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Don't overlook your state tax agency too. Most states have their own tax fraud reporting systems, and sometimes they're more responsive than the IRS for smaller cases. Just google "[your state] report tax fraud" and you'll usually find a form or hotline.
I didn't even think about reporting to the state! That's a really good point, especially since I'm in a high income tax state. Maybe they'd be more interested in following up than the IRS. Thanks for the suggestion!
Just want to add that timing can be important when filing these reports. If you know the person is currently preparing their taxes or just filed, that might be a good time to submit your report since the IRS will have fresh information to compare against. Also, keep records of when you submit your report - I've heard the IRS sometimes takes months or even years to follow up, so having documentation of when you first reported can be helpful if they ever contact you for additional information. One more thing - if this person is a business owner, the IRS might be more interested since business tax fraud often involves larger amounts than individual income tax issues. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!
That's really helpful advice about timing! I hadn't considered that the IRS might be more responsive when they have current tax filings to compare against. The person I'm thinking about reporting is indeed a business owner with what appears to be significant unreported cash income, so hopefully that would make it more likely they'd investigate. Do you know if there's any benefit to reporting to both federal and state agencies, or should I pick one? I'm in California so they definitely have their own enforcement.
I've been lurking in tax forums for a while and finally decided to jump in! This thread has been incredibly helpful - I'm in a similar situation where I want to handle my own taxes better and maybe help some family members. The progression that Lola described really appeals to me - starting with free/cheap resources and building up knowledge gradually. I like the idea of not committing thousands of dollars upfront when I'm not even sure how deep into tax prep I want to go. One question for those who've gone the self-study route: how do you stay current with tax law changes? That seems like it could be challenging without formal coursework that gets updated each year. Do you just rely on IRS publications and news sources, or are there other resources you'd recommend for keeping up with annual changes? Also curious about the seasonal H&R Block approach - do they typically hire people with zero experience, or do you need some basic knowledge first? That could be a great way to bridge the gap between self-study and real-world application.
Welcome to the discussion, Anastasia! Great questions about staying current with tax changes. For staying updated on tax law changes, I rely on a few key sources: the IRS website has a "What's New" section that's updated annually, and I subscribe to their email updates. Tax publications like J.K. Lasser's guide get updated every year and highlight the major changes. There are also some good tax podcasts and YouTube channels that break down annual changes in digestible ways. Regarding H&R Block - they absolutely hire people with zero experience! Their business model depends on training seasonal workers from scratch. They typically run their tax courses in the fall (September-November) and hire based on course completion rather than prior experience. The course is free if you commit to working for them during tax season, which makes it a really accessible way to get formal training while earning money. The beauty of this approach is that you get exposed to hundreds of different tax situations in just a few months, which accelerates your learning way beyond what you'd get doing just family returns. Plus you have experienced preparers and managers available to answer questions in real-time. Just make sure you're comfortable with the commitment - tax season can be pretty intense! But it's definitely a viable path for building practical skills.
This has been such an informative thread! As someone who's been preparing taxes professionally for about 10 years, I wanted to add a few thoughts that might help with your decision-making process. First, regarding the original question about Universal Accounting vs Surgent - Emily Jackson's assessment earlier was spot-on. Universal Accounting is comprehensive but includes a lot of accounting theory that won't be directly applicable to family tax prep. Surgent's CTP program is more focused and would definitely cover what you need for personal and small business returns. However, after reading through all these responses, I'm really impressed by the alternative approaches people have shared. The community college route is excellent - many CC programs are taught by practicing CPAs and EAs, so you get quality instruction at a fraction of the cost. The AI tool (taxr.ai) that several people mentioned is intriguing. I've been hearing more about AI tax tools from colleagues, and the educational aspect sounds compelling. Being able to learn tax concepts in the context of your actual tax situations rather than abstract examples could be really effective. One thing I'd add: whatever route you choose, consider getting an IRS Preparer Tax Identification Number (PTIN) even if you're just doing family taxes. It's inexpensive and gives you access to IRS training materials and resources that aren't available to the general public. Plus, if you ever decide to prepare returns for non-family members, you'll need it anyway. The seasonal H&R Block strategy that Lola mentioned is genuinely brilliant - I wish I'd thought of that when I was starting out!
Thanks for the professional perspective, Lucas! The PTIN suggestion is really valuable - I had no idea that getting one would open up access to additional IRS training materials. That seems like a smart move regardless of which educational path someone chooses. Your validation of the community college approach is reassuring too. I've been leaning toward that option after reading through this thread, and knowing that many programs are taught by practicing professionals makes it feel like a much more credible alternative to the expensive formal programs. I'm curious about your experience with colleagues using AI tax tools - are you seeing them as supplements to traditional knowledge, or are some preparers actually relying on them as primary tools? The educational aspect of taxr.ai sounds appealing, but I'd love to hear a professional's take on how reliable these AI systems are for learning fundamental tax concepts versus just getting quick answers. Also, do you think the combination approach several people have mentioned (starting with self-study/community college, then supplementing with AI tools and services like Claimyr when needed) provides adequate preparation for handling family taxes? Or are there specific knowledge gaps that typically only get filled through more comprehensive formal training?
Just a heads up - make sure you communicate clearly with your son about who's claiming who. My daughter and I had a huge mess last year because she filed her taxes first and claimed herself without telling me, then I tried to claim her as a dependent. We both got letters from the IRS and had to file amended returns. The IRS does check for this!
This happened to my family too! What a nightmare to fix. Now we always have a "tax talk" in January before anyone files.
Exactly! The "tax talk" is so important. We now have a family policy that nobody files until we've discussed who's claiming who. My daughter was just trying to be independent and didn't realize how it would affect the family's overall tax situation. The amended returns were a hassle and delayed our refunds by months.
This is such a common situation with college graduates! Based on what you've described, it sounds like you should be able to claim your son as a dependent. The key factors working in your favor are: 1. He was a full-time student for nearly half the year (through May) 2. You likely provided more than half his total support for the year (tuition, housing, food through May vs. his earnings from June onward) 3. Dorm time counts as living with you for the residency test One important thing to keep in mind - since he earned $35,000 from his new job, definitely run the numbers both ways as someone mentioned. Sometimes the family comes out ahead when the child claims themselves, especially if there are education credits involved from his final semester. Also, make sure you coordinate with your son before either of you files! You don't want to both claim/not claim him and trigger IRS letters. Been there with my own kids and it's a headache to fix. The IRS has a helpful interactive tool called the "Interactive Tax Assistant" on their website that can walk you through the dependency tests if you want an official confirmation before filing.
Thanks for mentioning the Interactive Tax Assistant! I had no idea the IRS had that tool on their website. That sounds like it could give us the official guidance we need without having to wait on hold or pay for third-party services. One question about running the numbers both ways - when you say sometimes the family comes out ahead when the child claims themselves, what specific situations make that more likely? Is it mainly about education credits, or are there other factors we should consider? With his $35k income for half the year, I'm wondering if there are income thresholds or credit phase-outs that might affect our decision.
Sophie, I'm sorry to hear about your health issues that led to missing your RMDs. The good news is that health-related reasons are typically considered valid reasonable cause by the IRS for penalty waivers. Here's exactly what you need to do: Complete Form 5329 for tax year 2023, enter the missed RMD amounts on line 54, calculate the 50% penalty on line 55, then on line 56 enter "RC" and put $0 for the penalty amount you're requesting to be waived. Your explanation letter should include: 1) Specific details about your health condition and how it prevented you from managing your retirement accounts, 2) The exact dates and amounts of the missed distributions, 3) Confirmation that you've now taken the distributions to correct the error, and 4) A statement that this was an isolated incident and you intend to comply going forward. Mail both documents together using certified mail to your regular IRS filing address. Don't wait for your 2024 tax filing - submit this separately now to show you're addressing it promptly. Keep copies of everything and proof of mailing. The IRS typically takes 2-6 months to respond to waiver requests, but health issues are one of the more commonly accepted reasons for reasonable cause. You've got a strong case since you corrected the mistake as soon as you discovered it. Good luck!
Sophie, I'm really sorry to hear about your health issues and the stress this must be causing you. The good news is that health-related reasons are among the most commonly accepted justifications for RMD penalty waivers. Here's a step-by-step approach for your situation: **Form 5329 Instructions:** - Complete Form 5329 for tax year 2023 - Line 54: Enter the total amount of missed RMDs ($6,800) - Line 55: Calculate the 50% penalty ($3,400) - Line 56: Enter "RC" (reasonable cause) and $0 as the penalty amount you're requesting to waive **Your explanation letter should include:** - Specific details about your health condition and how it impacted your ability to manage financial matters - Timeline of when the health issues occurred relative to when RMDs were due - Acknowledgment that you've now taken the missed distributions - Statement that this was an isolated incident due to extraordinary circumstances **Important tips:** - Mail everything together using certified mail with return receipt - Send to your regular IRS tax return filing address (don't wait for 2024 filing) - Keep copies of everything - Be honest and detailed in your explanation - the IRS appreciates transparency Given that you've already corrected the mistake and have legitimate health reasons, you have a strong case for getting the penalty waived. The key is showing that you acted in good faith once you discovered the error.
This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I missed an RMD due to a family emergency last year. One question - when you mention being "honest and detailed" in the explanation letter, how much detail is too much? Should I include specific medical information or just general descriptions of the health issues that prevented proper financial management? Also, has anyone had experience with the IRS asking for follow-up documentation after submitting the initial waiver request? I want to make sure I'm prepared if they need additional proof of the circumstances.
Aurora Lacasse
Just got off the phone with RITA after seeing this thread - they confirmed they're doing a massive data reconciliation project right now! Apparently they got access to updated employer reporting systems and are cross-checking everything from 2020-2022. The rep told me that about 80% of these notices end up being resolved without any additional tax owed, it's mostly just mismatched reporting between employers and individuals. She said the key thing is to respond within the 30 days even if you're still gathering documents - you can always submit additional paperwork later. Also PSA: if you moved during those years or worked in multiple municipalities, definitely double check which RITA office is handling your case because that can cause delays too.
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Aaliyah Reed
β’Thank you so much for calling and getting the actual scoop from RITA! 80% resolved without additional tax owed is such a relief to hear. I was literally losing sleep over this thinking I somehow messed up my taxes for three years straight π The tip about responding within 30 days even while still gathering docs is super helpful too - I was worried about submitting an incomplete response but sounds like they'd rather hear from you than radio silence. Really appreciate you sharing what you learned!
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Connor Byrne
This is so helpful to read everyone's experiences! I just got my RITA letters yesterday for the same years (2020-2022) and was totally freaking out. It's such a relief to know this is happening to so many people and that most of these turn out to be just paperwork issues. I'm in Cincinnati and my situation sounds similar - I had a job change in 2021 and I'm pretty sure there were some reporting mix-ups with the local taxes. Going to start gathering all my old documents this weekend and get my response together. Thanks everyone for sharing your stories and advice, this community is a lifesaver! π
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