FBAR and 8938 filing confusion - Did my accountant make a mistake with my foreign accounts reporting?
I've got a situation with my foreign account reporting that's causing me some anxiety. My wife and I are US residents and we always file our taxes jointly. I maintain some accounts in my home country that total about $53,000. My tax preparer recently filed our 2023 tax return, and at the same time, he submitted 3 years of late FBAR forms for me. The thing is, he also included Form 8938 with the same account information he put on the FBAR (account numbers, balances, etc). From what I've researched, since we're married filing jointly and living in the US, the Form 8938 filing threshold is $100,000 for foreign assets on the last day of the year or $150,000 at any time during the year. Since my foreign accounts are way below those thresholds, I don't think Form 8938 was actually required. I'm really worried - is filing an unnecessary Form 8938 considered a serious mistake? Could this trigger issues with the IRS down the road? I'm already nervous about the late FBAR filings, and now this has me even more concerned. Thanks for any insight you can provide!
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Lydia Bailey
You're right to be checking this, but I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. Filing Form 8938 when it wasn't technically required isn't likely to cause problems with the IRS. If anything, you've provided more information than necessary, which is generally better than providing too little. The critical form in your situation was the FBAR (FinCEN Form 114), which you needed to file since you exceeded the $10,000 threshold. Even though they were late, filing them voluntarily before any contact from the government usually avoids penalties. For the Form 8938 situation, the threshold for married filing jointly while living in the US is indeed $100,000 on the last day of the year or $150,000 at any time during the year. Since your accounts total around $53,000, you're right that it wasn't technically required.
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Marcus Patterson
•Thanks for your reassurance. So there's no chance the IRS will think I'm trying to hide something else by "voluntarily" filing a form that wasn't required? It seems counterintuitive that giving more information could be seen as suspicious.
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Lydia Bailey
•No, providing extra information on a form you weren't required to file won't make the IRS suspicious. It's actually quite common for taxpayers or preparers to file forms that aren't strictly necessary out of an abundance of caution. The IRS is far more concerned about people who don't file required forms or who underreport income. Your accountant likely filed Form 8938 to be extra cautious, especially after the late FBAR filings. The information on both forms should match, so you've created a consistent record of your foreign accounts, which is a good thing.
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Mateo Warren
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Sofia Price
•How does this taxr.ai thing work? I've got accounts in three different countries and I'm constantly confused about what needs to be reported where. Does it just analyze your forms or does it also help with figuring out what you need to file in the first place?
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Alice Coleman
•I'm skeptical about these online services. How accurate was their analysis? It's one thing to say "don't worry about it" but if the IRS comes calling later, will they help with that situation? Also, did your accountant charge you extra for filing that unnecessary form?
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Mateo Warren
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Sofia Price
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Owen Jenkins
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Lilah Brooks
•How does this even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Are they somehow bypassing the regular phone queues?
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Alice Coleman
•I'm calling BS on this. Nobody gets through to the IRS in 15 minutes. I've spent literally days of my life on hold with them. If this actually worked, everyone would be using it and the IRS would shut it down immediately.
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Owen Jenkins
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Alice Coleman
I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After dismissing it as impossible, I decided to try it as a last resort when I needed to talk to someone about my own FBAR situation. I was connected to an IRS representative in about 20 minutes (not quite 15, but still amazing). The agent confirmed that filing Form 8938 when not required isn't an issue at all - they said they see it regularly and it doesn't trigger any red flags. They also explained that my voluntary disclosure of late FBARs was properly recorded in their system. What shocked me most is that the agent actually took time to explain things clearly without rushing me off the phone. I guess they're more helpful when they haven't been listening to hold music for 2 hours before talking to you!
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Jackson Carter
I think everyone is missing an important point here. The fact that your accountant filed late FBARs for 3 years is more concerning than the Form 8938 issue. FBARs have a separate penalty structure from regular tax forms, and the penalties can be quite severe (up to $10,000 per violation for non-willful violations). Did your accountant explain why they filed these late? Were you aware you needed to file FBARs for these previous years? If you genuinely didn't know, you might qualify for the IRS's streamlined filing procedures which can help avoid penalties.
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Marcus Patterson
•I honestly wasn't aware of the FBAR requirement until my new accountant pointed it out this year. I've had these accounts for years but the amounts fluctuated - they were only consistently over $10k for the past 3-4 years. My previous tax preparer never mentioned anything about foreign account reporting. Does the fact that we voluntarily filed the late FBARs before any IRS contact help our situation? And should I be concerned that my accountant didn't use the streamlined procedures you mentioned?
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Jackson Carter
•Filing voluntarily before any IRS contact definitely helps your situation. The IRS is generally much more lenient with taxpayers who come forward on their own to correct past filing errors. As for the streamlined procedures, it depends on your specific circumstances. The streamlined foreign offshore procedures are for U.S. taxpayers residing outside the U.S., while the streamlined domestic offshore procedures are for those residing in the U.S. Both require you to certify that your failure to file was non-willful. Your accountant may have determined that simply filing the late FBARs was sufficient in your case, especially if you didn't have any unreported income from these accounts. If all income was properly reported on your tax returns and you only missed the FBAR filing, many tax professionals consider that a lower-risk situation.
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Kolton Murphy
My husband and I were in a similar situation but with accounts in Europe totaling about €60k. We filed both FBAR and 8938 for years because our accountant said it was "better safe than sorry." This year we switched accountants and they told us we never needed the 8938! We asked about amending previous returns to remove the unnecessary forms but were advised it wasn't worth the effort since there's no penalty for over-reporting. Apparently the IRS doesn't issue refunds for the extra accounting fees we paid all those years 😂
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Evelyn Rivera
•Did your new accountant charge less since they didn't have to file the 8938? I'm curious because I'm paying my accountant about $400 extra for "international reporting" and now I'm wondering if I actually need all the forms they're filing.
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Avery Flores
•Yes, our new accountant charges about $150 less per year since they don't prepare the unnecessary Form 8938. They explained that the FBAR filing is actually free (it's filed directly with FinCEN), so we were essentially paying extra for a form we didn't need. I'd suggest asking your accountant to break down exactly what forms they're filing for your "international reporting" fee. If your foreign assets are under the thresholds, you might only need the FBAR, which shouldn't add much to your tax prep costs since it's a relatively simple form.
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Luca Ricci
Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like you're in good shape! I went through something very similar last year - had about $65k in foreign accounts and my accountant filed both FBAR and Form 8938 even though I was below the 8938 threshold. I was worried about the same things you mentioned, but after reading through IRS publications and speaking with a tax attorney, I learned that over-reporting foreign assets is actually quite common and not problematic at all. The IRS sees it frequently, especially from cautious preparers who want to ensure full compliance. The key thing is that your information is consistent across both forms, which creates a clean paper trail. Your voluntary late FBAR filings before any IRS contact also puts you in the best possible position penalty-wise. One thing I'd suggest is asking your accountant for next year - now that you understand the thresholds better, you can discuss whether Form 8938 is truly necessary going forward. This could save you some money on preparation fees while still maintaining full compliance with the FBAR requirements.
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Arjun Patel
•This is really helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! I'm curious - when you spoke with the tax attorney, did they mention anything about how long the IRS typically takes to process late FBAR filings? I'm wondering if there's a timeframe after which I can stop worrying about potential penalties. Also, you mentioned asking my accountant about dropping Form 8938 for next year - should I be concerned that this might look inconsistent to the IRS if I suddenly stop filing a form I've been including? Or do they not really track that kind of pattern?
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