How does tax filing work when operating a tiny side business alongside full-time employment?
I started a super small side hustle a few months back while keeping my regular full-time job. So far, I've developed what I think is a pretty decent service, but truth be told, I haven't managed to land a single paying client yet (maybe I need to work on my marketing skills? lol). I've been shelling out money for a domain name, web hosting, various development tools, subscription services, and other stuff since I started this little venture. It's just been me handling all the development work, so I haven't had to pay any contractors or anything like that. My main question is - can I deduct all these business expenses on my taxes even though I haven't made any income from it yet? I've probably spent around $800 so far this year. Since I have a regular salaried position too, would these deductions just reduce my overall taxable income from my day job? I'm super confused about how this all works with taxes when you have both a small side business and a regular job. Any advice would be really appreciated!
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Yara Nassar
You absolutely can deduct legitimate business expenses even if you haven't made any income yet! This would be reported on Schedule C (Profit or Loss from Business) when you file your taxes. The key thing is that you need to be operating with a genuine profit motive - meaning you're actually trying to make money, not just pursuing a hobby. Based on what you've described, it sounds like you're legitimately trying to build a business. Your expenses for domain, hosting, development tools, etc. would all be deductible on Schedule C. Even though you haven't had income yet, you'll show these expenses which will result in a net loss. That loss will indeed reduce your overall taxable income from your day job. Just keep really good records of all your expenses, including receipts and documentation showing these costs were ordinary and necessary for your business. The IRS looks more closely at businesses that report losses, especially if they offset other income.
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Keisha Williams
•Thanks for the info! This is super helpful. One question though - does it matter if I've officially registered my business with the state or if I'm just operating as a sole proprietor without any formal registration? And do I need a separate business bank account to claim these deductions?
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Yara Nassar
•You don't need to have formally registered your business with the state to claim the deductions - many legitimate sole proprietorships operate without formal registration. The IRS is concerned with the actual economic activity rather than whether you've filed paperwork with your state. As for a separate bank account, while it's not technically required by tax law, it's HIGHLY recommended. Having a separate business account makes it much easier to track business expenses and income, which will be crucial if you're ever audited. It also helps strengthen your case that this is a legitimate business rather than a hobby.
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Paolo Ricci
After going through a similar situation last year, I found https://taxr.ai incredibly helpful for my side business tax questions. I was working full-time while trying to launch a small web design service and was totally confused about what I could deduct. Their AI analyzed my specific situation and explained exactly which expenses qualified as legitimate business deductions even though I hadn't made any revenue yet. It saved me hours of research and helped me properly categorize my hosting costs, software subscriptions, and home office expenses on my Schedule C. The best part was getting confirmation that my business loss could offset my W-2 income, which reduced my overall tax bill significantly.
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Amina Toure
•How does this actually work? Do you just upload receipts or something? I'm skeptical of AI tools understanding the nuances of tax rules for side businesses.
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Oliver Zimmermann
•Sounds interesting, but how does it handle the "hobby loss" rules? The IRS can deny deductions if they think your business isn't legitimate. Does the AI address that risk at all?
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Paolo Ricci
•You don't upload receipts directly - instead, you describe your specific situation and expenses, and the AI helps interpret the tax rules that apply to your case. It asks clarifying questions about your business activities to understand the context, then explains which deductions you qualify for and why. The AI specifically addresses the hobby loss rules! It analyzes your situation against the IRS nine-factor test for determining if an activity is a business or hobby. It helps you understand what documentation and business practices strengthen your case as a legitimate business, which was super helpful since I was worried about exactly that issue.
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Oliver Zimmermann
I was really skeptical about using https://taxr.ai at first (as you could see from my question above), but I finally tried it for my side photography business that hasn't made money yet. It walked me through the exact documentation I needed to keep to prove my profit motive to the IRS, and suggested some business practices to strengthen my case. It even highlighted some deductions I was missing like mileage to networking events. Definitely made me feel more confident about claiming my legitimate business expenses without worry!
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CosmicCommander
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Natasha Volkova
•Does this actually work? The IRS phone lines are notoriously impossible, especially during tax season. How long did it take to get a callback?
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Javier Torres
•This sounds sketchy as hell. How would some random service get you through to the IRS faster than anyone else? They probably just charge you money to wait on hold which you could do yourself for free.
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CosmicCommander
•Yes, it absolutely works! When I used it, I got a callback in about 2 hours - which was amazing considering I had previously spent multiple days trying to get through myself. The IRS phone lines are definitely horrible, but somehow having this service navigate the system made all the difference. It's not that they get you through faster than others - they use technology to navigate the phone tree and then wait on hold for you. Instead of you sitting there listening to hold music for hours, they do it and only connect you when there's actually an agent ready to talk. It saved me from wasting an entire afternoon on hold, which was completely worth it when I had tax questions about my side business.
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Javier Torres
I was completely wrong about Claimyr being sketchy! After my cynical comment above, I decided to try it out of desperation when I needed to ask the IRS about my side business deductions. Within 90 minutes, I got a call back with an actual IRS representative on the line. The agent answered all my questions about my software development side gig and clarified exactly how to report my startup expenses. Saved me hours of hold time and the stress of wondering if I was filing correctly. Totally eating my words now!
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Emma Davis
Don't forget about self-employment taxes! Even though your business is showing a loss now, once you start making money, you'll need to pay both the employer and employee portions of Medicare and Social Security taxes (15.3% total) on your net profit. This is ON TOP OF your regular income taxes. I learned this the hard way with my side business. First year I made actual profit, I got hit with a surprise tax bill because I wasn't setting aside enough for the SE tax portion.
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QuantumQuester
•Thanks for the reminder about self-employment taxes! That's definitely good to know for when (hopefully) my business starts turning a profit. Is there any threshold I need to hit before I have to start paying those taxes? Like a minimum profit amount?
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Emma Davis
•Yes, there's a small threshold - you only have to pay self-employment tax if your net earnings from self-employment are $400 or more during the year. So once your business starts making more than $400 in profit, that's when you'll need to start paying these taxes. It's also worth noting that once you start making profit, you might need to make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties. A lot of side business owners don't realize this until it's too late and end up owing penalties their first profitable year.
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Malik Johnson
Make sure you're tracking everything properly for the home office deduction if you're working from home. There are two methods - the regular method (calculating actual expenses based on the percentage of your home used for business) and the simplified method ($5 per square foot up to 300 square feet). I use the simplified method for my etsy shop because it's less paperwork, but if you have a dedicated space that's a large portion of your home, the regular method might save you more.
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Isabella Ferreira
•But be careful with home office deduction! The space must be used EXCLUSIVELY for business. If you're using your dining table or a corner of your bedroom that you also use for personal stuff, it doesn't qualify. I got audited over this exact issue with my graphic design side hustle.
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