Can I claim business expenses for a startup business that hasn't launched yet?
Hey all! Looking for some tax advice here. I've been working on starting a small e-commerce business as a side hustle for about 6 months now, but haven't officially launched yet. Life got in the way (as it tends to do), and I'm still in the setup phase. So far I've spent around $650 on initial startup costs in 2024 - domain names, some basic inventory supplies, business cards, etc. I've kept all my receipts. Right now I have a couple of websites built but they're not live yet because I'm still finalizing my product line, which will probably cost another $800-900 to complete. Bottom line - I haven't made any sales yet since nothing is officially launched. Can I still claim the $650 I've already spent as business expenses on my upcoming tax return even though I haven't generated any revenue? Trying to figure out if I can get some tax benefit from these costs or if I need to wait until I'm actually making money. Thanks!
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Victoria Brown
Yes, you can potentially deduct those startup costs, but there are some important things to consider. The IRS allows you to deduct up to $5,000 in startup costs in your first year of business, with amounts over that threshold amortized over 15 years. However, the key question is whether you're "in business" yet or still in the startup phase. For tax purposes, you need to be engaged in business activities with the primary intent of making a profit - but you don't necessarily need to have made sales yet. The fact that you've purchased inventory, set up websites, and are actively preparing to launch suggests business intent rather than just a hobby. You have two main options: 1) Claim the expenses this year if you can demonstrate you're actively pursuing the business, or 2) Capitalize these costs and begin deducting them once you officially launch. Keep detailed records of everything - receipts, business plan, activities showing your intent to profit. This documentation will be crucial if the IRS questions whether this is a legitimate business versus a hobby.
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Samuel Robinson
•What if their business never actually launches? Can they still deduct those expenses or would they be considered personal expenses at that point?
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Victoria Brown
•If the business never launches, it gets a bit complicated. The IRS would likely consider whether there was a genuine profit motive when the expenses were incurred. If you can demonstrate you were legitimately pursuing a business but circumstances beyond your control prevented launch, you might still claim a business loss. For abandoned business ventures, you may be able to claim the expenses as a capital loss rather than business expenses. However, this is very fact-specific and there's definitely a higher chance of scrutiny if there's never any revenue.
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Camila Castillo
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Brianna Muhammad
•How does it work with tracking ongoing expenses? I'm in a similar spot but worried about keeping everything organized for when I do launch.
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JaylinCharles
•Sounds too good to be true. How is it different from just googling tax info? I've been burned by "AI tax tools" before that just gave generic advice.
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Camila Castillo
•It has a really nice expense tracking feature that categorizes everything for Schedule C purposes. I actually started using it before launch and it separated my expenses into startup vs. operational costs, which made filing super straightforward once I was up and running. For your question about how it's different from Google - it actually analyzes your specific documents and situation rather than just giving generic advice. It found some deductions specific to my industry that I had no idea about. Plus it gives citations to the exact IRS publications and tax code sections that apply to your situation.
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JaylinCharles
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Eloise Kendrick
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Lucas Schmidt
•Wait, how does this even work? The IRS phone lines are notoriously impossible to get through on. Are you saying this somehow jumps the queue or something?
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Freya Collins
•Yeah right. The IRS doesn't answer their phones for ANYONE. I've tried calling about my refund like 20 times. This has to be some kind of scam.
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Eloise Kendrick
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Freya Collins
Ok I need to eat some crow here. After my skeptical comment I actually tried Claimyr out of desperation because I hadn't heard anything about my refund in 3 months. Got connected to an actual IRS person in about 15 minutes who confirmed my refund was held up for verification and gave me exact steps to resolve it. For the original poster - while I had the agent on the phone, I actually asked about your startup expense situation too since I was curious. They confirmed you CAN claim those expenses even without revenue, but said you need to be able to show that you're actively pursuing the business (not just thinking about it). Having a business plan, website development, inventory purchases, etc. all help establish that it's a real business attempt and not a hobby.
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LongPeri
Just wanted to add that if you decide to claim these expenses, make sure you properly categorize them on your Schedule C. Since you haven't launched yet, these would technically be "startup costs" rather than regular business expenses. There's actually a specific section for this on your tax forms. You can deduct up to $5,000 in the first year, and anything over that gets amortized over 15 years. But the important thing is that you need to be "open for business" in the tax year you're claiming them - which doesn't necessarily mean you've made sales, but that you're ready and trying to make sales.
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Oscar O'Neil
•But how do you prove you're "open for business" if your website isn't even live yet? Seems like that would be a red flag.
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LongPeri
•You don't necessarily need a live website to be "open for business" in the IRS's eyes. What matters is that you've taken concrete steps toward operating as a business with the intent to make a profit. Things like having business cards made, attending networking events to find potential clients, developing product prototypes, contacting vendors, creating marketing materials, or setting up business infrastructure all count as evidence. It's about demonstrating that you're actively working toward operating a business, not just thinking about it. Document everything you're doing toward launching - this creates your paper trail of business intent.
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Sara Hellquiem
I just dealt with this last year! I started a photography business, spent about $1200 on equipment and a website, but only made $200 in actual revenue. My tax guy said I could absolutely deduct all those expenses against my other income. The key thing he told me was to show a "profit motive" - basically that I'm trying to make money, not just pursuing a hobby. He had me create a simple business plan, keep logs of time spent working on the business, and document all my marketing efforts. I filed a Schedule C showing a loss for the first year and had no issues. Don't forget you can also deduct home office expenses if you have a dedicated space for the business, even pre-launch!
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Charlee Coleman
•Did ur tax guy mention anything about having to make a profit in 3 out of 5 years? I heard the IRS considers it a hobby if u keep losing money year after year.
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