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Jamal Harris

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One thing nobody mentioned yet is that the rules are different for the different education tax benefits. For American Opportunity Credit, room and board are NOT qualified expenses, but for the Lifetime Learning Credit, certain housing costs CAN be if they're required fees paid directly to the institution. Check if your university housing is required for your program. Some graduate programs require on-campus housing for first-year students, which might change how it's treated. Also, don't forget that required textbooks and supplies are qualified education expenses, even if purchased somewhere other than the university bookstore!

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GalaxyGlider

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Does this mean I should be keeping all my textbook receipts? I spent like $900 on books this semester but wasn't planning to include that since it's not on my 1098-T. Can I actually claim that?

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Jamal Harris

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Yes, absolutely keep all your textbook receipts! The IRS specifically states that required textbooks are qualified education expenses for tax credits, even though they don't appear on your 1098-T. For the American Opportunity Credit in particular, required books, supplies and equipment are qualified expenses even if you don't buy them from the school. Just make sure you can verify they were required for your courses - having the syllabus that lists required materials is good supporting documentation.

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Mei Wong

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For anyone struggling with 1098-T and education expenses, don't forget to check Box 1 vs Box 5 on the form! Box 1 shows payments RECEIVED by the school, while Box 5 shows scholarships/grants. If Box 5 is higher than Box 1, you technically received a refund of excess financial aid that might be taxable income depending on how you used it.

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Liam Sullivan

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This just confused me more. My Box 5 is higher than Box 1 because I got more aid than my tuition cost, and they refunded the extra to my bank account, which I used for apartment rent. So is that taxable or not??

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Amara Okafor

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The 1098-T is so confusing because some schools report in Box 1 (payments received) and others use Box 2 (amounts billed). My school uses Box 2 and leaves Box 1 empty, which makes calculating everything a nightmare.

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How to calculate the U.S. Childcare Tax Credit for 2025? My tax software seems wrong

I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure out this childcare tax credit calculation for my 2024 taxes (filing in 2025). I've been using TurboTax for years because it's convenient with the auto-fill features, but I think it's messing up my childcare credit this year. Here's my situation: I paid about $4,650 for my son's daycare last year. From what I understand, the maximum eligible expense is $3,000 for one child and $6,000 for two or more children. My AGI is around $78,000, which puts me in the highest income bracket (over $43,000), meaning I should get a credit rate of 20%. The math seems straightforward: $3,000 Γ— 0.2 = $600 credit. But TurboTax is telling me I'm getting $571 instead. When I questioned this, they wanted me to pay an extra $85 for their "expert review" to explain the calculation. I declined, and they made me check this box basically saying the IRS might flag my return as suspicious if I did my own math. Even weirder, when I initially entered the full $4,650 I paid, it calculated a $659 credit, which doesn't make sense either. I thought maybe it wasn't capping at the $3,000 limit automatically, so I changed my input to exactly $3,000, and that's when it gave me the $571 figure. I don't have any employer-provided dependent care benefits or anything else that should be affecting this calculation. It's just a simple percentage of my expenses, right? Where is that missing $29 going? Is TurboTax trying to squeeze me for more money, or am I missing something about Form 2441 calculations?

The Child and Dependent Care Credit calculation gets more complicated if you have any changes in care providers during the year. Did you use different providers at different times? That could explain the discrepancy. Also, check if you're entering the provider's Tax ID correctly. Sometimes the software automatically validates this against IRS records and makes adjustments if there are discrepancies. Another thing to consider is whether any portion of your payments might be considered educational rather than care. The IRS treats these differently, and sometimes pre-K programs are partially classified as educational expenses rather than care expenses.

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Emma Bianchi

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We used the same provider all year - it's a daycare center at a local community college. They provided me with their Tax ID number which I entered exactly as they gave it to me. The educational vs. care distinction is interesting - could that be why the software is reducing my eligible expenses? The program is called "Early Childhood Learning Center" but it's definitely daycare while I'm at work, not a school. Do I need to clarify this somehow in my filing?

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That's definitely what's happening then. When a provider has "Learning Center" in the name, tax software often flags it for partial educational expense allocation, even though it's functioning as childcare while you work. You'll need to override this in the software by specifically indicating that the primary purpose is care, not education. In TurboTax, there should be a question about the "nature of the services provided" where you can specify it's for care while you work. Make sure that's correctly marked. If the software doesn't allow you to override this, you might need to enter the provider twice - once for the "care" portion and once for what they're misclassifying as "educational," though this isn't technically correct and could create other issues.

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Liam O'Reilly

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Has anyone figured out if expenses for overnight camps qualify? My kids attended a week-long summer camp last year, and I've been getting conflicting information about whether I can include those costs for the Child and Dependent Care Credit.

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Chloe Delgado

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Overnight camps definitely do NOT qualify for the Child and Dependent Care Credit. The IRS is very clear about this in Publication 503. Only day camps can qualify. The reasoning is that overnight camps are considered primarily for entertainment rather than for care that enables you to work. Day camps (even specialty ones like sports or computer camps) CAN qualify if they allow you to work or look for work, but any overnight program is specifically excluded by IRS rules.

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Liam O'Reilly

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Thanks for clarifying that! I had a feeling overnight camps wouldn't qualify, but my neighbor insisted they included their kids' sleepaway camp on their taxes. I'll stick with just claiming the day camps my kids attended. Do you know if there's any way to deduct overnight camps under a different tax benefit? Or are those expenses just completely non-deductible?

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Sofia Morales

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're working while in school, check if you qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit. Even as a student with part-time income, you might be eligible if your income is below certain thresholds. Also, look into whether your state offers any additional education deductions or credits. Some states have their own education benefits that are separate from federal ones.

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Can I get the Earned Income Credit if my parents still claim me as a dependent though? And how do I find out what my state offers for students specifically?

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Sofia Morales

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You generally can't claim the Earned Income Credit if someone can claim you as a dependent, so that would rule you out if your parents are claiming you. For state-specific education benefits, just search "[your state] education tax credits" or check your state's department of revenue website. Most states have a dedicated section for education-related tax benefits. Some states like Minnesota, Wisconsin, and New York have fairly generous education deductions or credits even beyond what's available federally.

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Dmitry Popov

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Just FYI, I made a mistake my freshman year by not keeping receipts for my textbooks and required materials. Make sure you're saving ALL receipts for anything education-related, and get documentation from your department that the laptop and software were required for your program. That documentation can make a huge difference if there's ever a question about whether those were qualified education expenses!

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Ava Garcia

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This is true! I work at a university financial aid office, and we always tell students to keep all receipts and even emails/syllabus pages that show requirements. The IRS can be picky about what counts as a "required" educational expense vs. a personal preference.

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Just a heads up that your state might have different rules about deductions for children and families. I live in California and learned that some states have additional credits or deductions for new parents that aren't available federally. Might be worth checking your state's tax department website to see if there's anything specific you should be documenting.

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Dmitry Popov

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That's a good point! I'm in New York - do you happen to know if there are any specific child-related tax benefits here that I should be aware of?

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New York does have its own child tax credit that's based on the federal credit, but with some differences. They also have a specific credit for childcare expenses which is separate from the federal one. I'd recommend checking the NY State Department of Taxation and Finance website for the specifics. I found that my state credit was actually pretty significant - it was worth keeping extra documentation for childcare expenses even though the federal benefit wasn't huge for my situation. Every state has different rules, so definitely look into the NY-specific credits.

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Paolo Ricci

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Speaking as someone who just went through this first last year - one thing nobody mentioned is that if you had a FSA (Flexible Spending Account) or HSA (Health Savings Account) through your work for healthcare, you DEFINITELY want to keep all those medical receipts for the birth and prenatal care! You can use those accounts to pay for qualified medical expenses tax-free. The midwife, ultrasounds, and birth costs would all qualify for FSA/HSA reimbursement. The baby shower and registry items wouldn't, though.

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Amina Toure

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Do you know if breast pumps and nursing supplies qualify for FSA/HSA? My HR department gave me conflicting answers.

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I've been a home care provider for 5 years now and wanted to add a few things that might help. Make sure you keep all receipts for anything you buy specifically for the child's care - special utensils, educational materials, safety equipment, etc. These are all deductible business expenses! Also, if you're using part of your home "regularly and exclusively" for the business, definitely track all associated costs. I deduct a percentage (based on square footage) of my utilities, internet, cleaning supplies, and even my homeowner's insurance. For mileage, get a dedicated log book and record EVERYTHING the day it happens - trying to recreate it later is a nightmare. And yes, transportation between work locations is absolutely deductible.

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LilMama23

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Thanks for the insights from your experience! Quick question - I have a play area set up that's pretty much only for the child during care hours, but my kids sometimes use it on weekends. Does that disqualify it from being "exclusively" for business?

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That's a great question about the play area. The "exclusive use" test is pretty strict with the IRS. If your family uses the area on weekends, it technically wouldn't qualify for the home office deduction under the exclusive use requirement. However, there's a special rule for daycare providers that might apply to your situation. If you're a licensed care provider, you can still take the deduction even if the space is used for personal purposes during non-business hours. The deduction would be prorated based on both the percentage of your home used AND the time it's used for business. For example, if you use 20% of your home for 40 hours a week (out of 168 total hours), you'd multiply those percentages to get your business use percentage.

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TechNinja

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Has anyone tried using the QBO Self-Employed app for tracking all this stuff? I'm just starting out as a caregiver and feeling overwhelmed by all the tracking.

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I use it and love it! You can track mileage automatically with the app - it uses GPS to log your trips and then you just swipe left for personal or right for business. Super easy to categorize expenses too - it connects to your bank account and credit cards. The quarterly tax estimate feature is worth the subscription alone.

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