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Abigail Patel

Is EV Tax Credit for 2024 still being applied at point of sale?

I'm so confused about the EV tax credit situation for 2024, especially with all the Tesla Model Y drama happening now. From what I understand, Tesla can't apply the $7500 tax credit at point of sale yet because they're still waiting on guidance from the IRS. This is becoming a real problem for buyers with lower Annual Gross Income (AGI) who specifically want the point-of-sale credit. They understand that if they get the credit upfront, they won't have to pay it back even if their 2024 tax liability isn't enough to offset the full $7500 credit. But what happens if they don't get it at point-of-sale? Does it then convert to a traditional tax credit that you can only claim if you have enough tax liability? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Has anyone recently purchased a Tesla or other EV and gone through this process? How is the EV tax credit being handled right now with the delays in IRS guidance? I'm planning to buy within the next month and need to understand how this will affect my finances.

Daniel White

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The EV tax credit situation for 2024 can definitely be confusing! Let me help clarify: You're right that there are two ways to get the $7500 EV tax credit - either at point of sale as an upfront discount or as a tax credit when you file your return. The point-of-sale option is new for 2024 and requires dealers to receive specific guidance from the IRS before implementing it. For the point-of-sale option, the buyer transfers the credit to the dealer, who then reduces the purchase price by $7500. The dealer later gets reimbursed by the IRS. This option is beneficial for buyers with lower tax liability since, as you noted, you get the full benefit regardless of your tax situation. If you don't get the point-of-sale credit, then it works like a traditional tax credit - you'll claim it when filing your 2024 taxes, but you'll only benefit from the amount up to your tax liability. So if your tax liability is only $5000, you'd only get $5000 of the $7500 credit. One important note: qualified vehicles must meet specific battery and materials sourcing requirements for the full credit. Some vehicles only qualify for partial credits depending on their battery components.

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Nolan Carter

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Thanks for explaining this! Do you know if there's any timeline for when the IRS is expected to release this guidance? And also, if I buy now without the point-of-sale credit, can I somehow convert it later, or am I stuck with the traditional tax credit approach?

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Daniel White

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The IRS hasn't provided a specific timeline for when they'll release the final guidance for dealers. They published proposed regulations in April 2023, but manufacturers and dealers are still waiting for final implementation details. Unfortunately, once you purchase the vehicle, you can't retroactively change how you receive the credit. If you buy without the point-of-sale option, you'll need to claim it on your tax return. This is why many buyers with lower tax liability are choosing to wait until the point-of-sale option becomes available.

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Natalia Stone

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Tasia Synder

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Is this free to use? I'm about to pull the trigger on a Model Y but I'm worried about exactly what you mentioned - my tax liability might not be enough for the full credit.

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I'm skeptical about these calculator tools. How accurate can it really be about predicting your tax liability? Did you find it matched what you expected your tax situation to be?

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Natalia Stone

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Teresa Boyd

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Another important thing to remember about the 2024 EV tax credit is the income limits! I almost missed this in my research. For the 2024 tax year, you can't claim the credit if your modified AGI exceeds: - $300,000 for married filing jointly - $225,000 for head of household - $150,000 for all other filers Also, there are price caps on the vehicles themselves: - $80,000 for vans, SUVs, and pickup trucks - $55,000 for other vehicles Make sure your vehicle and income qualify before counting on the credit!

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Lourdes Fox

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Do these income limits apply to both the point-of-sale option and the tax return option? Or just one of them?

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Teresa Boyd

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The income limits apply to both methods of claiming the credit. Whether you take it at point-of-sale or on your tax return, you still need to meet those AGI requirements. The tricky part is that at point-of-sale, you're making an attestation about your expected income for the year. If you end up exceeding the income limits, you might have to pay back the credit when you file your taxes. This is another reason why understanding your tax situation is so important before making the decision.

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Bruno Simmons

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Has anyone heard if leasing might be a better option right now while we wait for the point-of-sale option? I heard that when you lease, the leasing company gets the tax credit and they often pass the savings to you through reduced lease payments. Might be a workaround for those of us with lower tax liability who don't want to wait?

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Yes! This is actually what I did with my Hyundai IONIQ 5. Because I was leasing, the leasing company (the actual purchaser) claimed the credit and reduced my monthly payments by about $210. This effectively gave me the benefit of the full $7500 spread across my 36-month lease. The nice thing about leasing is that your tax liability doesn't matter at all since you're not the one claiming the credit. The leasing company has plenty of tax liability to use the full credit. Just make sure to ask specifically how much of the tax credit is being passed on to you in the lease - some companies are more generous than others.

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Alfredo Lugo

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This is such a timely discussion! I'm actually in the exact same boat as the original poster - looking to buy a Tesla Model Y in the next few weeks and trying to figure out the best approach. From everything I've read and the great advice shared here, it seems like the key decision really comes down to your tax liability situation. If you're confident you'll have at least $7500 in tax liability for 2024, then buying now and claiming it on your tax return might work fine. But if you're like me with a lower income or variable tax situation, waiting for the point-of-sale option could save thousands. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone seen any recent updates from Tesla specifically about when they expect to implement the point-of-sale option? I know they've been pretty vocal about wanting to offer it, but I haven't seen any timeline from them directly. Also, the leasing option that @Bruno Simmons and @Aileen Rodriguez mentioned is really intriguing. I hadn't considered that as a way to get the full benefit regardless of tax liability. Does anyone know if Tesla's lease deals are competitive when factoring in the tax credit pass-through? Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding a really confusing situation!

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Zara Malik

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Great summary of the situation! I'm actually a tax preparer who's been dealing with a lot of these EV credit questions lately. From what I've seen with my clients, the tax liability issue is really the biggest factor in this decision. Regarding Tesla's timeline - they haven't given any specific dates publicly, but based on conversations with other dealers I work with, most expect the IRS guidance to be finalized sometime in the next 2-3 months. Tesla has been pretty aggressive about wanting to implement it quickly once they get the green light. For the leasing route, Tesla's lease deals have actually become more competitive recently, especially when you factor in the tax credit pass-through. I had a client who compared buying vs leasing a Model Y and found the lease was only about $50/month more expensive over 3 years when accounting for the full tax credit benefit through leasing vs. his limited tax liability if purchasing. One thing to keep in mind - if you do decide to wait for point-of-sale, make sure you're monitoring any changes to the battery component requirements. The rules around which vehicles qualify can shift, so a car that qualifies today might not qualify later.

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