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Something else to consider - check if you qualify for the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service. They're designed to help when normal IRS channels aren't working. If your situation is causing financial hardship (like you're waiting on a significant refund you need for living expenses), they might be able to help speed things up. The catch is that they're also overwhelmed with cases, but they can sometimes cut through the bureaucracy faster than waiting for the normal process. You can find your local office here: https://www.taxpayeradvocate.irs.gov/contact-us/
I tried the Taxpayer Advocate last year and they told me they couldn't help with identity verification cases unless there was a genuine financial hardship. Has this policy changed recently?
The policy hasn't officially changed, but in practice, it varies by office and how you present your case. Identity verification cases can qualify if you can demonstrate actual financial hardship (like facing eviction, utility shutoff, inability to pay for medications, etc.) caused by not receiving your refund. What's also changed is that some Taxpayer Advocate offices now have specialized staff just for handling identity verification backlogs. Worth calling your local office to check their current procedures, as they've been updating their approach to handle the massive backlog of these cases.
Has anyone tried going to their local IRS office in person for this? I'm wondering if bringing all my documents to an actual human might be faster than all this waiting around for forms and phone calls.
I did this last month and it worked perfectly! Called the appointment line (844-545-5640), got an appointment for the following week at my local office. Brought my ID, social security card, the IRS letter, and copies of my tax returns. The agent verified my identity on the spot and released my return for processing. Refund showed up 3 weeks later!
Don't forget about the Section 1231 implications here! If your DJ equipment is considered Section 1231 property (which it likely is since you've been depreciating it), the character of the gain matters. If you sell at a gain while still a business, it could potentially be treated as capital gain rather than ordinary income in some situations, which would be taxed at a lower rate.
What exactly qualifies as Section 1231 property? And does this still apply if the assets are fully depreciated?
Section 1231 property includes depreciable property used in a trade or business that's held for more than one year. So your DJ equipment would typically qualify if you've owned it for more than a year, which it sounds like you have. Even fully depreciated assets can still benefit from Section 1231 treatment. The fact that they're fully depreciated just means your basis is zero (or close to it), but the character of the gain can still benefit from potentially favorable capital gain treatment. However, be aware that depreciation recapture rules may cause some or all of the gain to be treated as ordinary income anyway, particularly with personal property like equipment.
I strongly recommend getting an accountant to help with this! I tried to DIY my business dissolution last year and completely messed it up. Ended up with an audit and paid wayyy more than I would have if I'd just hired someone from the start.
What tax software were you using? I'm using TurboTax and wondering if it handles this situation correctly or if I need something more specialized.
I was using H&R Block online, which I normally find pretty good for my basic tax needs. The problem wasn't really the software itself - it was that I didn't understand all the forms and steps needed for proper business dissolution. I missed filing Form 4797 for reporting the sale of business assets, and didn't properly document the conversion of business assets to personal use. No tax software can really help you make the strategic decisions about WHEN to sell assets versus when to convert them - it just processes the information you give it. That's why I suggest getting professional help for at least one session to map out your strategy before you start entering things into tax software.
I literally just went through this exact situation with my 2019 taxes! The most annoying part was figuring out my exact income because my employer from back then shut down during COVID and I couldn't get a replacement W2. If you're having any trouble with missing documents, you can request a wage and income transcript from the IRS that shows all the info that was reported for you.
If you do end up owing a lot with penalties, don't panic. I was in a similar situation and qualified for first-time penalty abatement since I had a good filing history before my missed year. Saved me over $1,200 in penalties! You have to specifically request it though - they don't offer it automatically.
Don't forget to file a police report too! This is important documentation that the IRS and credit bureaus will want to see. Even though local police probably won't investigate, having that report number helps establish that you're serious about this being fraud. Also check with your employer to make sure your W-2 information hasn't been compromised. Sometimes identity thieves will try to change your direct deposit information for your paychecks too.
Would filing a police report actually help speed up the resolution with the IRS? And should I file it in my local jurisdiction even if I have no idea where the identity theft occurred?
Filing a police report won't necessarily speed up the IRS process, but it creates an official record of the crime that strengthens your case with both the IRS and credit bureaus. It demonstrates you're taking legal steps to address the fraud, which can be important if there are any questions about the legitimacy of your claim. Yes, file the report with your local police department where you live. They understand that identity theft can happen anywhere, and they're required to take the report even if the actual crime might have occurred elsewhere. Ask for a copy of the report or at minimum the report number to include with your IRS documentation.
Has anyone dealt with this affecting their state tax returns too? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if I need to contact my state tax agency separately or if the IRS will handle that coordination?
You definitely need to contact your state tax agency separately! I made the mistake of thinking the IRS would handle everything, but states have their own identity theft processes. When I finally contacted my state revenue department, I found out someone had also filed a fraudulent state return in my name and I had to go through a whole separate verification process.
Thanks for letting me know! I'll contact my state tax department right away. Did you need to submit the same documentation to them that you did to the IRS, or do they have different requirements?
Miranda Singer
Don't forget about other potential deductions from your paycheck! HSA contributions, dental/vision insurance, life insurance, disability insurance, parking/transit benefits, etc. All of these can impact your take home pay. I'd recommend asking HR for a sample pay stub breakdown before you start so you can see exactly what deductions they'll take. Some companies also have employee assistance programs with financial advisors who can help with this exact question.
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Khalil Urso
ā¢That's a great idea about asking for a sample pay stub! I didn't even think of that. Are HSA contributions similar to 401k in how they affect taxes? And do you know if parking deductions are pre-tax or post-tax?
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Miranda Singer
ā¢HSA contributions are even better than 401k contributions tax-wise. They're pre-tax when made through payroll deduction, they grow tax-free, AND withdrawals are tax-free when used for qualified medical expenses. It's the only triple tax advantage account available. Definitely max it out if you have a High Deductible Health Plan. Parking and transit benefits are typically pre-tax up to the IRS limit (around $280/month for 2025), but it depends on whether your employer has set up a qualified transportation benefit program. Some smaller employers might just provide a taxable parking stipend instead. Definitely worth asking HR about the specifics of their program.
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Cass Green
Just a heads up that the online calculators can be wildly inaccurate sometimes. When I started my job last year, the calculators were off by almost $250 per paycheck because they didn't account for some MN-specific tax situations. The safest bet is to take your gross bi-weekly pay (65000/26 = $2500), then subtract: - Federal tax (roughly 12-15% effective) - State tax (about 6.8%) - FICA (7.65%) - Insurance premiums - 401k contributions Then add a little cushion for any surprises. Better to underestimate your take home than overestimate and end up short!
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Finley Garrett
ā¢This is good advice but your math is a bit off. 65000/26 is actually $2,500 (not $2,400). Also, federal tax will probably be lower than 15% effective rate on $65k, especially with 401k contributions reducing taxable income.
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