know which forms I need to fill out to claim these startup costs? I'm using TurboTax and it's not clear where to enter this information.
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Luca Russo
•For business startup costs, you'll need to use Form 4562 for the amortization part. The $5,000 first-year deduction and the ongoing amortization get reported on your Schedule C if you're a sole proprietor (Line 27a "Other expenses" with "startup costs" as the description). If you're an LLC or corporation, it gets a bit more complicated.
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Sean Fitzgerald
The timing confusion you're experiencing is really common! Since you spent the money in 2023 but didn't start generating income until 2024, you'll want to take the startup cost deduction on your 2024 tax return. The IRS considers your business to have "begun operations" when you first started providing services and earning income, not when you incurred the expenses. So you can deduct up to $5,000 of your startup costs directly on your 2024 return, and the remaining $2,200 would need to be amortized over 15 years starting in 2024. Don't amend your 2023 return - that would actually be incorrect since your business wasn't considered "active" yet according to IRS definitions. Make sure to keep all your receipts from 2023 as documentation for these startup expenses, even though you're claiming them in 2024. The key is when your business began operating, not when you paid for the expenses.
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Makayla Shoemaker
•This is really helpful clarification! I was in a similar boat with my freelance graphic design business - had all these setup expenses in one year but didn't land my first paying client until the following year. It's counterintuitive that you claim the deduction when you start earning, not when you spend, but it makes sense from the IRS perspective since that's when your business is actually "in operation." Thanks for explaining the $5k immediate deduction vs 15-year amortization split too - I didn't realize there was that threshold!
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Sasha Ivanov
This is such a great question and the answers here are really solid! I went through the exact same confusion with my consulting business last year. One thing that might help clarify - the IRS Publication 535 has a section specifically on startup costs that breaks down the timing rules pretty clearly once you know what to look for. The key phrase is "begins business operations" which they define as when you start the activities for which your business was organized - so in your case, when you first started doing paid photography work in 2024. Even though you spent the money preparing in 2023, the deduction goes on your 2024 return. Also worth noting - keep excellent records of all those 2023 expenses because if you ever get audited, you'll need to prove both the amount and that they were legitimate startup costs. The IRS can be pretty strict about what qualifies versus what they consider personal expenses or regular business costs.
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