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Gift Tax (Form 709) Schedule D - Does everyone need to fill it out? (help!)

I'm trying to file a gift tax return for the first time and I'm confused about Schedule D on Form 709. Does everyone who files Form 709 need to complete Schedule D? The title of Schedule D is "Computation of GST Tax" but I have no idea if this applies to my situation or not. I made a gift of some stocks (about $20,000) to my niece last year and I know I need to report it since it's over the annual exclusion amount. But the instructions for Form 709 are confusing me, especially all these different schedules. Do I need to worry about Schedule D or can I skip it? Any help would be really appreciated since I'm trying to get this done before the deadline!

No, not everyone who files Form 709 needs to complete Schedule D. Schedule D of Form 709 is specifically for calculating the Generation-Skipping Transfer (GST) tax, which only applies in certain situations. The GST tax applies when you make gifts to someone who is two or more generations below you (like grandchildren or great-nieces/nephews). If you're giving to your niece, that's generally considered one generation below you, so the GST tax wouldn't typically apply, and you wouldn't need to complete Schedule D. For your gift of stocks to your niece, you'll need to complete Schedule A (to report the gift) and potentially Schedule C (to calculate any gift tax due if you've used up your lifetime exemption), but you can skip Schedule D unless you're making a gift to someone who is considered a "skip person" (typically two or more generations below you).

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Thanks for that explanation! So if I understand correctly, since my niece is only one generation below me, she's not considered a "skip person" and I don't need to worry about Schedule D at all? Also, what about the lifetime exemption? I've never filed a gift tax return before, so I assume I haven't used any of my lifetime exemption yet. Does that mean I won't owe any actual tax, just need to report the gift?

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That's exactly right - your niece is not considered a "skip person" for GST tax purposes, so you can skip Schedule D entirely. Regarding the lifetime exemption, you're also correct. As of 2025, the lifetime gift and estate tax exemption is $13.61 million per individual. Since you've never filed a gift tax return before, you haven't used any of this exemption. Your $20,000 gift (minus the annual exclusion amount of $18,000 for 2025) will use only $2,000 of your lifetime exemption. You won't owe any gift tax - you're just reporting the gift and keeping track of how much of your lifetime exemption you've used.

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For what it's worth, the IRS has a decent publication that explains the gift tax basics including Schedule D requirements - it's Publication 559. I found it helpful for understanding which schedules apply to different situations. The most important thing to remember about Schedule D is that it ONLY applies when you're making gifts to "skip persons" - typically grandchildren or others who are 2+ generations below you. The tax rate is steep (40%+) if you exceed the GST exemption, so it's definitely worth understanding if it applies to your situation.

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Do you know if nieces and nephews count as skip persons? I'm helping my sister file her gift tax return and she made some substantial gifts to my kids (her nieces/nephews).

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Nieces and nephews are generally not considered skip persons - they're typically one generation below you. Skip persons are usually two or more generations below the donor (like grandchildren). However, there's an important exception: if a niece or nephew's parent (who would be your sibling) is deceased, then the niece/nephew could be considered a skip person because they've moved up a generation. This is called the "deceased parent rule" and it can affect whether Schedule D applies. If your sister is making gifts to your children and all parents are living, then Schedule D typically wouldn't be required.

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Has anybody used H&R Block software for filing Form 709? Does it walk you through which schedules to fill out based on your situation? I'm trying to decide if I should use software or just fill out the paper form myself.

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I used H&R Block for my 709 filing last year. It does ask questions to determine which schedules you need, but honestly I found their guidance on Schedule D and GST tax pretty minimal. It basically just asked if I was making gifts to skip persons without really explaining what that meant. I ended up calling their support line for clarification. If your situation is straightforward it's probably fine, but for anything complex I'd recommend getting professional help.

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I went through this exact same confusion last year when I had to file Form 709 for the first time! The key thing to understand is that Schedule D is ONLY for Generation-Skipping Transfer (GST) tax, which applies when you're making gifts to people who are two or more generations below you. Since you're giving to your niece, she's considered one generation below you (not a "skip person"), so you can completely skip Schedule D. You'll only need to complete Schedule A to report the gift details and potentially Schedule C if you need to calculate any gift tax (though with the current lifetime exemption being over $13 million, you probably won't owe any actual tax). The IRS instructions can definitely be overwhelming, but for your straightforward gift to a niece, you're dealing with a much simpler situation than the forms make it seem. Focus on Schedule A and don't stress about Schedule D - it literally doesn't apply to your case!

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This is really helpful! I'm new to this community and also dealing with my first gift tax return. Just to make sure I understand - when you say "one generation below," does that mean the relationship matters more than the actual age difference? My niece is only 5 years younger than me, so I was wondering if age played a role in determining generations for tax purposes. Also, do you know if there's a difference between nieces/nephews on your spouse's side versus your own family side when it comes to these generation rules? Thanks for breaking this down in such simple terms!

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