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Mateo Martinez

How do I explain receiving both K1 and W2 income from the same business to my tax preparer?

I recently transitioned from being just an employee to becoming a partner at a small business. Currently, I receive W2 income for my regular job duties plus K1 income representing my share of profits/losses as a partner. Our partnership agreement clearly separates employment from ownership. This means I could potentially leave my position (or be let go) and stop receiving W2 income, but would still maintain my partner status and continue receiving K1 distributions as an owner. The problem is my tax preparer is adamant that this arrangement is illegal. She keeps insisting I can't receive both W2 and K1 income from the same business. I've tried explaining that the W2 is for my specific job responsibilities while the K1 reflects my ownership share, but she's not buying it. Is this actually a problematic arrangement? How do I properly explain this situation to my tax preparer? Or should I be looking for a new preparer who understands this type of dual-income scenario?

This is absolutely legal and fairly common. Many small business partnerships operate exactly as you've described. Partners can receive both guaranteed payments for services (reported on W-2) and distributive shares of partnership income (reported on K-1). The key is that your compensation as an employee (W-2) needs to be reasonable for the work you're performing, and separate from your distributions as a partner (K-1). The partnership agreement you described clearly establishes this separation, which is good documentation to have. Your tax preparer might be confusing this with S-corporation rules, where shareholders who work in the business must be paid a reasonable salary on a W-2 before taking distributions. Partnership taxation works differently. I'd suggest bringing a copy of your partnership agreement to your next meeting and perhaps pointing your preparer to IRS Publication 541 (Partnerships), which covers this topic.

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But isn't there something weird about the same person getting both? I thought partners were supposed to get guaranteed payments instead of W-2 wages. That's what my accountant told me.

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You're thinking of a slightly different situation. Partners can receive guaranteed payments, which are similar to salary but reported differently than W-2 wages. However, in many partnerships, especially larger ones or those with professional management structures, partners can absolutely be employees of the partnership entity and receive W-2 wages for specific job duties. The guaranteed payments approach is common too, but either method can be legitimate depending on how the partnership is structured. What matters is that the employment relationship is separate from the ownership interest, there's documentation supporting this arrangement, and the compensation is reasonable for the work performed.

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Just wanted to add - I'm a partner in a law firm and our structure is exactly like you described. All partners receive W-2 income for our day-to-day work as attorneys, plus K-1 distributions based on our ownership percentages. This has been reviewed by multiple accounting firms and is completely legitimate. The most important thing is having clear documentation in your partnership agreement that specifies the dual relationship. Your agreement should clarify that you have two separate roles: 1) as an employee performing specific duties, and 2) as an owner entitled to profit distributions. Your tax preparer might benefit from taking a continuing education course on partnership taxation - the rules can be complex and they change over time.

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Mei Liu

Do you have to pay self-employment tax on both the W-2 and K-1 income? I thought getting a W-2 might help reduce SE tax burden?

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You only pay FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) on your W-2 income, which are withheld automatically. For your K-1 income from the partnership, you typically pay self-employment tax on that portion, but there are exceptions depending on whether you're a general or limited partner and your level of activity in the business. The W-2 arrangement can be advantageous because the employer pays half of those FICA taxes, whereas with self-employment tax on partnership income, you effectively pay both halves. This is one reason why the dual structure can be beneficial when properly set up.

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Has your tax preparer explained WHY she thinks this arrangement is illegal? There are some situations where it could be problematic if not structured correctly.

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She keeps saying "partners can't be employees of their own partnership" and that "the IRS doesn't allow dual status." When I asked for specific regulations, she just said it's "common knowledge in the industry." The weird thing is she's been preparing my taxes for years and is generally knowledgeable. That's why I started doubting myself even though our partnership attorney said our arrangement is fine.

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Your tax preparer is partially right but applying the concept incorrectly. There's an old IRS revenue ruling (69-184) that says partners can't be employees of the partnership "for purposes of certain employee benefit provisions and employment taxes." But this doesn't mean you can't receive W-2 wages! It just affects how certain benefits are treated. Many partnerships still pay partners through W-2s for administrative convenience while recognizing the technical limitations on "employee" status for certain purposes. The confusion happens because the practical reality (partners getting W-2s) seems to conflict with the technical legal status. But thousands of partnerships operate this way without issue.

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I've been dealing with a similar situation and found that many tax preparers get confused about partnership taxation because the rules are genuinely complex and counterintuitive. The issue is that while partners technically aren't "employees" for certain IRS purposes, partnerships can still issue W-2s for guaranteed payments or compensation. What helped me was printing out IRS Publication 541 (Partnerships) and highlighting the relevant sections that discuss guaranteed payments and partner compensation. Also, Revenue Ruling 69-184 that others mentioned is key - it clarifies that the "partners aren't employees" rule applies to specific situations like unemployment insurance and worker's compensation, not to all forms of compensation. Your partnership agreement is your best defense here. As long as it clearly separates your role as an employee performing specific duties from your role as an owner receiving profit distributions, you should be fine. The IRS cares more about substance than form - if you're genuinely performing employee-type work that's separate from your ownership duties, W-2 treatment is appropriate. Consider bringing copies of these IRS publications to your next meeting. Sometimes tax preparers need to see the actual regulations to feel comfortable with unusual (but legal) arrangements.

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This is really helpful! I'm new to partnership taxation and was wondering - when you say "guaranteed payments," is that different from regular W-2 wages? I keep seeing both terms used and I'm getting confused about which one applies to my situation. My partnership agreement mentions both salary for my work duties and profit distributions for ownership, but I'm not sure how that translates to the actual tax forms.

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Great question! Guaranteed payments and W-2 wages are handled differently for tax purposes. Guaranteed payments are reported on Schedule K-1 (not W-2) and are subject to self-employment tax. They're payments to partners for services that are determined without regard to the partnership's income - think of them like a salary that gets paid regardless of whether the partnership makes money. W-2 wages, on the other hand, are what you'd receive if you're treated as an employee of the partnership. These have FICA taxes withheld and the partnership pays the employer portion of Social Security/Medicare taxes. In your case, if your partnership agreement specifies "salary for work duties," that could be structured either way - as guaranteed payments (reported on K-1) or as W-2 wages if you're treated as an employee. The profit distributions would definitely be on your K-1 as your share of partnership income. The key is consistency - whatever method your partnership chooses should be applied consistently and documented properly. Both approaches are legitimate, but they have different tax implications for you and the partnership.

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Your tax preparer's confusion is understandable but misguided. This is actually a very common arrangement in partnerships, especially professional service firms. The key distinction is that you're wearing two hats: one as an employee performing specific job duties, and another as an owner receiving profit distributions. The IRS absolutely allows this dual relationship. What matters is that your partnership agreement clearly documents both roles and that your W-2 compensation is reasonable for the actual work you perform (separate from your ownership interest). I'd recommend bringing IRS Revenue Ruling 69-184 to your next meeting - it specifically addresses this situation and confirms that partners can receive compensation for services rendered to the partnership. You might also want to reference Treasury Regulation 1.707-1(c), which discusses payments to partners for services. If your preparer continues to resist after seeing the actual IRS guidance, it might be time to find someone with more experience in partnership taxation. This arrangement is too common and well-established in tax law for a preparer to be this adamant about it being "illegal.

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I completely agree with this advice! I actually went through something very similar last year when I became a partner at my consulting firm. My original tax preparer had the exact same reaction - kept insisting it was impossible to get both W-2 and K-1 income from the same entity. What really helped was bringing in the actual IRS publications you mentioned, especially Revenue Ruling 69-184. Once my preparer saw the black and white guidance from the IRS, the whole tone of the conversation changed. It's frustrating when preparers rely on "common knowledge" instead of checking the actual regulations. One thing I'd add is that it's worth documenting exactly what services you perform as an "employee" versus what you receive as an owner. The IRS likes to see clear separation between compensation for work and distributions for ownership. Your partnership agreement should spell this out clearly, but it also helps to keep records of your specific job responsibilities that justify the W-2 income. If your current preparer won't budge even after seeing the IRS guidance, definitely find someone else. Partnership taxation can be tricky, and you need someone who's willing to research and learn rather than just stick to outdated assumptions.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share what finally convinced my stubborn tax preparer. After showing her all the IRS publications everyone mentioned (Revenue Ruling 69-184, Publication 541, etc.), what really sealed the deal was when I pointed out that major accounting firms routinely handle these exact arrangements for their partnership clients. I asked her to call a few CPAs at larger firms in our area, and sure enough, they all confirmed this is standard practice. Sometimes hearing it from peers in the industry carries more weight than reading IRS publications. The other thing that helped was explaining the business logic: partnerships often need partners to take on specific operational roles (like being a managing partner, department head, etc.) that go beyond just being an owner. It makes perfect sense to compensate those roles separately from profit distributions. Your arrangement sounds completely legitimate - just make sure your partnership agreement clearly defines your employee duties versus your ownership rights. That documentation will protect you if there are ever any questions down the road.

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That's a brilliant approach! I never thought about having my tax preparer call other CPAs for confirmation. Sometimes peer validation works better than official IRS documents, which is frustrating but practical. I'm curious - when you mentioned "major accounting firms routinely handle these arrangements," did they give you any insights about best practices for documenting the dual roles? I want to make sure our partnership agreement has all the right language to avoid future headaches. Also, did your preparer end up learning something new from those calls, or was she just reluctantly accepting the situation? I'm hoping my preparer will actually embrace this knowledge rather than just grudgingly file the returns correctly.

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I've been following this discussion with great interest as I'm facing a nearly identical situation at my accounting firm. What's particularly frustrating is how many tax preparers seem to have outdated or incomplete knowledge about partnership taxation. One resource that hasn't been mentioned yet is IRS Form 1065 Instructions, which explicitly discusses how partnerships can have partners who also receive compensation as employees. The instructions for Schedule K-1 also clarify the distinction between guaranteed payments and distributive shares. For those dealing with resistant preparers, I'd suggest asking them to show you the specific IRS code or regulation that prohibits dual W-2/K-1 income from the same partnership. When they can't produce it (because it doesn't exist), it often opens their minds to researching the actual rules. The reality is that partnership tax law is one of the most complex areas of the tax code, and many preparers simply don't encounter these situations frequently enough to stay current. Your business arrangement is not only legal but actually quite smart from a tax planning perspective, assuming your partnership agreement properly documents the separate roles. Don't let an uninformed preparer force you into a suboptimal tax structure. The documentation and IRS guidance everyone has shared here should be more than sufficient to resolve this issue.

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This is such valuable advice! I'm actually a newcomer to partnership structures and have been lurking in this community trying to understand all the complexities. Your point about asking preparers to show the specific prohibition is brilliant - it puts the burden of proof where it belongs. I'm curious about the tax planning advantages you mentioned. Beyond the FICA tax savings that others have discussed, are there other benefits to structuring compensation this way? I'm trying to understand whether this dual approach might make sense for our small professional services partnership that's currently considering bringing in new partners. Also, thank you for mentioning the Form 1065 Instructions - that's exactly the kind of authoritative source that seems to carry weight with preparers who are skeptical of partnership taxation nuances.

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As someone new to this community but dealing with a similar partnership tax situation, I want to thank everyone for sharing such detailed guidance! The resources mentioned here (Revenue Ruling 69-184, Publication 541, Form 1065 Instructions) are exactly what I needed to educate myself on partnership taxation. I'm particularly struck by how many experienced professionals have encountered the same resistance from tax preparers. It seems like there's a real knowledge gap in the industry when it comes to partnership structures that allow dual W-2/K-1 income. For others facing this issue, I'd recommend creating a "preparer education packet" with all the IRS references mentioned in this thread. Having everything organized in one place makes it much easier to have a productive conversation rather than trying to explain complex tax concepts on the spot. One question for the community: Are there any red flags or warning signs in partnership agreements that might actually make dual compensation problematic? I want to make sure our structure doesn't inadvertently create issues that could validate a preparer's concerns.

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Great question about red flags in partnership agreements! As someone who's navigated this exact situation, here are a few things to watch out for: 1. Vague language around compensation - your agreement should clearly distinguish between payment for services (W-2/guaranteed payments) versus profit distributions (K-1). Avoid generic terms like "partner compensation" that could blur the lines. 2. Unreasonable W-2 amounts - if your salary significantly exceeds what you'd pay an unrelated person for the same duties, the IRS might reclassify some of it as disguised distributions. Keep compensation at fair market value for the actual work performed. 3. Inconsistent treatment - if some partners get W-2s for similar duties while others don't, without clear business justification, it could raise questions about the legitimacy of the employee relationship. 4. Lack of substantive employee duties - the W-2 income needs to be tied to real, ongoing job responsibilities beyond just being a partner. Managing day-to-day operations, client relationships, or specific departments would qualify. Your "preparer education packet" idea is excellent! I wish I'd thought of that when dealing with my stubborn CPA. It would have saved several frustrating meetings where I was scrambling to find the right IRS citations on the spot.

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed by the depth of knowledge shared here about partnership taxation! Reading through this discussion has been incredibly educational, especially since I'm considering a similar transition from employee to partner at my workplace. The consensus seems clear that dual W-2/K-1 income from the same partnership is absolutely legal and common, despite some preparers' misconceptions. What strikes me most is how many experienced professionals have faced identical resistance from tax preparers who seem to be operating on outdated or incomplete information. I'm particularly grateful for all the specific IRS references mentioned - Revenue Ruling 69-184, Publication 541, Treasury Regulation 1.707-1(c), and Form 1065 Instructions. Having these authoritative sources compiled in one thread is invaluable for anyone needing to educate their preparer about legitimate partnership structures. For Mateo's original question, it sounds like your arrangement is not only legal but actually well-structured from a tax perspective. The key seems to be having clear documentation in your partnership agreement that separates your employee duties from your ownership interests, plus ensuring your W-2 compensation is reasonable for the actual work you perform. If your current preparer continues to resist after being shown the actual IRS guidance, it might indeed be time to find someone with more partnership taxation experience. Partnership tax law is complex, and you need a preparer who's willing to research and learn rather than rely on assumptions.

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Welcome to the community, Lucas! Your summary really captures the key takeaways from this discussion perfectly. As someone who's also relatively new to partnership structures, I found it reassuring to see how many experienced professionals have successfully navigated this exact situation. What really stands out to me is how this thread demonstrates the importance of being prepared with authoritative sources when dealing with tax preparers who might not be familiar with less common (but completely legal) arrangements. The "preparer education packet" idea that Emma mentioned earlier seems like such a practical approach. I'm curious - for those considering a similar employee-to-partner transition, are there any other tax implications or considerations beyond the W-2/K-1 structure that we should be thinking about? Things like estimated tax payments, retirement plan eligibility, or other benefits that might change with the dual status? Thanks to everyone who contributed their expertise to this discussion. It's threads like this that make tax planning feel much less intimidating when you're dealing with complex partnership arrangements!

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As someone new to this community, I want to echo what others have said - your arrangement is absolutely legitimate and your tax preparer is misinformed. I recently went through partnership training for my CPA continuing education, and dual W-2/K-1 compensation was covered extensively as a standard practice. What might help is explaining to your preparer that this isn't about "being an employee of your own partnership" in the traditional sense. You're providing services to the partnership entity in a capacity that's separate from your ownership interest. Think of it like a partner in a law firm who also serves as the managing partner - they get compensated for those additional management duties beyond their ownership distributions. The IRS specifically recognizes this distinction in multiple publications. Revenue Ruling 69-184 addresses the employee status question, but it's focused on specific benefits and employment tax issues, not on whether compensation can be paid via W-2. If showing her the IRS guidance doesn't work, you might ask your partnership attorney to provide a brief letter explaining the structure. Sometimes hearing it from a legal professional who specializes in partnership law carries more weight than client explanations. Your business structure makes perfect sense and is designed to properly separate compensation for work from returns on investment. Don't let an uninformed preparer force you into a less advantageous tax arrangement.

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This is such a helpful perspective, Natasha! Your point about the managing partner analogy really clarifies the concept well. I'm new to partnership taxation and that comparison makes it much easier to understand why someone would receive both W-2 compensation for specific duties AND K-1 distributions for ownership. The suggestion about getting a letter from the partnership attorney is brilliant - sometimes tax preparers need to hear complex legal concepts explained by someone in the legal field rather than trying to interpret IRS publications on their own. As a newcomer to this discussion, I'm impressed by how many different approaches people have shared for educating resistant preparers. Between the IRS citations, peer consultations, attorney letters, and professional education resources, there are so many ways to demonstrate that this arrangement is not only legal but actually quite common in the partnership world. Thank you for mentioning the CPA continuing education angle too - it's reassuring to know that this topic is actively being taught to tax professionals, even if some haven't kept up with the training!

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