IRS called about basement renovation business startup costs on my LLC tax return - am I in trouble?
I set up an LLC back in 2020 with plans to run my business from home. During 2021, I completely renovated my basement to turn it into a dedicated home office space. Since the entire basement was going to be used exclusively for my business operations, I deducted all the renovation expenses (about $18,500) on my 2021 taxes as business startup costs on Schedule C - Profit or Loss From Business. Here's where I might have messed up. The business hasn't generated any revenue yet, so my Schedule C just shows a bunch of expenses and zero income. Last week I got a call from an IRS agent asking questions about these deductions. They requested all my receipts for the renovation work, and then started asking about what percentage of my home is being used for business, whether I've actively been trying to find clients, and if I've made any money from the business at all. The agent didn't say I was being audited or anything, but now I'm freaking out that I might have screwed up. Can you claim home renovation costs as business startup expenses if the business isn't making money yet? Should I be worried about this IRS call?
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Khalil Urso
What you're describing sounds like a potential issue with business startup costs vs. home office deductions - they're actually two different things with different rules. For startup costs, the IRS allows you to deduct up to $5,000 in the first year, with amounts over that deducted over 15 years. But these are typically for things like market research, business licenses, and initial advertising - not home renovations. For renovations to create a home office, that's usually handled through home office deductions, which require the space to be used regularly and exclusively for business. The bigger concern is that you've had no income for several years. The IRS may be questioning whether this is actually a business or a hobby, since businesses are expected to try to make a profit. Without income for multiple years, they might classify it as a hobby, which would disallow those deductions. The IRS call is definitely something to take seriously, but providing detailed documentation and explaining your legitimate business intent is your best path forward. I'd recommend gathering all receipts, a clear business plan showing steps you've taken to generate income, and perhaps consult with a tax professional before responding further.
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Myles Regis
•Does it matter if the basement is completely separate from the rest of the house? Like if it has its own entrance and bathroom and everything? Would that make it more likely to qualify as a legitimate business expense?
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Khalil Urso
•Having a separate entrance and facilities does strengthen your case for the space being exclusively for business use, which is important for home office deductions. It makes it clearer that there's a distinct separation between personal and business use. However, the bigger issue here isn't just about the physical space - it's about whether the IRS considers this a legitimate business or a hobby. Even with a perfect separate space, if you haven't made any effort to generate income or shown a profit in 3+ years, the IRS could still apply the "hobby loss rules" which would disallow your deductions regardless of how perfect your office space is.
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Miranda Singer
The biggest red flag I see in your situation is having several years with expenses but ZERO income. The IRS has something called the "hobby loss rule" where if you don't show a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years, they presume it's a hobby, not a business. When you claim business expenses with no income for multiple years, it's almost guaranteed to trigger a review. They're basically checking if you're actually trying to run a business or just claiming personal expenses as business deductions. My advice: Gather any evidence that shows you've been actively trying to make this business successful - marketing materials, business plans, client communications, anything that proves this is a legitimate business attempt rather than just a way to claim tax deductions.
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Cass Green
•How strict is the IRS with that 3-out-of-5 years rule? What if you've been genuinely trying to build a business but just haven't been successful at generating revenue yet?
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Miranda Singer
•The 3-out-of-5 years rule is what's called a "presumption" - it doesn't automatically disqualify your business, but it shifts the burden of proof to you to demonstrate that you have a genuine profit motive despite the losses. The IRS looks at several factors beyond just profitability: whether you run the activity in a businesslike manner, your expertise, time and effort invested, success in similar activities, history of income/losses, and most importantly - your efforts to improve profitability. Even with consecutive loss years, you can still successfully argue it's a legitimate business if you can show concrete steps you've taken to generate revenue and eventually become profitable.
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Finley Garrett
Has anyone used TurboTax to claim home office deductions like this? The software kept giving me warnings when I tried to deduct my home office renovation costs last year.
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Madison Tipne
•I use TaxAct and had a similar issue. For big home office renovations, you usually need to depreciate the costs over time rather than deduct them all at once. The software should walk you through Form 8829 (Expenses for Business Use of Your Home) but it gets tricky with major renovations because they're capital improvements.
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