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Jace Caspullo

Filling out W4 for new teaching position - how many dependents to claim?

Hey everyone, I'm a 42 year old single teacher starting at a new school district this fall. I'm the head of household with two kids - my son who's turning 15 in October and my daughter who's 21 and in college. My daughter works part-time and files her own taxes now. For the past few tax seasons, I've been disappointed with my returns. I used to get around $2500 back, but lately it's been barely anything. With this new teaching position, I need to fill out a new W4 form and want to make sure I'm doing it right. I want to have enough withheld throughout the year so I don't owe anything, but I'd also like to get something back when I file. I know my refund won't be as large as in the past since I can only claim my son as a dependent now. On Step 3 of the W4, should I put "1" for just my son, or should I put "2" to include myself as well? I'm confused about whether I count myself as a dependent on the W4 form. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Melody Miles

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The W4 form can definitely be confusing! On Step 3 of the W4, you should only put "1" for your dependent son. You don't count yourself as a dependent - Step 3 is specifically for claiming dependents like qualifying children or relatives. Your son qualifies as your dependent since he's under 17, so you'd list him and the associated tax credit amount. Your daughter doesn't qualify for this section since she files her own taxes and is over 19 (unless she meets specific qualifying student requirements). If you want to have more tax withheld to potentially get a larger refund, you can use Step 4(c) to request additional withholding from each paycheck. Just keep in mind that while getting a refund feels nice, it essentially means you're giving the government an interest-free loan throughout the year.

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But isn't there some benefit to claiming yourself somewhere on the W4? I thought I remembered something about claiming "0" vs claiming "1" for yourself affecting withholding amounts. Has that changed with the new W4 format?

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Melody Miles

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The W4 form was completely redesigned in 2020, which is why it might seem different from what you remember. The old W4 used allowances (0, 1, 2, etc.) where you could claim yourself, but the new form eliminated that system. The new W4 is designed to be more straightforward and accurate. There's no place to "claim yourself" anymore. Instead, your standard deduction is automatically built into the withholding calculations. If you're head of household with one dependent child under 17, you would just put "1" in Step 3 for your son and the appropriate credit amount.

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Eva St. Cyr

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Kaitlyn Otto

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Does it work for people who are married filing jointly too? My husband and I always struggle with this because he has variable income as a contractor and I have a steady teaching job. We always end up owing money which drives me crazy!

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Eva St. Cyr

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Axel Far

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I need to apologize for my skeptical comment earlier. After 4 failed attempts trying to reach the IRS on my own about a tax levy issue (kept getting disconnected after 1+ hour holds), I broke down and tried Claimyr. Within 40 minutes I was talking to an actual IRS representative who helped resolve my issue! The rep explained how the W4 dependent question works now too - only claim actual qualifying dependents on line 3 (children under 17 for the child tax credit). For the original poster: definitely just put "1" for your son on Step 3. The agent confirmed that claiming yourself isn't a thing on the new W4 forms. If you want a bigger refund, you'd use line 4(c) to request additional withholding.

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Ellie Kim

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Make sure you also consider the Head of Household filing status in Step 1(c) of your W4! This affects your standard deduction and tax brackets, which impacts your overall withholding throughout the year. With your 15-year-old son, you definitely qualify for Head of Household since he lives with you more than half the year and you provide more than half his support. This filing status gives you a higher standard deduction than filing as Single.

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Jace Caspullo

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So would I put "Head of Household" on the W4 and then just "1" for my son on Step 3? Does the Head of Household selection automatically adjust things for me?

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Ellie Kim

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Yes, you would check "Head of Household" in Step 1(c) and then put "1" for your son in Step 3. The Head of Household selection automatically adjusts your withholding calculations to account for the higher standard deduction and more favorable tax brackets that come with that filing status. This combination (HOH status + claiming your qualifying child) should help ensure your withholding is more accurate. If you want a slightly larger refund, you can add a small additional amount in Step 4(c) - maybe $25-50 per paycheck depending on your comfort level.

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Fiona Sand

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Does anyone know if the child tax credit is still $2,000 per child for 2024? I heard it might have changed but I can't find clear information.

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It's still $2,000 per qualifying child for 2024 (for 2025 filing season). Congress didn't extend the temporary increase that was in place during 2021. Children must be under 17 at the end of the year to qualify for the full credit.

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