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My small manufacturing business legitimately qualified for ERC in 2020 Q2 and Q3 due to government shutdown orders affecting our supply chain. We worked with our regular CPA firm who did a thorough analysis before filing. Received about $148,000 after 7 months of waiting. Then last year, one of those ERC specialty firms cold-called and insisted we qualified for an additional $235,000 for other quarters. They used really questionable logic about how "social distancing affected efficiency" and other stretches. I declined, and now I'm hearing about massive audits happening. So glad I didn't take the bait.
Do you know if the IRS is actively auditing claims right now? My brother used one of those ERC specialty firms and got almost $400k, but I'm worried he's going to end up owing it all back plus penalties.
Yes, the IRS announced earlier this year that they're significantly increasing audit activity specifically targeting ERC claims. They've actually paused processing new claims while they develop better fraud detection systems and have added staff specifically for ERC audits. If your brother used an ERC mill that made questionable eligibility determinations, he should seriously consider talking to a qualified tax professional immediately - not the firm that filed the claim. The IRS has stated they're focusing on claims that show "common indicators of non-compliance," and those $400k claims from businesses that didn't experience clear revenue drops or government shutdowns are prime targets.
We're a small nonprofit that worked with an ERC firm last year. They charged us 25% of the credit amount (about $80k total) and promised we qualified. We got the money but I'm now terrified after hearing about all the audits. The firm we used has since shut down their website and their phone is disconnected. Anyone else in a similar situation? Should we be proactively contacting the IRS?
This is unfortunately a common situation. Many of these ERC mills collected their fees and have now disappeared, leaving clients exposed to potential audit risk. As a tax professional, I would recommend: 1) Gather all documentation about how the firm determined you qualified. Did they provide a detailed eligibility analysis? 2) Consult with a reputable tax professional (CPA or tax attorney) who can review your specific situation and documentation. 3) If the determination was clearly improper, you might want to consider a voluntary disclosure to the IRS, though the formal program has ended. The IRS is most concerned with willful fraud. If you relied on what you believed was professional advice in good faith, that's a factor the IRS will consider, though it doesn't eliminate repayment obligation if you truly didn't qualify.
Has anyone noticed that TurboTax and other tax software sometimes handle the education credit phaseouts differently than the paper forms? I think that might explain why you're seeing different results. When I was in a similar situation last year with partial Lifetime Learning Credit eligibility, I found that line 6 on the worksheet wasn't matching what TurboTax calculated. It turned out that the software was applying the phaseout calculation at a different point in the process.
That makes sense! I noticed something similar with H&R Block software. Do you think it's safer to go with what the IRS forms calculate or what the tax software says?
In my experience, I've found that tax software like TurboTax is generally correct because it's applying all the rules comprehensively. The paper worksheets sometimes require you to go back and forth between multiple forms in a specific order, which is easy to mess up when doing it manually. If there's a significant difference though, I'd recommend double-checking your entries in the software to make sure everything is correct. Tax software can only be as accurate as the information you provide. Most major tax software is regularly updated to comply with current tax laws, so it's usually reliable if you've entered everything correctly.
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that the Lifetime Learning Credit has different qualified expense rules compared to the American Opportunity Credit. With the LLC, you can claim expenses for courses to acquire or improve job skills, not just degree programs. Did you include all eligible expenses? For 2025, you can claim 20% of up to $10,000 in qualified expenses (maximum $2,000 credit).
Personally I'd split it three ways: 1) $2000 to credit card debt 2) $1000 for emergency fund 3) $200 for something nice for yourself The debt is obviously hurting you with interest, but having NO emergency fund is dangerous too. And treating yourself a little prevents feeling deprived which can lead to bigger splurges later. Just my 2 cents!
Thanks for this breakdown! Do you think it makes more sense to put the emergency fund in a regular savings account or one of those high-yield savings accounts? And any suggestions for a reasonable "treat" that won't make me feel guilty?
Definitely go with a high-yield savings account for your emergency fund! Regular savings accounts are paying almost nothing (like 0.01%) while high-yield accounts are offering around 4-5% right now. That's a huge difference and it's just as easy to set up. Most online banks have no minimum balance requirements for these accounts too. For a reasonable treat that won't trigger guilt, look for something that improves your daily life rather than a one-time splurge. Maybe upgrading something you use daily like a good coffee maker if you're a coffee drinker, better headphones if you listen to music a lot, or even a meal prep service for a month to save you time and reduce food waste. These kinds of purchases can actually save money long-term while still feeling like a nice reward.
Don't forget that getting a big refund means you basically gave the government an interest-free loan all year. You might want to adjust your withholding on your W-4 so you get more in each paycheck instead of a big refund next year. That way YOU get to use your money throughout the year!
This is actually really good advice! I adjusted my withholding last year and now instead of getting a $2400 refund, I get about $200 more in my monthly paychecks. It's helped me keep up with bills way better instead of struggling all year then getting one big check.
You might just need to enter your prior year Roth IRA basis somewhere in the software. In H&R Block, go to the "Retirement and Investments" section, then "IRA, 401(k), or Other Retirement Plans" and look for a question about "prior Roth contributions" or "Roth IRA basis." Enter the total amount you've contributed to your Roth IRA in all previous years combined (not including 2024 contributions).
Where exactly in H&R Block do you find this? I'm looking at that section right now and I don't see anything specific about "prior Roth contributions." Is it hidden in some submenu?
It's a bit buried in the interface. After you get to the "IRA, 401(k), or Other Retirement Plans" section, you need to click on the specific Roth IRA contribution entry. Then there should be an "Advanced" or "Additional Information" button or link. Click that and you'll see additional fields, including one for your previous years' contributions or basis amount. If you're using the desktop version rather than the online version, the navigation might be slightly different, but the concept is the same - look for an advanced or additional info section related to your Roth IRA entries.
Something similar happened to me - the warning is likely just telling you that you should know your basis for future reference. For most people with Roth IRAs who haven't made withdrawals, it doesn't actually affect your tax return. H&R Block is just being extra cautious.
I've been using TaxAct for years and have never seen any warning about Roth IRA basis. I wonder if this is just an H&R Block thing or if I've been missing something important all along?
QuantumQuasar
Has anyone received a letter from the IRS about their stimulus payment but still not received the actual money? I got Notice 1444-D saying I was getting $1400 two weeks ago but nothing has shown up in my bank account or mailbox. Starting to worry it got lost or stolen.
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Zainab Omar
ā¢Yeah this happened to me too! I got the letter almost 3 weeks ago but still no payment. I ended up checking the Get My Payment tool and it showed my payment was scheduled for direct deposit on 3/19 but my bank has no record of it. Called my bank and they suggested I contact the IRS because they have no pending deposits for me.
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QuantumQuasar
ā¢Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone! I checked the Get My Payment tool again today and now it's showing they mailed a check on 3/21 even though I have direct deposit set up for my tax refunds. So weird and frustrating! I guess I'll just keep checking my mail. Hopefully it shows up soon - really counting on that money right now.
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Connor Gallagher
Does anyone know if we'll need to report these stimulus payments on our 2025 tax returns? I remember last time they made us confirm how much we received. I want to make sure I'm tracking everything correctly.
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Yara Sayegh
ā¢Economic Impact Payments are technically advance payments of a tax credit, but they aren't taxable income. You don't have to report them as income on your tax return. You will likely need to reconcile the amount on your 2025 tax return, especially if you were underpaid based on your circumstances. For example, if you had a child in 2025 that wasn't accounted for in your stimulus payment.
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