How to Get Interest Abated from the IRS After Receiving Unwanted Advanced Child Tax Credits
I need some advice about getting interest abated from the IRS. Back in 2021, my family relocated to Singapore for work, and during that time the IRS automatically deposited Advanced Child Tax Credits into my account. I had no idea I was receiving these payments since we were settling into life overseas, and honestly with the time difference and chaos of moving internationally, I wasn't checking my US accounts regularly. Fast forward to this year - I filed my 2021 taxes late because I got a letter saying I was eligible for stimulus money for my daughter who was born in November 2021. After filing, the IRS sent back a notice saying I owe all the ACTC money plus around $430 in interest and a $550 penalty. I called the IRS and managed to get the penalty removed, but they're still charging me interest. I understand reasonable cause doesn't apply to interest abatement, but could I argue this was a managerial error since the IRS never notified me they were depositing money I'd have to pay back? They just put it in my account while I was living abroad! It feels unfair that they'd deposit money without my request, not inform me properly, and then charge interest when I didn't even realize I needed to pay it back. With all the COVID stimulus confusion and living overseas, I never questioned these deposits. Does anyone have experience getting interest abated in a situation like this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Aria Park
You're dealing with a tricky but not uncommon situation. The Advanced Child Tax Credit payments were automatically issued based on your previous year's tax return information, and the IRS did send notices (Letter 6417) to recipients, but those obviously don't always reach people who've moved internationally. For interest abatement, you're on the right track thinking about administrative errors. The IRS can abate interest under IRC Section 6404(e) if the interest accrued due to an unreasonable IRS error or delay. Your argument about them failing to properly notify you before depositing funds you didn't request while you were living abroad could potentially qualify. When you contact them, emphasize that you never requested these payments, had moved internationally (which the IRS wouldn't have known), and that you took prompt action once you became aware of the issue. Be specific that you're requesting interest abatement under Section 6404(e) due to the IRS's failure to ensure you were properly notified before sending unrequested funds. You might need to file Form 843 (Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement) and clearly explain your circumstances. Include any documentation showing your international move dates to strengthen your case.
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Noah Ali
•Does it matter that the IRS was just following the law when they sent out the ACTC payments? I thought those were automatic for everyone, not something the IRS did wrong. Will they actually consider this a "managerial error"?
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Aria Park
•The automatic nature of the payments doesn't necessarily prevent this from being considered an administrative error. While the IRS was following the law by issuing the payments, they have procedures for ensuring taxpayers are properly informed, especially regarding payments that might need to be repaid. If you can demonstrate that their notification process failed to reach you despite them having reasonable means to know you had relocated internationally, you can argue this represents a procedural failure. The key is focusing on the lack of effective notification rather than the issuance of the payments themselves. The IRS has an obligation to take reasonable steps to inform taxpayers about significant actions affecting their tax situation, and if they failed to do so despite having information indicating you had moved abroad, this strengthens your case for interest abatement.
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Chloe Boulanger
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James Martinez
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Olivia Harris
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Chloe Boulanger
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Olivia Harris
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Alexander Zeus
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Alicia Stern
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Gabriel Graham
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Drake
Just wanted to share - I got my interest fully abated in a similar situation by specifically citing Internal Revenue Manual 20.2.7.7, which covers interest abatement due to IRS errors or delays. The key was documenting that they had my foreign address from my FBAR filing but still sent important notices to my old US address. I also referenced the Taxpayer Bill of Rights which includes the right to be informed. Since the IRS didn't properly inform you about these payments while you were overseas, you have a strong case!
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Lucas Notre-Dame
•Thank you for sharing this specific IRM reference! This is exactly the kind of information I was hoping for. Did you handle this over the phone or did you need to submit something in writing with documentation?
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Drake
•I started over the phone by speaking with an IRS representative and explaining my situation, citing the specific IRM section. The agent advised me to follow up with a written request using Form 843. I attached documentation showing they had my foreign address on file (copies of previous correspondence I'd sent them with my updated address) and a timeline showing when I discovered the payments. I also included a short, clear letter explaining exactly why this qualified as an administrative error under IRM 20.2.7.7 and referencing the Taxpayer Bill of Rights. The whole process took about 8 weeks from submission to receiving confirmation that the interest was abated. Keep your explanation factual and concise - the clearer you make it for them, the more likely you are to succeed.
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Sarah Jones
Be careful with interest abatement requests. I tried similar arguments last year and got rejected because I technically had online access to my IRS account and "should have" checked it. Make sure u document EVERYTHING and be super specific about why this was an IRS error not just confusion on ur part.
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Sebastian Scott
•That's a good point! The IRS does expect you to check your online account. But I think OP has a stronger case since they moved internationally and explicitly mention they weren't regularly checking US accounts. That's different from someone living in the US who just didn't log in.
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