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Am I considered an employee or partner for tax purposes as co-founder with equity?

I'm in a bit of a complicated situation with my business and could use some tax advice. About 8 months ago, I co-founded a tech startup with another person who's the CEO. He provided all the initial investment capital while I came on as the CTO. When we started, I signed what seemed like a pretty standard employment agreement that specified my job title and annual salary ($125,000). I also have equity in the company - about 22% that vests over a 4-year period. Here's where things are getting confusing. Recently, the CEO told me that since I'm a co-founder with significant equity, I'm actually a "partner" in the business, not an employee. He wants to stop withholding taxes from my paychecks and just give me the full amount, saying that I'd need to handle my own tax payments going forward. I'm not sure if this is correct? I have a W-2 from the first part of the year, but now he's suggesting I'll get a K-1 instead. Does my employment agreement mean anything here? Does having equity automatically make me a partner regardless of the agreement? I'm worried about the tax implications and want to make sure I'm classifying myself correctly. Any insights would be appreciated!

This is a really important distinction that has significant tax implications. Your classification depends on several factors, not just what your co-founder decides to call you. The IRS looks at the actual relationship, not just labels. Since you have a signed employment agreement with a specified salary, that strongly indicates an employer-employee relationship. Having equity doesn't automatically make you a partner for tax purposes - many employees receive equity compensation without being considered partners. The fact that you've been receiving a W-2 and having taxes withheld also establishes a pattern of employment. Your co-founder can't just arbitrarily change your classification to avoid withholding taxes. For a true partnership in the eyes of the IRS, you would typically receive a Schedule K-1 instead of a W-2, be involved in business decisions proportionate to your ownership, and potentially share in profits and losses differently than just receiving a salary. I'd recommend consulting with a tax professional who specializes in business structures. This transition could significantly affect your tax obligations, including potentially requiring quarterly estimated tax payments and self-employment taxes.

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Thanks for this explanation. I'm curious though - if OP does have decision-making authority as CTO and sits on the board (assuming there is one), would that possibly tip the scales toward partnership classification? Or does the employment agreement essentially override that?

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Decision-making authority can be a factor, but many C-level executives have significant decision-making power while still being employees. The employment agreement is definitely strong evidence of employee status, especially if it contains typical employee provisions like being subject to the company's policies, defined work hours, or termination clauses. Board membership is separate from employment status - you can be both an employee and board member. What matters more is how your compensation is structured and whether you personally share in the business's liabilities and risks beyond just losing your job.

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After reading your situation, I was in almost the exact same boat last year! I co-founded a SaaS company where my partner handled the money side and I was the technical lead. We had a similar setup with me having an employment agreement despite being a co-founder. When tax season came, I was completely confused about my status and what forms I needed. I stumbled across https://taxr.ai and it honestly saved me so much hassle. I uploaded my employment agreement, equity docs, and some emails about my role, and their AI analyzed everything and gave me a detailed breakdown of my likely classification with the IRS. The analysis helped me understand that in my case, despite having founder equity, I was still legally an employee because of how our agreements were structured. They even explained exactly which parts of my agreement established the employer-employee relationship.

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That sounds interesting. How exactly does the service determine your status? Is it just looking at documents or does it actually explain the specific IRS rules that apply?

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I'm skeptical about AI making these kinds of determinations. Employment vs partnership status can have massive tax implications. Did you still consult with a human tax professional after using it?

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The service analyzes the language in your documents and compares it to established IRS guidelines for employment classification. It specifically identifies clauses related to control, payment structure, benefits, and other factors the IRS uses to determine employment status. It also provides citations to the relevant tax code sections and IRS publications. I did consult with a CPA afterward, and they actually confirmed what the AI analysis suggested. The tax professional was impressed with the thoroughness of the report and said it helped streamline our discussion since I already understood the basics of my situation.

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I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after my skeptical comment. I decided to try it with my own documents since I'm in a similar situation (technical co-founder with 30% equity but on payroll). I have to say I was genuinely surprised by how comprehensive the analysis was. It didn't just give me a binary "employee or partner" answer - it broke down each factor the IRS considers and showed how my specific situation would likely be viewed. The report even highlighted specific clauses in my employment contract that established behavioral and financial control typical of an employee relationship. What I found most helpful was the explanation of how equity ownership and employment status can coexist. Turns out my situation was pretty clear - despite my equity stake, my day-to-day relationship with the company is absolutely that of an employee.

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Your co-founder is trying to shift the tax burden to you, which isn't cool. I went through something similar and spent WEEKS trying to get someone at the IRS to clarify my status. Literally called 20+ times and couldn't get through. I finally used https://claimyr.com to get connected to an actual IRS agent (you can see how it works at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c). They got me through to someone who confirmed that having an employment agreement plus W-2 history establishes a pretty clear employee relationship, regardless of what my business partner wanted to call me. The IRS agent explained that your co-founder can't just decide to stop withholding taxes because he feels like it - that's potentially misclassification which can create problems for both you and the business.

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Wait, what is this service exactly? Does it somehow let you skip the IRS phone queue? That sounds too good to be true considering I've spent hours on hold before.

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I've heard about services like this but always assumed they were scams. Did they actually get you through to a real IRS agent? And more importantly, did the information you got actually resolve your issue?

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Yes, the service uses an automated system to continuously call the IRS until it gets through, then it calls you and connects you directly to the IRS agent. It basically handles the hold time for you so you don't have to sit there listening to the on-hold music for hours. The information I got from the IRS agent was extremely helpful. They confirmed that my situation (similar to OP's) meant I was legally an employee and that my business couldn't just arbitrarily reclassify me without changing the fundamental nature of our relationship. They directed me to specific IRS publications I could show my partner, which helped me hold my ground and maintain my correct classification.

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I need to eat my words about being skeptical of Claimyr. After my last comment, I decided to try it because I've been trying to reach the IRS for THREE WEEKS about a similar classification issue with my startup. Used the service yesterday and got connected to an IRS agent in about 45 minutes (while I was doing other work). The agent walked me through the exact criteria they use to determine employee vs partner status. The key factors were: who controls my work schedule, whether I can work for others, how I'm paid (regular salary vs profit distribution), and whether I have personal liability for business debts. The agent confirmed that having founder equity doesn't automatically make you a partner if your day-to-day relationship is that of an employee. She also mentioned that changing from W-2 to 1099 mid-year raises red flags for potential misclassification audits. This saved me from making a potentially expensive tax mistake!

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Just went through this exact mess with my startup! The thing your CEO might not realize is that there are actually significant legal and tax differences between being a "co-founder" (which is just a title) and being a partner in a legal sense. Based on what you described, you're an employee who also happens to be a co-founder with equity. Your employment agreement is a legally binding document that established your relationship as employer-employee. Him deciding to stop withholding taxes is actually illegal unless you formally restructure the business. If you're getting a regular salary rather than a share of profits, that strongly points to employee status. Partners typically receive distributions based on business performance, not set salaries. Also worth noting: if he stops withholding taxes and you're still an employee, YOUR COMPANY could face penalties for tax evasion. Make sure to protect yourself here.

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Thank you so much for pointing this out about penalties. I had no idea the company could face issues for stopping withholding if I'm technically still an employee. That's definitely something I need to bring up with my co-founder. Would it make sense to get some kind of official determination from the IRS to make sure we're doing things correctly? Or should I just insist we continue with the current arrangement?

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Yes, you can request an official determination from the IRS using Form SS-8 (Determination of Worker Status for Purposes of Federal Employment Taxes and Income Tax Withholding). This will give you a binding decision on whether you should be classified as an employee or independent contractor/partner. I would recommend discussing this with your co-founder first and explaining the potential risks to the business. Many founders don't realize they can't just arbitrarily change tax classifications. If he's resistant, then filing the SS-8 might be necessary. Just be aware that the determination process can take 6+ months, but once filed, it often motivates businesses to address the issue properly rather than waiting for the IRS decision.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - what type of business entity are you? Is it an LLC, an S-Corp, a C-Corp? This makes a HUGE difference for how you can be classified! If you're a C-Corp, you're definitely an employee regardless of being a co-founder. If you're an LLC, you could be treated as a partner for tax purposes. S-Corps are somewhere in between. Also, does your employment agreement include anything about being "at will"? If so, that's another strong indicator you're an employee, not a partner.

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This is an important point! I was in a similar situation with my LLC. Even though I was a co-founder with 40% ownership, I was initially on payroll as an employee with taxes withheld. When we switched me to partner classification, we had to file paperwork formally changing our operating agreement and tax election. It wasn't just a matter of stopping withholding.

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This is a classic case of worker misclassification that I see way too often in startups. Your CEO doesn't get to unilaterally decide you're a "partner" just because it's more convenient for payroll taxes. The IRS has very specific criteria for determining worker classification, and having equity doesn't automatically make you a partner. Key factors include: - Do you have a written employment agreement? ✓ (You do) - Are you paid a regular salary vs. profit distributions? ✓ (You get $125k salary) - Does the company control how you do your work? ✓ (Likely as CTO) - Have you been receiving W-2s? ✓ (You mentioned you have one) All of these point strongly toward employee status. Your equity is just additional compensation, not a change in your fundamental relationship with the company. I'd strongly recommend pushing back on this change. If your CEO insists on reclassifying you, demand that he consult with both a tax attorney and accountant first. Improper worker classification can result in significant penalties for the business - back taxes, interest, and fines that could seriously hurt your startup. Don't let him shift the tax burden to you without proper legal justification. You signed an employment agreement for a reason!

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This is such helpful advice! As someone who's new to startup equity and tax implications, I'm wondering - if the company does try to reclassify someone mid-year like this, what kind of timeline does the IRS typically give to correct the mistake? And would the employee be personally liable for any penalties if they went along with the incorrect classification, or does that fall on the company? I'm asking because this situation seems like it could happen to a lot of startup employees who don't fully understand their rights and obligations.

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