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This thread has been incredibly helpful for someone like me who's been putting off dealing with unfiled taxes. I'm 31 and have been avoiding this for years due to pure anxiety and not knowing where to start. One thing I'd add from my research is that the IRS has an online payment agreement tool if you do end up owing money. You can set up a payment plan directly on their website without having to call (which we all know can be a nightmare). The monthly payment amounts are usually very reasonable based on your income and expenses. Also, for anyone worried about the complexity - TurboTax and other software can handle prior year returns, not just current year. I was surprised to learn you can e-file returns going back several years, which makes the process much faster than mailing paper returns. The biggest takeaway for me from reading everyone's experiences is that the IRS really isn't the scary monster I built up in my head. They genuinely seem to work with people who come forward voluntarily and make an effort to get compliant. Reading about all the people who ended up with refunds instead of owing money has finally given me the courage to tackle this myself.
Thanks for mentioning the online payment agreement tool - I had no idea that existed! That takes away another layer of stress about having to deal with phone calls if I do end up owing money. The point about being able to e-file prior year returns is huge too. I was dreading the thought of printing, mailing, and waiting months for paper processing. Knowing I can handle most of this electronically makes it feel so much more manageable. It's really encouraging to see how many people in this thread went from terrified to successfully resolved. I keep coming back to read these responses whenever my anxiety spikes about tackling this. Sometimes you need to hear from real people who've been through the exact same situation to realize it's not as catastrophic as your brain makes it out to be.
As someone who just went through this exact situation last year, I want to echo what everyone else has said - you're making the right choice by addressing this now, and it's likely not as bad as you think. I was 30 when I finally dealt with 6 years of unfiled returns. Like you, I was a W-2 employee with taxes withheld, and I ended up getting refunds for 4 out of those 6 years! The two years I owed money on had very manageable amounts, and the IRS accepted my first-time penalty abatement request without any pushback. One practical tip that really helped me: start by calling the IRS Practitioner Priority Line at 866-860-4259 if you're working with a tax professional, or use the regular taxpayer line. They can tell you upfront if they've already filed substitute returns for you, which changes your strategy completely. The whole process took me about 3 months from start to finish, and the relief I felt afterward was incredible. I wish I hadn't let fear keep me paralyzed for so long. You've got this - just take it one step at a time!
This is exactly what I needed to hear! The fact that you got refunds for 4 out of 6 years is so encouraging. I've been putting this off for way too long because I convinced myself I'd owe some massive amount that would ruin me financially. Can I ask - when you requested the first-time penalty abatement, did you need to provide a detailed explanation or was it pretty straightforward? I'm wondering if I should have my "reasons" for not filing all prepared in advance or if they don't really dig into the why too much when it's your first time asking for abatement. Also, did you end up using a tax professional or handle it yourself? I keep going back and forth on whether the peace of mind is worth the extra cost, especially after reading about all these helpful tools people have mentioned. Thanks for sharing your timeline too - knowing it took about 3 months helps me set realistic expectations instead of thinking this needs to be solved overnight.
This has been such a helpful thread! I'm definitely convinced to try TurboTax Desktop this year after reading everyone's experiences. The cost savings alone make it worth switching, especially since it sounds like the functionality is essentially the same. One question I haven't seen asked yet - for those who switched from online to desktop, did you notice any difference in customer support? Like if you run into issues or have questions while preparing your return, is the help just as accessible with the desktop version? I've had to contact TurboTax support a couple times in previous years through the online version and want to make sure I won't be left hanging if I need help with the desktop software. Also, really appreciate the tips about backing up the tax files and being able to install on multiple computers. That flexibility is actually another point in favor of desktop that I hadn't considered!
Great question about customer support! I made the switch to desktop two years ago and was worried about the same thing. The good news is that TurboTax customer support is the same regardless of which version you use - you can still chat online, call their phone support, or access their help resources. The desktop software even has built-in links that take you directly to relevant help articles or let you start a chat session. One thing I actually prefer about desktop support is that when you do need to contact them, you can easily take screenshots of exactly what you're seeing on your screen, which sometimes makes it easier to explain technical issues. Plus, since your data is local, you don't have to worry about session timeouts while you're on hold with support. The only minor difference is that with online, support agents can sometimes look at your account directly, but with desktop they'll walk you through troubleshooting steps instead. Honestly though, I've found their support to be just as helpful either way. The knowledge base and FAQ sections are identical between versions too.
I've been going back and forth on this exact decision! Really appreciate all the detailed comparisons here. One thing that's pushing me toward desktop is that I tend to overthink my taxes and like to go back and double-check things multiple times before filing. Having everything saved locally and being able to work offline sounds perfect for my workflow. Quick follow-up question - does anyone know if the desktop version still supports importing photos of tax documents like W-2s and 1099s? I know the online version has that feature where you can snap a picture with your phone, but I'm not sure if that carries over to desktop. That's one convenience feature I'd really miss if it's not available. Also, for what it's worth, I called TurboTax yesterday to ask about pricing and the rep confirmed that desktop versions often go on sale at major retailers, sometimes 20-30% off the regular price. Might be worth shopping around rather than buying directly from TurboTax if you decide to go the desktop route!
Great question about document importing! The desktop version does support importing tax documents, but it works a bit differently than the online version. Instead of the phone camera feature, you can scan or photograph documents and then upload them directly from your computer. The software can still read and extract data from W-2s, 1099s, and other common tax forms - it's just a slightly different workflow. I actually find the desktop import process more reliable since I can review the scanned documents on a larger screen before the software processes them. Plus, if you have a scanner or all-in-one printer, the image quality is usually better than phone photos, which means fewer errors in the data extraction. Thanks for the tip about shopping around for better prices! I didn't realize desktop versions went on sale that much at other retailers. Definitely makes the cost savings even more compelling compared to online pricing.
One thing nobody has mentioned - if you're excluding Medicaid waiver payments from your income, you might need to adjust your Earned Income Credit calculation if you were claiming that. Since the payments don't count as earned income when they're excluded, it could affect your EIC amount. Something to keep in mind if you're filing amended returns.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation but with a twist - I provide care for my elderly father who receives Medicaid waiver payments, but he doesn't live with me full-time. He stays at my house about 4-5 days per week and goes to my sister's the other days. Does anyone know if the "living in your home" requirement from Notice 2014-7 means they have to be there 100% of the time? Or would this split arrangement still qualify for the exemption since my home is his primary residence? I've been reporting these payments as taxable income but I'm wondering if I've been doing it wrong. Also want to echo what others have said about the big tax prep chains - went to two different locations and got completely different advice from each one. Definitely going to look for a CPA who specializes in this area like @PrinceJoe suggested.
Great question about the "living in your home" requirement! From my understanding of Notice 2014-7, the IRS doesn't require 100% residency. What matters is that your home serves as the care recipient's primary residence where they receive the qualifying care services. The fact that your father stays with you 4-5 days per week and your home is his primary residence should likely qualify for the exemption, especially if that's where the majority of his care is provided. The key test is whether the care you're providing would otherwise require institutionalization. You might want to document this arrangement clearly - keep records showing your home as his primary address for medical, legal, and other official purposes. When I had questions about residency requirements for my situation, I found it helpful to call the IRS directly (though as others mentioned, getting through can be challenging). If you've been incorrectly reporting these as taxable income, you could potentially file amended returns for the past few years. Definitely worth consulting with that specialized CPA to make sure you handle everything correctly!
As someone who went through this exact panic last year, I totally understand the stress! The confusion usually comes from people mixing up different scenarios. Here's what actually happens with your $63k 1099-NEC income: You'll pay approximately: - Self-employment tax: ~15.3% on about 92.35% of your income = roughly $8,900 - Federal income tax: After deductions (standard deduction, half of SE tax, possibly QBI deduction), you're looking at maybe 10-15% effective rate on what's left = roughly $4,000-6,000 - Don't forget state taxes if your state has them! So your total effective federal tax rate will likely be around 20-25%, not 30%. The people saying 30% are probably including state taxes or being overly conservative. My advice: Start making quarterly estimated payments ASAP for next year. I use the "safe harbor" rule - pay 100% of last year's total tax liability divided by 4, and you won't get penalties even if you end up owing more. It's better to slightly overpay than deal with underpayment penalties. Also, track EVERY business expense from now on. Home office, internet, phone, mileage, supplies - it all adds up and reduces your taxable income significantly.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar boat - first year with significant 1099-NEC income and totally overwhelmed by the tax implications. One thing I learned the hard way is to open a separate savings account just for taxes. I set up an automatic transfer of 25% of every payment I receive to go straight into that account. It's helped me avoid the panic of "oh no, where am I going to find $15k for taxes??" Also, if you're really behind on setting money aside, consider opening a Solo 401k or SEP-IRA before year end. You can contribute a significant amount and reduce your current year tax burden. For 2025, you might be able to contribute up to $23,000 to a Solo 401k (plus potential employer contributions as the business owner), which would lower your taxable income substantially. The quarterly payment thing is real though - don't wait until next April to deal with this. Even if you can't pay the full amount you'll owe, getting something in quarterly will help minimize penalties.
This is exactly the kind of practical advice I needed to hear! The separate savings account idea is brilliant - I've been keeping everything mixed together and it's been impossible to track what I actually have set aside for taxes vs regular expenses. Quick question about the Solo 401k - is there a deadline for setting that up? I'm worried I might have missed the window for this tax year. Also, do you know if there are any income limits or restrictions for 1099-NEC workers to qualify for one? The automatic transfer suggestion is something I'm definitely implementing this week. Better late than never, right? Thanks for sharing what you learned the hard way so the rest of us don't have to!
Amara Okonkwo
I'm a bookkeeper and I see this ALL THE TIME with new S-Corps. Here's a step-by-step approach: 1. Open separate accounts today 2. Print all bank/credit statements since S-Corp formation 3. Create a spreadsheet tracking every transaction 4. Mark each as business or personal 5. Calculate total personal expenses paid from business account 6. Calculate total business expenses paid from personal accounts 7. Do a reconciling transfer to make the accounts whole 8. Set up proper payroll immediately 9. Document EVERYTHING with a memo explaining the situation The worst thing you can do is ignore it. I've helped clients navigate IRS inquiries on this exact issue, and they're much more lenient when you've identified and fixed the problem yourself.
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Giovanni Marino
ā¢Would you recommend using bookkeeping software for the reconstruction or just stick with spreadsheets? I'm in a similar boat and wondering if QuickBooks would make this easier or more complicated.
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Chloe Green
ā¢For reconstruction, I'd actually recommend starting with spreadsheets first to get everything categorized correctly, then importing into QuickBooks once you have clean data. QuickBooks can be overwhelming when you're dealing with messy commingled transactions - it's easier to make mistakes when you're trying to categorize and learn the software at the same time. Once you have your spreadsheet with all transactions properly categorized as business/personal, you can import just the business transactions into QuickBooks and set up proper books going forward. This way you get the benefit of accounting software without the complexity of trying to fix historical mess within the software itself.
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Scarlett Forster
I went through almost the exact same situation with my S-Corp about 18 months ago. The panic when you realize what a mess you've created is real, but it's absolutely fixable! Here's what worked for me: I immediately opened separate business accounts and stopped all commingling that day. Then I hired a CPA who specializes in S-Corps (not just any accountant - make sure they know S-Corp rules inside and out). We did a full reconstruction of my books going back to the S-Corp election date. The salary issue is critical - you need to get on payroll ASAP. My CPA calculated what my reasonable salary should have been from day one and we did retroactive payroll for the entire period. Yes, I had to pay employment taxes on that amount, but it protected me from much worse penalties if the IRS had discovered it first. One thing that really helped was creating a detailed memo explaining the situation, the steps we took to fix it, and the controls we put in place to prevent it from happening again. Documentation is your friend here. The good news is that the IRS sees this mistake frequently with new S-Corps, and they're generally reasonable if you proactively fix it and can show you took it seriously. Don't let the fear paralyze you - take action now and you'll sleep much better in a few months.
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Emma Davis
ā¢This is such a relief to read! I'm dealing with this exact nightmare right now and have been losing sleep over it. Can I ask how long the whole reconstruction process took with your CPA? I'm worried about the time crunch since we're getting close to year-end. Also, did you face any pushback from the IRS later on, or did the proactive approach really work in your favor?
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