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Cedric Chung

Need help! Discovered undisclosed foreign accounts - FBAR/Form 8938 filing questions

I'm starting to panic a bit here. I've been living in the US for several years as a resident alien (green card holder) and have been filing my taxes regularly, but I just discovered something that's got me worried. Apparently I have a foreign investment account that I completely forgot about. When I moved to the US for work about 5 years ago, I left behind a government savings account in my home country (Singapore) that my grandparents had set up for me. I honestly forgot it existed until my mother called recently to tell me it had accumulated around $19,000 USD. From what I understand after frantically researching, this seems to be below the Form 8938 threshold ($50,000) but I definitely should have been filing FBARs all this time. This account earns about $1,200 in interest annually and is tax-exempt in Singapore, but I know the US still taxes worldwide income. What's my best approach here? Can I just file the FBAR for this year going forward or am I going to face serious penalties for the previous missed years? The account isn't huge but definitely above the FBAR reporting requirement. Is the IRS likely to come after me for this honest mistake? Also, how exactly do I report the foreign interest income on my tax return? Is there a specific form beyond the FBAR? I've been using FreeTaxUSA for my returns if that helps with specific guidance. I'm really stressed about this and would appreciate any advice!

Your situation isn't uncommon, and there's a path forward that shouldn't be too painful. First, take a deep breath - the IRS has programs specifically designed for people in your situation who made honest mistakes. For the FBAR (FinCEN Form 114), you should file not just for this year but also for the previous years you missed. The IRS has a procedure called "Delinquent FBAR Submission Procedures" for people who weren't aware of the filing requirement and haven't been contacted by the IRS yet. You can file the late FBARs electronically and include a brief statement explaining why you're filing late (simply that you weren't aware of the account or the requirement). As for the income, you'll need to report the interest on Schedule B of your tax return, checking "yes" to the foreign account question. You'll also need to include the interest as income on your tax return. In FreeTaxUSA, you can enter this as "Foreign Interest Income" and it should guide you through the process. Since the amount is relatively small and this appears to be an honest oversight, the chances of severe penalties are low, especially if you take the initiative to correct it now. The IRS tends to be more understanding when taxpayers voluntarily come forward before being contacted.

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Thanks for the reassurance. For the previous years' FBARs, how far back should I go? All 5 years I've been here? And do I need to amend my previous tax returns too for the unreported interest income?

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Generally, you should file the last 6 years of delinquent FBARs - that's what the IRS procedure recommends. So if you've been here 5 years, you would file for all those years. For amending tax returns, technically yes, you should amend any returns where you didn't report the interest income. However, the IRS generally only allows amendments going back 3 years. In FreeTaxUSA, you can create amended returns (Form 1040-X) for those years and report the additional income. Be aware that you might owe some additional tax plus interest, but given the amounts involved, it shouldn't be too significant.

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Don't panic! I went through this exact situation with a forgotten Korean account. For the foreign interest income reporting, in FreeTaxUSA you need to go to the Income section, then Interest Income, then select "Foreign Interest Income" which will take you to a special section. It'll ask you for the country and amount. Make sure you convert the foreign currency amounts to USD using the yearly average exchange rate (you can find these on the IRS website). FreeTaxUSA actually handles all the forms automatically once you input this information.

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Do you know if we need to pay penalties on the back taxes owed from the unreported interest? Like if I've missed reporting maybe $3000 of interest income over 3 years, am I going to get hit with huge penalties when I amend?

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You'll owe the taxes plus interest on the late payment, but in my experience, the penalties weren't that bad for honest mistakes especially with relatively small amounts. The IRS charges interest that compounds daily on unpaid tax, which is currently around 7%. There's also a failure-to-pay penalty of 0.5% per month up to 25% of the unpaid tax. But if you show "reasonable cause" (which forgetting about an account that was set up for you could qualify), they may even waive some penalties. The most important thing is to fix it before they come to you - voluntary disclosure almost always results in much better treatment.

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Careful about people saying "just file this year and move on"!! I made this mistake and got hit with a $10,000 penalty for each year I missed filing the FBAR, even though my foreign account only had about $30k. The IRS is super serious about foreign account reporting.

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That sounds extreme. Did you go through the voluntary disclosure program or did they find you first? I thought penalties were usually waived if you file the late FBARs before they contact you.

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I'm calling BS on this. The $10,000 non-willful FBAR penalty is the MAXIMUM per violation, not the standard. And if you voluntarily disclose before being contacted, they almost never impose penalties for non-willful violations. Either there's more to your story or you're exaggerating.

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I'm a tax professional who's helped many clients through similar situations, and I want to emphasize that you're absolutely right to address this proactively. Here's what I recommend: **Immediate Steps:** 1. File delinquent FBARs for all years you've been required (likely all 5 years you've been in the US) using the IRS Delinquent FBAR Submission Procedures 2. Include a reasonable cause statement explaining you genuinely forgot about the account 3. Amend your tax returns for the last 3 years to report the unreported interest income **Good News:** - Your situation qualifies for non-willful treatment since this was an honest oversight - The relatively small amounts involved work in your favor - Voluntary disclosure before IRS contact typically results in minimal or no penalties **For the Singapore account specifically:** - You're correct that it's below the Form 8938 threshold - The interest income should be reported on Schedule B of your 1040 - Singapore's tax-exempt status doesn't matter for US tax purposes - you still owe US tax on the interest **FreeTaxUSA guidance:** - Go to Income → Interest Income → Add foreign interest - Enter the USD equivalent using IRS published exchange rates for each year - The software will automatically generate the necessary forms Don't let anxiety paralyze you - taking action now puts you in the best possible position with the IRS. Consider consulting a tax professional if the process feels overwhelming, but your situation is very manageable.

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for the professional perspective! One question: when you mention using IRS published exchange rates for each year, where exactly do I find those? I've been looking on the IRS website but it's a bit confusing to navigate. Also, for the reasonable cause statement with the delinquent FBAR filing, is there a specific format or length they expect, or can it just be a brief explanation?

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You can find the IRS yearly average exchange rates at irs.gov - search for "Yearly Average Currency Exchange Rates" or go directly to the international section. They publish tables with monthly and yearly averages for most major currencies including SGD (Singapore Dollar). For the reasonable cause statement, keep it brief and factual - usually 1-2 paragraphs explaining that you genuinely forgot about the account after moving to the US, that it was established by family members, and that you're now voluntarily filing to correct the oversight once you discovered it. The IRS prefers straightforward explanations over lengthy justifications. The key is showing it was non-willful (honest mistake) rather than intentional tax avoidance. Your situation - a forgotten family-established account that you're proactively disclosing - fits perfectly into the reasonable cause category.

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