Gift Tax form 709. Do I need to file 1040 with it if I had zero income this year?

You don't need to file a Form 1040 just because you're filing a Form 709 (Gift Tax Return). These are completely separate tax filings with different purposes and deadlines. The Form 709 reports gifts exceeding the annual exclusion amount ($17,000 per recipient for 2023), while Form 1040 reports your income. If you had no income that would require filing a 1040, you don't need to file one just to submit your gift tax return. Important things to remember: Gift tax returns (Form 709) are due on the same day as income tax returns (typically April 15), but they're processed separately by the IRS. Also, even though you report the gift, you probably won't owe any actual gift tax unless you've used up your lifetime gift tax exclusion (currently over $12 million).

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Something important that nobody mentioned yet - even though you don't need to file a 1040 with your 709, make sure you're filing the gift tax return on time! The deadline is the same as the regular tax deadline (usually April 15) unless you file an extension. And unlike regular income tax extensions where you just extend the filing time, gift tax extensions also require payment of estimated tax if you think you'll owe any. Since you mentioned this is for your niece's education, you might want to look into whether you could have paid the tuition directly to the school instead of giving her cash - payments made directly to educational institutions for tuition aren't considered taxable gifts!

Just to add to the confusion lol - I'm pretty sure you need to file Form 8283 if your gift was non-cash and over $5,000... like stocks or property. That's what my accountant told me when I gifted some shares to my kids last year.

I was in almost the exact same situation last year! I gave my daughter a substantial gift for her wedding and was completely confused about the filing requirements. After doing a lot of research and speaking with a tax professional, I can confirm what others have said - you absolutely do NOT need to file a 1040 just because you're filing Form 709. The key thing to understand is that gift tax filing requirements are completely independent from income tax filing requirements. Form 709 is due April 15th (same deadline as 1040) but it's processed separately. Since you had no reportable income, you're not required to file a 1040, period. One tip - when you file your 709, make sure you keep detailed records of the gift amount and recipient information. This helps with tracking your lifetime exclusion usage for future gifts. Also, double-check that your gift amount actually requires Form 709 filing - if it was under the annual exclusion amount ($17,000 for 2023), you might not need to file at all!