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Lauren Zeb

How to handle capital loss carryover with current year capital gains?

I've been carrying forward a capital loss for several years now. My original investment went south and I'm still dealing with the aftermath. I know the IRS lets you deduct a maximum of $3000 per year against ordinary income. Right now I have about -$10000 left in carryover losses from this disaster. Here's my question: This year I actually had some good luck with investments and made around $7000 in capital gains. Can I use my entire $7000 gains against my $10000 carryover loss? Would this mean I'd still have $3000 in losses remaining that I could also claim as a deduction this year? Or is $3000 still the maximum total I can use regardless of my gains? Basically, am I allowed to subtract my $7000 gains from my $10000 carryover loss and then still claim the remaining $3000 loss as a deduction on my taxes this year? I'm trying to understand the most efficient way to use these carryover losses.

Yes, you can absolutely use your current year capital gains against your capital loss carryover! Here's how it works: First, your current year capital gains ($7000) will be offset by your capital loss carryover. This happens automatically - it's not subject to the $3000 limit. The $3000 limit only applies to capital losses used against ordinary income. So in your case, you would use $7000 of your $10000 loss carryover to completely offset your current year gains (resulting in $0 net capital gain for the year). Then, you would still have $3000 of remaining losses that you can use against your ordinary income this year. After this tax year, you'll have used up all $10000 of your loss carryover ($7000 against capital gains and $3000 against ordinary income).

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So just to make sure I understand... there's no limit to how much of my carryover losses I can use against actual capital gains in the current year? Only when deducting against regular income is there a $3000 limit? Is this also true if I had more gains than losses?

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That's exactly right! There's no limit to offsetting current year capital gains with capital losses (including carryover losses). The $3000 limit only applies when you're deducting capital losses against ordinary income like your wages. If you had more gains than losses, you would use all your losses against the gains, and then pay tax on the remaining gains. For example, if you had $12,000 in gains and $10,000 in carryover losses, you'd offset the gains with all your losses and have $2,000 in net capital gains that would be taxable.

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Anthony Young

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Does it work with documents from multiple brokerages? I've got stuff spread across Robinhood, Vanguard and some crypto exchanges. My tax situation is a mess with all these capital losses from 2022.

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Admin_Masters

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I'm always skeptical of these tax tools. How is this different from TurboTax or H&R Block software? Seems like just another way to get people to pay for tax help.

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Anthony Young

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It absolutely works with multiple brokerages! I had accounts with Fidelity, E*Trade and even some crypto stuff from Coinbase. You just upload all the statements or tax forms, and it consolidates everything. Really helpful when you've got investments scattered everywhere. Regarding how it's different from TurboTax - TurboTax is great for filing, but it doesn't really analyze your specific situation or explain the tax implications beforehand. This is more like having a tax pro look at your documents and give you strategic advice, but it's automated. I still used TurboTax to file, but with a much better understanding of how to handle my capital losses.

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Admin_Masters

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Ella Thompson

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JacksonHarris

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No way this actually works. I've tried EVERYTHING to get through to the IRS during tax season. Even my accountant can't get through. If this worked everyone would be using it. I'll stick to sending certified mail and waiting 8 weeks for a response.

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They don't have any special connection to the IRS - they just use technology to wait on hold for you. Basically, their system dials repeatedly until it gets through, then it waits on hold, and when it detects a human voice (the IRS agent), it calls your phone and connects you. You don't have to sit there listening to hold music for hours. It definitely works! I was super skeptical too, but I was desperate after trying for weeks to get through. The longest part was still waiting for my turn in the IRS queue, but I was doing other things during that time instead of being trapped on the phone. When they connected me, I was talking to an actual IRS agent who answered all my capital loss questions.

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JacksonHarris

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Don't forget to check if your state handles capital loss carryovers the same way as federal. I live in MA and found out they have different rules - instead of $3k limit against ordinary income, it's only $2k in my state. Almost filed incorrectly before catching this!

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Royal_GM_Mark

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What form do you use to report the capital loss carryover from previous years? Is it just part of Schedule D or is there a separate form? My tax software is asking for the "carryover worksheet" but I can't find it from last year.

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You report it all on Schedule D and the Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet. The carryover worksheet should be included with your tax software - it's not a separate IRS form you file, but rather a worksheet that helps you calculate the correct amount to carry over. If you can't find last year's worksheet, you can recalculate your carryover by looking at last year's Schedule D. Look at line 16 (if it's negative) - that's your total loss. If it's more negative than -$3000, then the difference between that number and -$3000 is your carryover to this year.

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Quick question for anyone who knows - if I have capital loss carryover and also did a Roth conversion this year, can I use the capital losses to offset the income from the Roth conversion? Or does that count as ordinary income subject to the $3000 limit?

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Income from a Roth conversion is considered ordinary income, not capital gains. So you would be limited to offsetting only $3,000 of that conversion income with your capital losses. Capital losses first offset capital gains (without limit), then up to $3,000 can offset ordinary income (like your Roth conversion), and anything beyond that carries forward to future years.

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Thanks for clearing that up! That makes sense - too bad though, was hoping to use more of my losses against the conversion. Guess I'll be carrying these losses forward for a few more years.

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This is such a great question and the answers here are spot on! I went through something very similar last year. Had about $8,000 in carryover losses from some bad stock picks in 2021, then finally had a good year with $5,000 in capital gains. Just to add to what others have said - make sure you keep good records of your carryover losses year to year. I almost lost track of mine and had to dig through old tax returns to reconstruct the carryover worksheet. The IRS doesn't send you a reminder of what you're carrying forward, so it's on you to track it. Also, if you're using tax software, it should automatically calculate this for you once you enter your prior year carryover and current year gains/losses. But it's still good to understand how it works like you're doing. You'll use $7,000 of your carryover against your gains, then $3,000 against ordinary income, leaving you with $0 carryover going into next year. Pretty efficient way to finally clear out those old losses!

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Liam O'Connor

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This is really helpful advice about keeping good records! I'm new to dealing with capital loss carryovers and didn't realize the IRS doesn't track this for you. Quick question - when you say "reconstruct the carryover worksheet," where exactly do you find that information on old tax returns? Is it a specific line on Schedule D I should be looking for? I want to make sure I'm carrying forward the right amount this year.

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