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How do LLC write-offs affect borrowing power with lenders when they lower taxable income?

The reason I'm asking this is because I know lenders always check how much you're making when deciding on loans. I've got an LLC and I'm getting confused about the tax write-offs. If I use all these write-offs to make my taxable income look smaller, wouldn't the lenders think I'm not making enough to qualify for loans? I'm just trying to understand the whole picture here. It almost seems like I should be taking fewer write-offs so I'd pay MORE in taxes just to show lenders I have a higher income. Is that actually how it works? Seems counterintuitive to pay extra taxes just to look good on paper to lenders... but maybe that's the reality?

This is actually a really common confusion for small business owners. Lenders understand the difference between tax returns and actual business performance. When you apply for loans, most lenders will ask for both your tax returns AND your business financial statements (profit and loss, balance sheet). The financial statements show your true business performance before those tax write-offs. A good lender will do what's called "adding back" certain expenses like depreciation, legitimate business travel, and other non-cash expenses to get a more accurate picture of your cash flow. They're looking at your ability to service debt, not just the taxable income number.

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That makes sense but what about things like a home office deduction or vehicle expenses? Do they add those back too? Because I'm deducting a lot of mileage and part of my house but those are real expenses I'm paying...

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For home office and vehicle expenses, most lenders recognize these as discretionary expenses that don't impact your actual cash flow in the same way as other costs. While they are real expenses you're paying, you'd still have your home and vehicle whether or not you were using them for business. For self-employed borrowers, lenders typically look at what's called "debt service coverage ratio" which analyzes your true cash flow. Many lenders will add back depreciation, amortization, and even owner's compensation to determine your real ability to make loan payments.

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Did you have to provide them with your actual accounting records too or just your tax returns? I use QuickBooks but my record keeping isn't exactly perfect lol

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That sounds like an ad tbh. Did it really work with an actual bank? I've been trying to get a business loan and my banker just keeps saying "these write-offs are killing your debt-to-income ratio" even though my business is doing fine.

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I just uploaded my tax returns and then my profit and loss statement from QuickBooks. It didn't need to be perfect - the system is pretty smart about categorizing expenses. It even flagged a few things I hadn't properly categorized. It actually did work with my lender which was a major national bank. I was skeptical too at first, but my loan officer specifically mentioned that the report made it much easier for the underwriters to approve my loan because it clearly showed which expenses were affecting cash flow versus tax write-offs that didn't impact my ability to pay a mortgage.

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Sounds like BS to me. Banks have specific underwriting guidelines and no phone service is going to change that. I've been through three business loan applications and it always comes down to the numbers on paper.

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I'm a mortgage broker and I see this ALL THE TIME with self-employed folks. Here's what typically happens: 1. We use what's called "Stated Income" on your tax returns - that's the bottom line 2. Then we add back depreciation, amortization, home office, etc 3. We also look at "extraordinary expenses" that were one-time costs 4. We average your last 2 years of returns after these add-backs Some lenders are way better with self-employed borrowers than others. The big banks tend to be strict while smaller lenders often have more flexibility with how they calculate your income.

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Do you add back things like business meals and travel expenses too? I write off a lot of that stuff but those are real costs I'm paying.

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Meals and travel are typically considered normal business expenses and are not usually added back. The add-backs generally focus on non-cash expenses like depreciation or one-time extraordinary expenses that won't affect future cash flow. However, if you can document that certain travel or meal expenses were truly exceptional and non-recurring (like a one-time conference or special event), some lenders might consider those for add-back as well. It really depends on the specific lender's guidelines and how your loan officer presents your file to underwriting.

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Has anyone tried just keeping 2 sets of books? Like one for taxes with max write-offs and another one showing your actual profit for lenders? Not talking about anything illegal just different ways of presenting the same info.

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That's actually a common practice. Not "2 sets of books" in the shady way, but having your tax returns optimized for tax purposes and then separate financial statements that show your true business performance. Most accounting software can generate different reports for different purposes from the same data.

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This is such a great question and honestly one that trips up a lot of LLC owners! I went through this same struggle when I was trying to get financing for equipment last year. The key thing I learned is that you DON'T have to choose between tax savings and loan approval - you just need to present your financials correctly. Most business lenders are actually pretty sophisticated about this stuff. They know that smart business owners take legitimate deductions. What really helped me was preparing a simple one-page summary alongside my tax returns that showed: - My net income from Schedule C (the taxed amount) - Add-backs for depreciation, home office, mileage, etc. - My "adjusted income" for lending purposes I also kept clean P&L statements in QuickBooks that showed my actual business cash flow before tax strategies. When I brought both documents to my lender, they immediately understood what they were looking at and had no issues with the loan approval. The bottom line is: take your legitimate tax deductions AND get your loans. You just need to tell the story properly to lenders who understand business finances.

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This is really helpful! I'm in a similar situation and have been stressing about this exact issue. Quick question - when you say "adjusted income for lending purposes," did you use any specific terminology or format that lenders expect? I want to make sure I'm presenting this the right way and not just making up my own categories that might confuse them. Also, how detailed did you get with the add-backs? Like did you break down every single deduction or just group the major ones?

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