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Does adding depreciation from mileage actually increase verified income for mortgage loan approval?

So I'm in the process of getting a mortgage, and my mortgage officer told me something weird that I'm not sure about. He said when I write off business miles on my self-employed taxes, my "verified income" for the mortgage would actually INCREASE by $0.26 for every mile I deduct. Like if I reported $10,000 income on my tax return but wrote off 1 mile, my verified income for the loan would be $10,000.26. He even suggested I should write off a specific number of miles to get my income high enough to qualify for the loan I want. This supposedly works because some banks look at income after deductions in a certain way. I actually went ahead and amended my 2022 taxes to do this because I really wanted the house. But now I'm having serious second thoughts. It feels sketchy. Does this mileage deduction trick actually make any sense? Is this a normal thing mortgage officers suggest? Should I amend my taxes AGAIN to remove all the mileage deductions? I don't want to do anything that would get me in trouble with the IRS or the bank.

This is actually a common misunderstanding about how self-employment income is calculated for mortgage purposes. When you're self-employed and take the standard mileage deduction, lenders typically add back a portion of that deduction to your income because they consider depreciation as a "paper expense" rather than an actual cash outflow. The standard mileage rate (58.5 cents per mile in 2022) includes several components - actual operating expenses like gas and maintenance, but also a portion for depreciation of your vehicle (roughly 26 cents of that rate). Many mortgage underwriters will add back this depreciation component since it's not an actual cash expense. So yes, technically your "qualifying income" could increase slightly with mileage deductions, but amending tax returns specifically to manipulate this is problematic for several reasons. First, tax returns should reflect your actual business expenses, not be manipulated for loan purposes. Second, if the lender discovers you amended returns just to qualify, they may question your application's integrity.

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Wait, so is this actually legal? My broker suggested something similar but I was afraid of getting in trouble with the IRS. Are there any downsides to doing this?

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The issue isn't with the lender's income calculation method - that's standard practice. The problem is amending tax returns specifically to manipulate qualifying income. Your tax returns should always reflect your actual business activities and legitimate expenses. Amending returns solely to qualify for a mortgage could potentially be considered mortgage fraud if you're claiming expenses that aren't legitimate. The IRS requires that business expenses, including mileage, be "ordinary and necessary" for your business. If you're artificially inflating mileage without actual business drives, that's a problem.

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I've been helping clients with mortgage preapprovals for years and I just wanted to share my experience with this exact situation. I had a self-employed client who was just below the income threshold for qualification, and we looked at legitimate ways to improve their application. That's when I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) which helped analyze their tax return and identified several areas where their income was being unnecessarily reduced. The tool analyzed their Schedule C and found that they were taking the standard mileage deduction rather than actual expenses, but hadn't properly documented all business trips. By properly categorizing expenses and documenting legitimate business mileage, they were able to present a more accurate financial picture to the lender. The mortgage underwriter added back the depreciation component of the mileage deduction since it's a non-cash expense.

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How exactly does taxr.ai work with self-employment income? I'm an Uber driver and take huge mileage deductions. Would this help me qualify for a bigger loan?

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I'm skeptical of any service claiming they can magically increase your qualifying income. Sounds like promoting tax games that could get people in trouble. Does this actually work with major banks or just some shady lenders?

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The service works by analyzing your tax return and identifying potential areas where your income might be underrepresented for lending purposes. For rideshare drivers, it's particularly helpful because it can distinguish between the actual cash expenses in your mileage deduction versus the depreciation component that lenders may add back. Many drivers don't realize that a significant portion of their deduction isn't affecting their actual cash flow. It absolutely works with major banks and reputable lenders. This isn't about playing games with numbers, but rather presenting your financial situation accurately. Lenders have specific guidelines for calculating self-employment income that differ from tax calculations, and the tool helps bridge that gap by showing you what lenders actually see when reviewing your returns.

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I was really skeptical about all this mileage deduction stuff for mortgage qualification, so I decided to try taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. I was surprised to find that my 40,000 miles in business driving last year was actually HURTING my ability to get a mortgage, but not in the way I thought. The analysis showed that I had legitimate mileage but was documenting it poorly, and banks were questioning whether all of it was truly for business. The report helped me organize my mileage logs better and showed how lenders actually add back the depreciation portion of my mileage deduction when calculating my income. When I brought the report to my new mortgage broker, they were able to justify a higher income calculation to the underwriter. I got approved for my mortgage last week! But the important thing is that I didn't have to change any legitimate deductions - just better understand how they affect mortgage qualification.

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So I went through something similar last year when trying to get approved for a home loan. After multiple rejections, I realized I needed to speak directly with an IRS agent to understand how my business mileage deductions were affecting my reported income. But as we all know, getting through to the IRS is nearly impossible. That's when I found Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and watched their demo at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. Basically, they get you on the phone with an actual IRS agent in minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. I was able to ask specifically about amending returns and how mileage deductions are viewed for mortgage applications. The IRS agent confirmed that amending returns solely to manipulate income for a mortgage could be problematic, but they explained exactly how legitimate business mileage should be documented. They also clarified that while adding back depreciation is a lender practice, not an IRS one, all deductions on tax returns need to be legitimate business expenses.

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Sounds like BS to me. Nobody can get through to the IRS faster. They probably just keep you on hold themselves and charge you for it. And even if you did talk to an agent, they wouldn't advise you on mortgage qualification - that's not their job.

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It's actually a call system that monitors the IRS phone lines and alerts you when it's about to connect, so you don't have to wait on hold. It calls the same exact number everyone else does, but uses technology to handle the waiting part. When an agent is about to pick up, you get an alert and jump on the call. You're right that IRS agents don't specifically advise on mortgage qualification - I asked about the tax implications of amending returns and the proper documentation needed for business mileage deductions. The agent explained that all deductions need to be legitimate and properly documented, which is what matters from a tax perspective. How lenders interpret that information is separate from the IRS's concern.

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I tried that Claimyr service after posting my skeptical comment. I had been trying to get through to the IRS for WEEKS about my mileage deductions question and kept hitting dead ends. The service actually worked - I was connected to an IRS agent in about 27 minutes when I had previously waited 3+ hours multiple times without success. The agent confirmed exactly what I needed to know: amending a tax return solely to manipulate income for a mortgage could potentially be considered fraud if the expenses aren't legitimate. However, they also explained that properly documenting ACTUAL business mileage is completely legitimate. I ended up providing my lender with detailed mileage logs for my legitimate business driving rather than amending my return. They were able to calculate my income appropriately, and I got approved last week. Honestly saved me from potentially making a big mistake with an unnecessary amendment.

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Former mortgage underwriter here. What your mortgage officer suggested is technically correct but ethically questionable. When we calculate self-employed income for loan qualification, we DO add back certain "paper expenses" like depreciation because they don't affect your actual cash flow. The standard mileage deduction (58.5¢/mile in 2022) includes about 26¢ for depreciation. So yes, each mile you deduct technically increases your "qualifying income" by about 26¢ in the eyes of a mortgage underwriter. HOWEVER - and this is a big however - amending tax returns specifically to game this system is very problematic. If an underwriter sees a recently amended return that suddenly has a huge mileage deduction, it raises major red flags. Plus, claiming business expenses that aren't legitimate is tax fraud.

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Thanks for this explanation. So it sounds like the math my mortgage officer mentioned is technically correct, but the advice to amend my returns specifically for this purpose was not great. If I did amend my return and added a bunch of mileage deductions specifically for this purpose, should I file another amendment to fix it? I'm worried about potential issues down the road.

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If you claimed mileage that wasn't actually for legitimate business purposes, then yes, you should consider filing another amendment to correct it. The risk isn't just with the mortgage approval - it's potential tax fraud if you're claiming deductions you're not entitled to. However, if the mileage you claimed was legitimate business mileage that you simply hadn't planned to deduct originally, that's different. In that case, the deduction is valid, even if your timing was motivated by the mortgage application. The key question is whether the miles were actually driven for business purposes and can be documented if audited.

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Quick question for anyone who knows - does this mileage depreciation add-back work for other self-employed deductions too? I'm self-employed and take a home office deduction and some equipment depreciation. Would mortgage lenders add those back too?

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Yes, mortgage lenders typically add back most forms of depreciation when calculating qualifying income for self-employed borrowers. This includes vehicle depreciation (either through the standard mileage rate or actual expenses method), equipment/machinery depreciation, and sometimes even a portion of home office deductions. The concept is that depreciation is a "paper expense" that reduces your taxable income but doesn't actually reduce your cash flow in the current year. Lenders are trying to determine your actual ability to make monthly payments, so they focus on cash flow rather than taxable income. That's why most loan guidelines allow underwriters to add these expenses back.

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This is a really important topic that I think a lot of self-employed people struggle with. I've been through the mortgage process twice as a freelancer, and I want to emphasize something that some of the other commenters have touched on but bears repeating: there's a huge difference between legitimate business expenses and manufactured deductions. The math your mortgage officer explained is correct - lenders do add back depreciation components because they're non-cash expenses. But the key word here is "legitimate." If you're claiming mileage for trips you actually took for business purposes, that's fine. If you're making up miles or claiming personal trips as business trips just to qualify for a mortgage, that's fraud. I'd strongly recommend getting your actual business mileage properly documented and organized rather than trying to game the system. Keep detailed logs of business trips, save receipts, and make sure everything you claim is defensible if you're ever audited. The mortgage approval isn't worth the risk of IRS problems down the road. Also, consider working with a mortgage broker who specializes in self-employed borrowers - they understand these income calculations better than general loan officers and can help you present your financial picture accurately without cutting corners.

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This is really helpful advice, especially about working with a mortgage broker who specializes in self-employed borrowers. I'm just starting out as a freelancer and haven't bought a house yet, but I'm already worried about how my irregular income and business deductions will look to lenders. Do you have any recommendations for how to prepare for the mortgage process early on? Like, should I be keeping different records than what I normally would for just tax purposes? And how far in advance should I start working with a specialized broker - is it something you do months before you're ready to buy, or just when you find a house you want? I feel like there's so much conflicting advice out there about self-employment and mortgages, and stories like the original post make me nervous about making mistakes.

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