How Do Realized Gains/Losses Work in Investment Clubs Set Up as LLCs or Partnerships?
I'm trying to get my head around how realized gains and losses work in an investment club that's structured as an LLC or partnership. I've got a scenario I'm hoping someone can help me understand. Say we have a club with 15 members who each put in $1.0M back in 2015, so we've got $15M total. The club invested $5M each in 3 different stocks. Now in 2021, here's where we stand: 1. ABC stock: Basically worthless (like $0.01) 2. DEF stock: Holding steady at $5.0M 3. GHI stock: Doubled to $10.0M The club sells ABC and DEF in 2021, realizing $5.0M in losses. Now the club has $5.0M cash and $10.0M in GHI stock. And here's where it gets tricky - one member (let's call him Bob) decides to cash out in 2021. From what I understand, everyone gets a K-1 for 2021 showing their share of the realized loss (about -$333,333 each). But shouldn't each investor's cost basis in the partnership drop from $1M to around $666,667? My questions: - What form does Bob submit to the IRS that shows both his loss AND the gain in his partnership shares when he cashed out? It seems unfair if he just claims the huge loss without accounting for the unrealized gains still in the club. - Do the remaining members need to report their current cost basis to the IRS, or does the K-1 handle this? - How do the remaining members figure out their tax situation if they decide to sell later? Thanks for any clarification on this! I want to make sure we're handling everything correctly.
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Atticus Domingo
This is a great question about investment clubs and their tax treatment. Investment clubs set up as partnerships follow partnership tax rules, which can be a bit complex. In your scenario, you're pretty much on the right track. All members will receive a K-1 showing their share of the $5M loss (approximately $333,333 per member). And yes, this will reduce each member's tax basis in their partnership interest from $1M to about $666,667. For Bob who cashed out: When a partner exits a partnership, they need to file Schedule D with their personal tax return to report the sale of their partnership interest. The calculation is: Amount received minus adjusted basis = gain/loss. So if Bob receives $1M for his interest that now has a basis of $666,667, he'd report a $333,333 gain on Schedule D. This effectively "cancels out" the loss reported on his K-1, which makes sense since he's breaking even overall. For the remaining partners: The K-1 each year will show their distributive share of income/losses, which affects their basis. The partnership should maintain capital accounts for each partner, but it's also wise for partners to track their own basis. The partnership is required to file Form 1065 and provide K-1s to all partners. When any remaining partner sells their interest later, they'll do the same calculation as Bob did: proceeds received minus their current adjusted basis.
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Beth Ford
•Thanks for the explanation! I'm curious - what happens if the remaining GHI stock crashes before the other members cash out? Would they still have the reduced basis but now with actual losses? Seems like they could end up in a worse position than Bob who got out at the right time.
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Atticus Domingo
•That's exactly right. If GHI stock crashes after Bob exits, the remaining partners would still have their reduced basis of $666,667, but the value of their interest would drop below that. When they eventually sell their interest, they would then realize an actual loss (the difference between their reduced basis and the lower amount they receive). This is one of the risks of partnership structures - the timing of entry and exit can significantly impact tax consequences. Bob did indeed "time it right" in your scenario, as he was able to offset his share of realized losses against his gain on exit. The remaining partners have taken on the risk of the remaining asset (GHI), including both potential upside and downside.
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Morita Montoya
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Kingston Bellamy
•Did it help with figuring out the Section 754 election stuff? Our club is dealing with that now and I'm completely lost on whether we should make that election when members leave.
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Joy Olmedo
•I'm skeptical about using AI for complex tax situations like this. How accurate was it really? Did your tax professional verify the results? Partnership taxation is seriously complicated and I wouldn't trust an algorithm with it.
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Morita Montoya
•It actually handled the Section 754 election question really well. The tool analyzed our specific situation and explained the pros and cons of making the election based on our asset composition. It showed us the potential basis adjustment calculations if we made the election, which helped us make an informed decision. As for accuracy, I had my CPA review the outputs and she was impressed with the detailed analysis. She said it saved her time because all the calculations were already done correctly. The tool doesn't just give generic advice - it applies the actual tax code to your specific situation and documents. It's not replacing a professional, but it made both my life and my CPA's job much easier.
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Joy Olmedo
I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after my skeptical comment. I decided to try it with our investment club's situation, and I have to admit I was wrong. The platform was surprisingly thorough with partnership tax issues. I uploaded our operating agreement and previous K-1s, and the analysis it provided about our basis adjustments was spot on. It flagged some issues with how we had been handling departing members that even our accountant had missed. The detailed explanation of how unrealized gains should be handled when a member exits saved us from a potentially messy audit situation. The documentation it provided for each member's adjusted basis calculations was clear enough that I could share it with our less financially-savvy members who finally understood why their capital accounts were changing. I'm not easily impressed with tech solutions for complex tax matters, but this one actually delivered.
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Isaiah Cross
Has anyone else found it impossible to get through to the IRS for guidance on partnership questions like this? I've been trying for weeks to get clarification on exactly this issue for our investment club. Always on hold for hours only to get disconnected. I finally used https://claimyr.com to get through to an IRS agent after wasting days on failed call attempts. You can watch how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they wait on hold for you and call when an agent picks up. When I finally spoke with an IRS representative, they confirmed what others have said here - the exiting partner needs to report their adjusted basis calculation on Schedule D, and the partnership needs to maintain proper capital accounts for all members. The agent also mentioned that many investment clubs make errors in tracking basis adjustments, which can lead to audit issues down the road.
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Kiara Greene
•How does this Claimyr thing actually work? I'm confused how they can get you through faster than just calling yourself. Is it just that they auto-redial or something?
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Evelyn Kelly
•This sounds like a scam. You're telling me you pay someone else to wait on hold, and somehow they magically get through when regular people can't? The IRS phone system doesn't give priority to certain callers. I've worked with partnerships for years and always just do the research myself instead of trying to get the IRS on the phone.
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Isaiah Cross
•They don't get you through faster than the regular line - they just wait on hold for you so you don't have to sit there for hours. They use an automated system that monitors the hold music and then calls you when a real person picks up. It's basically just saving you from having to sit by your phone for 3+ hours. The value isn't about "cutting the line" - it's about not wasting your day waiting for someone to pick up. For my partnership question, I had been trying for weeks and getting disconnected after 2+ hours each time. With Claimyr, I could go about my day, and they called me when an agent was actually on the line. The IRS agent I spoke with was super helpful once I finally got through.
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Evelyn Kelly
I have to follow up on my skeptical comment about Claimyr. After another frustrating week of trying to get through to the IRS about our investment club's basis adjustment questions, I broke down and tried it. I'm honestly surprised to say it worked exactly as advertised. I submitted my request around 9am, went about my day, and around 2:30pm got the call that an IRS agent was on the line. I was connected to a very knowledgeable agent in the partnership division who walked me through the exact forms we needed for members exiting our club. The agent confirmed we needed to provide detailed basis calculations to departing members for their Schedule D reporting and recommended we maintain a basis tracking spreadsheet for all members. They also pointed me to some IRS publications specifically for investment clubs that I hadn't found in my research. I still think the IRS phone system is ridiculous, but at least there's a way to deal with it without wasting an entire day on hold.
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Paloma Clark
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that investment clubs should consider using special allocations in their partnership agreement to handle situations like the example. Section 704(b) of the tax code allows partnerships to allocate items of income, gain, loss, and deduction differently than the standard pro-rata based on ownership percentage. In the case described, the partnership could potentially allocate the realized losses on ABC and DEF specifically to the continuing partners rather than the exiting partner, which might be more equitable depending on the circumstances. This requires careful drafting in the partnership agreement and consistent application of the terms. We did this with our investment club after having a similar situation where a member left right after we realized losses but before selling appreciated assets. You need a tax attorney to help with the language, but it can save a lot of headaches.
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Heather Tyson
•Isn't there a substantial economic effect test that would prevent this kind of allocation? I thought you couldn't just arbitrarily allocate losses to some partners and not others unless there's a real economic reason behind it.
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Paloma Clark
•You're absolutely right about the substantial economic effect test. Special allocations need to have economic substance - you can't just allocate tax items arbitrarily to minimize someone's taxes. The allocation needs to be reflected in the partners' capital accounts, have economic effect through liquidation provisions that follow the capital accounts, and meet the substantiality requirement. In the investment club context, you might be able to justify special allocations based on when members joined, their participation in specific investment decisions, or other factors that create economic differences. My point was more that partnerships have flexibility that other entities don't, but you're correct that there are strict rules around implementing these allocations properly. In our club, we worked with both a tax attorney and CPA to ensure our special allocation provisions would stand up to scrutiny.
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Raul Neal
One important document that hasn't been mentioned is Form 8308 (Report of a Sale or Exchange of Certain Partnership Interests). If your investment club is holding "hot assets" like inventory or unrealized receivables (which most investment clubs don't have), the partnership must file this form when a partner sells their interest. Also, has anyone dealt with an investment club where some investments are held in a tax-advantaged account like an IRA? We're starting a club and some members want to contribute through their self-directed IRAs, which adds another layer of complexity with UBTI concerns.
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Jenna Sloan
•Using IRAs in investment clubs is super complicated! We tried it and eventually had to restructure because of the UBTI issues and potential prohibited transactions. If any of your investments generate debt-financed income or you're doing active business activities, the IRA portions can get hit with UBTI tax. Plus the whole club needs to be extra careful about any transactions that might be considered self-dealing with the IRA owners. My advice: keep it simple and have members contribute cash directly rather than through IRAs. The administrative headache isn't worth it unless you have a specialized club focused solely on passive investments.
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Connor Byrne
Great discussion everyone! I wanted to add a perspective on the record-keeping aspect that's crucial for investment clubs. Beyond just tracking basis adjustments, clubs should maintain detailed records of each transaction, including the date, amount, and which members were present for investment decisions. When Bob cashes out in the scenario described, having clear documentation of his participation in each investment decision can be important if the IRS questions the allocations later. Some investment clubs I've worked with create quarterly statements for each member showing their capital account balance, adjusted basis, and share of unrealized gains/losses. One tip: consider using partnership accounting software specifically designed for investment clubs rather than trying to track everything in Excel. The complexity grows quickly as you have members entering and leaving, especially if you're making the Section 754 election that was mentioned earlier. The software can automatically calculate the basis adjustments and generate the necessary tax documents. Also, make sure your operating agreement addresses what happens to a departing member's share of management fees, carried interest (if applicable), and whether they're entitled to their share of unrealized gains at fair market value or book value. These details can significantly impact the tax consequences for everyone involved.
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NebulaNinja
•This is really helpful advice about record-keeping! I'm wondering about the quarterly statements you mentioned - do you have a template or format you'd recommend for these member reports? Our club has been pretty informal with tracking individual member positions, but as we're growing (now up to 12 members), it's getting harder to keep everyone on the same page about their capital accounts and basis adjustments. Also, curious about your comment on management fees - we don't currently charge any fees since we're all managing the investments together, but should we be considering this for tax purposes? I've heard that having clear fee structures can help with the substantial economic effect requirements if we ever want to do special allocations.
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